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Berean Girl
January 2nd, 2008, 12:57 PM
There was a church I used to attend right before I got saved and afterwards that slowly but surely I was getting discernment that they were into all this madness and more. Case in point, one day they had a 24 fast/prayer or 12-hour, cant remember, but it was according to the house of prayer model. Well, for some reason, I didnt make it to the prayer time and on the way walking to the church, I ran into one of the sisters who practically took my head off because I wanted her to help me with my feelings and my struggles and guilt for not making this prayer stuff and my early walk. I found that to be a very weird experience, instead of her coming from supposed prayer in good spirits, she was beastly. I was not that savvy but even then I knew something definitely was not right.

Fast forward to after leaving that church, I now attend a Calvary Chapel affiliate and one of the younger sisters who used to attend my church but has since moved to Texas to pursue a "worship" program and a seminary there (I believe its one of the bad ones), before leaving wanted me to join her in this IHOP business and I told her that it was bad news. She seems to have gotten offended and she said that since I was struggling in my walk, I needed to pray and she didnt see any problems with it, even after the information I gave her. Since her moving, I have forwarded other things to her and you know what, I DO NOT EVEN HEAR FROM THIS GIRL ANYMORE..... before she left, we were sisters and friends, now there is no relationship..... darkness and light, thats what I can conclude from this and its very sad indeed. :tsk
vhowell
January 2nd, 2008, 07:38 PM
I just read an excellent book by a person who left the Prophetic movement after having spent years in it. It is a wonderful expose of the weird practices that go on during some of these services. It sounds simialr to some of the posts in this thread. Gold dust, gold teeth, strange jerkings, uncontrollable laughter are all mentioned in this book.

The book is also highly critical of the "seeker friendly" type of churches, and tries to explain why revival tarries in America ( we are too into materialism and prosperity nonsense).

The book is by Andrew Strom . Here's the Amazon link:
www.amazon.com/dp/0979907306/
heybales219
January 2nd, 2008, 07:47 PM
I need to do more research on contemplative prayer (on my own, please don't provide links) because I don't see anything wrong with what Sing post from IHOP's site in post #28.

Yes, I know we're to judge everything according to the Bible. I'll refrain from saying anything in this thread b/c I'm sure what I want to say will earn me an infraction.
Sing4Him
January 2nd, 2008, 07:58 PM
Heybales.. what was posted in #28 was God's word, Biblical Truth versus the Lies of a "different Spirituality"

What was shown and should be clear to the professing believer is that IHOP, summons a different spirit.
How is this done? By the emptying of the mind in order to be filled by ???????

This is a prayer practice that is NOT of the Lord Jesus nor in His word.

The scriptures were posted plainly for you to see.

Now, there are plenty of articles on this entire forum that spell out in simple terms the satanic deception of Spiritual Disciplines and Formation.

Have you read this posts and articles?

Everything here has been backed up by scripture.
heybales219
January 2nd, 2008, 08:18 PM
Gotcha, thanks.
Because_He_Lives!
January 3rd, 2008, 06:53 AM
Heybales, go to lighthousetrails site. It is all about the dangers of comptemplative spirituality. Its a very extensive site with plent of information.


http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/index.html
A Berean
January 3rd, 2008, 07:13 AM
Heybales.. what was posted in #28 was God's word, Biblical Truth versus the Lies of a "different Spirituality"

What was shown and should be clear to the professing believer is that IHOP, summons a different spirit.
How is this done? By the emptying of the mind in order to be filled by ???????

This is a prayer practice that is NOT of the Lord Jesus nor in His word.

The scriptures were posted plainly for you to see.

Now, there are plenty of articles on this entire forum that spell out in simple terms the satanic deception of Spiritual Disciplines and Formation.

Have you read this posts and articles?

Everything here has been backed up by scripture.

If I were allowed only one sentence in which to warn other Christians about the terrible dangers of Contemplative Spirituality, it would be this:

You are placing yourself under the Doctrines of Demons, and if you stay there, you will end up being deceived and under demonic influence:wha !!!