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OnceWasLost
August 13th, 2009, 10:09 AM
i agree,perhaps someone should.:thumb good idea.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/Once5150/scratch.gif
That might be fun. Problem is you would have to watch those dreadful NOOMAs to know how to mimic them. Well, I suppose every good idea has a price.
billiefan2000
August 13th, 2009, 10:10 AM
How Not To Believe In God By Zach Lind
Published August 13th, 2009 by Editor in Emergence Christianity, Emerging Church, False Teaching
CRN brings this post by Zach Lind to your attention as illustrative of how far off-track the emerging church is getting.
Lind is a friend of Rob Bell, whom he interviews below, and builds this review piece around a lengthy quote from New Age Buddhist Ken Wilbur.
Lind also quotes Peter Rollins who even responds in the comments section.
Essentially this is an ode to unbelief. In a nutshell, what these people like Lind, Bell and Rollins are doing, because they are mystics, is attacking the final authority of the Bible in order to condition people to trust their experience to reinterpret the text. In the end they are held captive to their own very wrong synthetic world-view through which they then filter the Bible.
This is what Lind is talking about as he says:
What is so promising about these cracks continuing to form and widen, is that a new posture is emerging within Christianity where doubt and ambiguity are to be wrestled with, cherished, even.
When one moves from mere belief to faith, the Biblical text has become not just a static, inerrant, literalist playground. It receives new life in ways that makes one’s daily life more enriched.
We leave behind the God who is in his black robe, angrily sitting on the bench ready to levy our deserved damnation and we awaken to a God who is in us yet all around us…
Absolutely backward; panentheistic, and it’s not Christianity, it’s spiritual suicide.
http://vimeo.com/2147491
http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=12698
candlelight
August 13th, 2009, 11:39 AM
How Not To Believe In God By Zach Lind
Published August 13th, 2009 by Editor in Emergence Christianity, Emerging Church, False Teaching
CRN brings this post by Zach Lind to your attention as illustrative of how far off-track the emerging church is getting.
Lind is a friend of Rob Bell, whom he interviews below, and builds this review piece around a lengthy quote from New Age Buddhist Ken Wilbur.
Lind also quotes Peter Rollins who even responds in the comments section.
Essentially this is an ode to unbelief. In a nutshell, what these people like Lind, Bell and Rollins are doing, because they are mystics, is attacking the final authority of the Bible in order to condition people to trust their experience to reinterpret the text. In the end they are held captive to their own very wrong synthetic world-view through which they then filter the Bible.
This is what Lind is talking about as he says:
What is so promising about these cracks continuing to form and widen, is that a new posture is emerging within Christianity where doubt and ambiguity are to be wrestled with, cherished, even.
When one moves from mere belief to faith, the Biblical text has become not just a static, inerrant, literalist playground. It receives new life in ways that makes one’s daily life more enriched.
We leave behind the God who is in his black robe, angrily sitting on the bench ready to levy our deserved damnation and we awaken to a God who is in us yet all around us…
Absolutely backward; panentheistic, and it’s not Christianity, it’s spiritual suicide.
http://vimeo.com/2147491
http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=12698
This is BY FAR the most ridiculous, meaningless interview I have ever witnessed. Not quite sure who is the bigger fool Rob Bell or the other guy? It really is almost comedy and reminds me of the 70's "Peace, Love, Dope". I could not even finish watching it as it made me sick and there was absolutely no spiritual substance regarding the truth. Pure POOP!
Theresa
August 13th, 2009, 11:48 AM
We leave behind the God who is in his black robe, angrily sitting on the bench ready to levy our deserved damnation and we awaken to a God who is in us yet all around us…
MY God is the One who loves us so much He allowed his naked body to be hung from a cross until He died, so that we could be cleansed from sin due to His sacrifice. It's pathetic that they don't see that God.
candlelight
August 13th, 2009, 11:56 AM
MY God is the One who loves us so much He allowed his naked body to be hung from a cross until He died, so that we could be cleansed from sin due to His sacrifice. It's pathetic that they don't see that God.
I AGREE! That was SHAMEFUL!
billiefan2000
August 17th, 2009, 05:37 PM
Chris Roseborough of
Pirate Christian Radio - Pietists Beware! (http://www.piratechristianradio.com)
from 5 pm to 7 pm cst time today
is among other things
talking about Brian McLaren and Ramadan
and Rob Bell and Tom Ehrich
will post the archive link from Fighting for the Faith (http://www.fightingforthefaith.com)
on here tommorow
billiefan2000
August 18th, 2009, 10:03 AM
Rob Bell's & Brian McLaren's Gospel-Less Gospel Has a Wrong "Framing Story"
August 17th, 2009
• Emails Regarding Abusive Pentecostal Churches
• The Self-Defeating Propositions in the Op-Ed Piece Written by Episcopal Priest, Tom Ehrich Entitled "There are Many Ways of Understanding God"
• Brian McLaren Says He's Going to Observer Ramadan This Year
• Rob Bell's & Brian McLaren's Gospel-Less Gospel Has a Wrong "Framing Story"
• Sermon Review: "The Fear of the Lord" by Jeremy Rhode of Faith Lutheran Churh in Capistrano Beach, California
http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2009/08/rob-bells-brian-mclarens-gospelless-gospel-has-a-wrong-framing-story.html
billiefan2000
August 19th, 2009, 10:51 AM
Free E-Book Gives Analysis of Rob Bell’s “Jesus Wants to Save Christians”
Aug 19 by Ingrid Schlueter
I received the following press release today.
Austin, MN – Aug. 19, 2009 – A new resource is available to those who want to look more closely at the Christian book they’re reading. “Clear as a Bell” is a new e-book that holds the first chapter of “Jesus Wants to Save Christians,” by Rob Bell and Don Golden, up to the light of Scripture. Carefully written by experienced teacher Chris Jensen, the e-book offers Christians a new way to read faith-based materials.
“Without page-by-page, paragraph-by-paragraph analysis, it’s easy for us to assume that the Christian book we’re reading is in line with biblical truth,” says Jensen. “The e-book format allows readers to view the authors’ text and my analyses in tandem, creating a virtual conference between myself and the authors.” Jensen’s hope is that this format will become “the gold standard” for providing necessary feedback to Christian authors and provide valuable insight to readers.
“Most Christians agree that only the Bible is perfect and without flaw,” says Jensen, “so everything we humans write will be flawed to some degree. Unfortunately, though, we typically don’t consume ‘Christian materials’ with any kind of criticism at all.” Jensen believes we should bring “a healthy skepticism” to everything we read, listen to, and view, and that we should be always testing the media we consume against the truth of God’s Word, lest we fall into error. “To stay clear of false teaching,” he says, “we must take this matter of Christian media seriously.”
Having evaluated thousands of essays for his English classes, Jensen is now applying his critical eye to the popular Christian teachings of our day. Last February, he began posting his observations in the form of open letters on his blog, “the red pen” (www.redpen.org). To date, he has received very favorable feedback from visitors, in respect to the content of his analysis, and to the manner in which he shared his observations with Bell and Golden.
“Jesus said that I am to love my neighbor as myself,” says Jensen. “If I am going to be critical of the work of others, I must attend to the matter with loving prayer and the utmost care, lest my intended readers, the authors to whom I’m writing, stop reading and listening altogether.”
To access the free e-book, “Clear as a Bell,” simply follow the download instructions at www.redpen.org.
http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/emerging-church/free-e-book-gives-analysis-of-rob-bells-jesus-wants-to-save-christians
billiefan2000
August 19th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Rob Bell And Another Gospel
Aug 19 by Ken Silva
This short post,
http://apprising.org/2009/08/rob-bell-and-another-gospel/
containing an excellent clip from Chris Rosebrough’s Fighting for the Faith program, notes the striking similarities in Bell’s work with
that of unbelieving liberals like Marcus Borg and John Dominic Crossan
http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/emerging-church/rob-bell-and-another-gospel
Nightelf
August 19th, 2009, 05:49 PM
Thank you!!!!
Have you downloaded it yourself..... how long is it, do you know?
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