The other new world order

[Lexie]

Why do Texe Marrs and others join in with the lawless? The people they unite to, are are just as bad, as the Masons, they promote the new age I AM contemplative christ consciousness religion. They despise Christians, Jew's, Governments. They are uniting under the banner of the dominionist unity and promoting false peace. They do not understand the threat of Afghanistan and Pakistan being overtaken. Does anyone know how many Masons really exist at this time?

David Lynch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY97P07PMho&mode=related&search=




David Icke a man who claims the new age christ consciousness


David Icke:
I am a Son of God, if you can open your mind enough to perceive us all as a droplet in the same infinite ocean of consciousness that some call 'God'. Indeed, open your mind some more (sorry about the headache, Fletch) and you will see that we are not only a droplet, we are the ocean also. Thus,*continuing the analogy, we are both the 'son' and the 'father'. Yep, even you, mate
http://www.rinf.com/articles/david-icke-interview.html




Jordan Maxwell satanist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sVtgOf1pUY&mode=related&search=


Michael Tsarion is another one of the gang, this is his view of God, he despises Jesus, and would like to get rid of Christians.

It is, in this author’s estimation, impossible for us to ever triumph over the malign (and originally alien) "Establishment" which controls humankind, without a thorough working knowledge of the way in which they operate and achieve their successes. If we are to defeat these merciless and tyrannical hierarchs we must, like detectives, be thoroughly conversant with their modus operendi and, like hounds on a trail, we must be familiar with their scent. Our adversary is both a mutilator and a scavenger. It is a virus within the ailing body politic. It is literally a cunning alien force which has infected us with its own nature. It is within us as much as it is out there in our world. We are its prey and also its carriers. We are also its enemy by default. It hates us and, therefore, we are either of its kind and under its power, or we are its sworn opponents.

http://www.taroscopes.com/highwindowsarticles/shiva-holyspirit-ageofaquarius.html

[Lexie]

Read through this progressive site, they claim the bible is corrupt, deny the trinty, promote David Icke, ect.

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Is “The Secret” Anti-Christian?



Not in this writers opinion. But one could certainly get that impression by doing a Google search for all of the published “Christian” responses to this very popular movie.

Why the 100% Christian outrage? Is it jealousy that the “Christian” world has, in all of it’s existence, failed to produce a movie that is as effective, motivating and well produced as “The Secret”? Is it a collective insecurity in the Christian belief system?

Utilizing the Bible as our ultimate source of beliefs, is there anything in the Bible that says that we should not have an abundant life, in every aspect of life? No. Does the Bible provide every last bit of information we need to exist in life and have an abundant life? No. Does God expect us to grow in grace and knowledge in every aspect of life? Yes. Do Christians as a whole do that? No. Yet, Christians don’t hesitate to throw stones at those who do.

If the Bible is our standard and the ideas put forth in “The Secret” are so un-biblical, let’s take a look at what these same Christians claim to be biblical truth. First, we have the ever popular “Trinity” doctrine. It’s not mentioned in the Bible by name – nor in concept. Yet, most Christian churches buy right into it, thereby obscuring the understanding of their final destination. The same can also be said for the false, non-biblical doctrine of the "Immortality of the Soul" (aka, Heaven and Hell). It just isn't there.

My favorite Christian hypocrisy, however, is that of helping others (a directive from Jesus Himself – Matt 25:31-40). Ignored by 99% of all Christians, this obvious act of love is ironically promoted by Bob Proctor (one of the main speakers in "The Secret"). “By improving yourself, you are now in a position to help others”, he says in essence - and says it quite frequently in his own seminars. What a concept!

I could go on and on, but just check the listing of our Statement of Beliefs. Most “Christians” would probably attack these beliefs just as vehemently as they do the ideals espoused by authors of “The Secret”. And our listed beliefs are right out of the Bible and are well documented!

Do our thoughts and feelings attract the good or bad in life, as promoted in the movie? You bet they do. How do I know that? Just look at the miracles performed daily utilizing EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique). The amazing success of this simple technique in curing emotional and physical problems is all the proof that anyone needs to see that there is a relationship between what we think and feel and our own physical and mental well being. “The Secret” is just an extension of that paradigm.

In the final analysis, one has to ask, is the movie, “The Secret”, of God – or the Devil? I see no evidence that anything in it or anyone associated with it is evil (though I may not necessarily agree with every last ideal promoted). A mature Christian should be grounded enough in their biblical knowledge and belief system so that when new information comes along, no matter what the source, no matter whether the proponents of it claim to be “Christian” or not, one simply has to follow the biblical directive – and "sift the chaff from the wheat". And that practice should be no secret!

http://ernestlmartin.com/#secret

EFT
http://www.selfgrowth.com/experts/gary_craig.html

Gary, an avid student of A Course in Miracles, is not a psychologist nor is he a licensed therapist. He is an engineering graduate of Stanford University and an ordained minister with the Universal Church of God in Southern California, which is non-denominational and embraces all religions. Although Gary approaches EFT from a distinctly spiritual perspective, people using it are not asked to follow any specific spiritual teaching.

[Lexie]

The statement of faith from the site above talks about their family of god. I have a real problem with this teaching, I finally stopped listening to a certain pentecostal preacher, when I heard him say, the same things, these people are saying, which is, we are Gods. This god, is the god, of the New age, Matthew Fox, Cosmic christ, and Barbara Marx Hubbard, who say she is co-creator god

Statement of faith

We believe in:


The validity of the Bible


Universal Reconciliation


The Family of God

One should first de-personalize any concept that we have had that defines "God." Now hold on, I am fully aware that the Bible looks upon the Father and Christ Jesus as distinct personalities and that the very terms "Father" and "Brother" (Christ is our Elder Brother) certainly denote the fact that they are both personalities. Yet in spite of this fact, we should at first abandon this concept of defining "God" as a personality in order to arrive at the full meaning of the Godhead as shown within the pages of the Holy Scriptures. We should actually begin our search by asking "What is God?"

"Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be ONE as we are [ONE]" (John 17:11). And since we and Christ are ONE with the Father, then that word "ONE" includes all of us as being members of the divine Family. So, the word "ONE" in the Shema declaration, can mean a vast multitude of individuals who comprise the divine Family. Even Jesus said of humans: "Ye are gods" (John 10:34,3 5).



Biblical End-Time Prophecy


The Second Coming of Christ


The establishment of the Kingdom of God on this earth


Education on all subjects


We do not believe in:
The doctrine of the Trinity
The Immortality of the Soul (heaven and hell)
Traditional Christian Holy Days and Holidays
Tithing
Political activism
Participation in the military

http://askelm.com/doctrine/d940201.htm

[Jesse]

Thanks for the info Lexi. The You Tube video about David Lynch is what caught my eye here. I saw his movie called "Lost Highway" before I was born again, and it was probably the strangest movie that I have ever seen in my life.:shocked

[Lexie]

Thanks for the info Lexi. The You Tube video about David Lynch is what caught my eye here. I saw his movie called "Lost Highway" before I was born again, and it was probably the strangest movie that I have ever seen in my life.:shocked

Hey Jesse,

I had never of David Lynch, until recently, looked up his movie reviews, I agree with you :fear

Have you watched or read, any of James Tabor's works? He is a biblical scholar, located at the site above. Professor Bart Ehrman, gave him a thumbs up, on his book, "The Jesus dynasty", which was made into a documentary. He was also associated with the documentary called "The Jesus Family Tomb" and other works.

It seems alot of people, want to tell us, we are god's, these days. The Masons, are not alone, in thier concepts of God, these other groups, which Christians are promoting as experts, have almost the same theories. That's why I called this post "the other new world order"

I enjoyed the last article you wrote :thumb

[GAB]

Who are these people and why are they significant?

[Lexie]

Who are these people and why are they significant?


Hi Gab,

Here are just a few of the streams coming from emergent religion. Some are Gnostic, new age, celtic mystic druids, Gaia green mother god worshippers, satanists, antizionist's.

Some are promoted inside the church, as experts on the new world order, Jew's, Masons, the church, ect...* Jordan Maxwell is from the "I AM" religion. Imo The only Alien, they will take up arms to try and fight, in resistance, is Jesus himself.

Texe Marrs is obsessed with Jew's, you can see how people will turn on the Jew's, again, with glee, as Marrs does in the Video..: He said the Jews, were not the Chosen People, to a Palestinian advocate, Hesham Tillawi. Hesham also had Michael Tsarion, on his show, Hesham is a friend of Cindy Sheehan, the antizionist.


Marrs
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8862697147505194699

Dr Hesham Tillawi
http://www.davidduke.com/?p=431





Madam Blavatsky, co-creators theology, Gaia mother god, global brain, channels something called Abraham.

http://www.greatdreams.com/creation.htm


The New age gnostics say we have both human and alien DNA, not sin, but Alien blood. Same as serpent seed lie, imo Adam and Eve did not have sex with satan.
http://atlantisbook.com/atlantisbookpreface.html


I AM
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Links.html

I AM
http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/links.htm



ENTHEOGEN : Awakening the Divine Within
Ralph MetznerRalph Metzner has been exploring states of consciousness for more than fourty years. He earned his B.A. from Oxford University and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from Harvard in 1962. In 1964 he co-authored The Psychedelic Experience with Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert. He served as the academic dean of the California Institute of Integral Studies from 1979-1988. He is now a psychotherapist and professor at CIIS, where he teaches courses on altered states of consciousness and green or eco-psychology. He is co-founder and president of the Green Earth Foundation, an educational organization devoted to the healing and harmonizing of the relations between humanity and the Earth.

the sun god
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-kvw1fYXs



Statement from the I AM Michael Tsarion's site
The angels and the prophets will come to you, and give you what is yours-
Jesus Christ -Gnostic Gospel of Thomas

Aleister Crowley

Fredrick Nietzsche

Madame Blavatsky



Jay Gary Barbara Marx Hubbard co creators/futurists
http://www.odysseyofthefuture.net/topic_1.htm

Damanhur is found on a meeting point of the Synchronic Lines, the energy rivers that encircle our planet and connect it to the Galaxy. Constructed inside a mountain, a convergence point of telluric and synchronic forces, the Temples of Humankind are a sophisticated instrument for contacting Higher Forces and galactic intelligences. These Forces share with us the great project of the reawakening of humanity on Earth and other worlds. The Temples are a planetary antenna through which, in concomitance with the great seasonal appointments – Equinoxes and Solstices – the ‘doorways’ of space and time are opened. At these moments messages can be received, from distant places, both inside and outside of the self.
An entire night dedicated to this form of contact with the support and guidance of specialist instructors


Astro projection
http://www.olamidamanhur.com/html/ArcMagazineDet.asp?IDArt=28

http://www.damanhur.org/temple/


Choosing the term Jesus is said to have used for himself, "Son of Man," not "Son of God," Harvey presents Jesus as an accomplished mystical seeker who saw into the nature of Divinity and achieved miraculous healing abilities and yogic-like powers. Most of all, though, he saw into the human heart. He saw that the proper basis of morality was not obedience to Law but love and compassion. He was a revolutionary who called for a total overthrow of the social and religious culture of his day. He championed the plight of women in the face of rigid patriarchy. He dismissed riches as a sign of divine election. He ridiculed the priests and religious authorities. He called for a utopian world born from love of neighbor and mystical vision of the Kingdom.


Beyond calling for a reunderstanding and reclaiming of the story of Jesus, Harvey also calls for a reappreciation of the image of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Rather than being just a pious example of maternal asexuality, Mary is the manifestation in Christian tradition of the Sacred Feminine. Surprisingly, it is through her that Harvey says sacred sex should be practiced.

http://www.whitecranejournal.com/wc01055.htm

Gaia global brain Andrew Harvey, Matthew Fox, Alex Grey, Damanhur, Burningman, others
https://www.wisdomuniversity.org/62002.html

[LisaJo]

Being raised a Mormon most of my young life, I can tell you, they are no different. Remember what Our Lord says concerning the apostate church.

"They hold on to a form of godliness but deny its power."

I also want to point out that most of these "religous" groups all believe that the answer is within yourself as you seek to be enlightened by the ones around you. Same old Trick, KNOWLEDGE! It's what Satan used in the Garden of Eden to convince Eve.

They turn to worshiping the creation, instead of the creater.

[Mitsy]

Didn't Satan offer this to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. He said you can be like God knowing good and evil.

GE 3:4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

This is the same tactic being used by Satan today. God help us see through his schemes to take us away from the Truth.

[wildkoala]

Hi Gab,

Here are just a few of the streams coming from emergent religion. Some are Gnostic, new age, celtic mystic druids, Gaia green mother god worshippers, satanists, antizionist's.

Some are promoted inside the church, as experts on the new world order, Jew's, Masons, the church, ect...* Jordan Maxwell is from the "I AM" religion. Imo The only Alien, they will take up arms to try and fight, in resistance, is Jesus himself.



Just for curiosity, has anybody ever come across the name Bill Schnoebelen in this context. The reason I'm asking is this:

I was watching a Christian DVD about the bene eloihim in Genesis and its significance in the end days, and at first he was talking about the two main interpretations held by scholars on the passage (eg the sons of God marrying the daughters of men, etc), and I thought Ok that's all right, but there were things later on that just rang alarm bells for me:

1. referring to angels (unfallen and fallen) as divine beings - now while they are beings dwelling with God in heaven, I don't think you can call anyone divine but God, even beings like angels. They are created beings and servants of the Almighty (well the fallen ones aren't, but you get my drift.....)

2. referring to them as partakers in the divine nature, and then referring to us as partakers in the divine nature. I don't know whether this was just a poor choice of wording, or a deliberate stand on the matter. While we are created in the image of God, etc (and I don't even pretend to know exactly in what sense), tweaking the wording to 'partakers in the divine nature' comes over to me as dangerously like the 'we are gods' heresy.

3. In the middle of the talk you find that he was an extremely high up druid and black magic practitioner before being 'saved'. The reason for the inverted commas there is that I'm aware that there are genuine ex-Satanists that have been delivered from that stuff, but I'm also aware that there are plenty deliberately infiltrating churches as pastors, preachers, experts, as mentioned in the above quote.

Actually, there were a lot of things that rang alarm bells, but these were big ones. And I got to thinking about how far you'd have to be involved in that stuff to get to the 90th degree (ie before 'salvation' he had got up beyond freemasonry to higher secret societies connected with it) and weighing up the likelihood that he really would be saved and in a deliverance ministry or whether I'm looking at a Satanist sent to deceive Christians by posing as one. Only God knows the heart, and he claimed to have repented of it all, but I was feeling very uneasy after about the first half an hour (the first 30 mins was just straightforward scriptural explanation), and that there was a heaviness about it. Part of me just wants to get that DVD away from me.

Now the reason I'm asking if anyone has heard of him in the above context is that I have not heard of his name before viewing that DVD, and wondering if anyone has come across this guy before. I do regularly visit 'Deception in the Church' and Apostasy.org these days, simply because I am finding it increasingly the case that I can't walk into a local Christian book store without finding heavily apostate material touted as Christian, and it's getting more and more clever and subtle as the years go on. It helps keep me aware of who's trying to say what. But he has never been listed and he's one who I haven't come across in any context. Any info, anyone?

PS when he was into black magic prior to salvation he claimed that a lot of the stuff he was doing with other practitioners was this opening of the doorways between dimensions stuff. And human DNA tweaking via occult magic, supposedly.