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soulfinder
July 24th, 2007, 02:05 PM
Jesus in the furnace with friends

Daniel 3

1 Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was sixty cubits and its width six cubits. He set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

2 And King Nebuchadnezzar sent word to gather together the satraps, the administrators, the governors, the counselors, the treasurers, the judges, the magistrates, and all the officials of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which King Nebuchadnezzar had set up.

3 So the satraps, the administrators, the governors, the counselors, the treasurers, the judges, the magistrates, and all the officials of the provinces gathered together for the dedication of the image that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up.

4 Then a herald cried aloud: “To you it is commanded, O peoples, nations, and languages,

5 that at the time you hear the sound of the horn, flute, harp, lyre, and psaltery, in symphony with all kinds of music, you shall fall down and worship the gold image that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up;

6 and whoever does not fall down and worship shall be cast immediately into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.”

7 So at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the horn, flute, harp, and lyre, in symphony with all kinds of music, all the people, nations, and languages fell down and worshiped the gold image which King Nebuchadnezzar had set up.

8 Therefore at that time certain Chaldeans came forward and accused the Jews.

9 They spoke and said to King Nebuchadnezzar, “O king, live forever!

10 You, O king, have made a decree that everyone who hears the sound of the horn, flute, harp, lyre, and psaltery, in symphony with all kinds of music, shall fall down and worship the gold image;

11 and whoever does not fall down and worship shall be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.

12 There are certain Jews whom you have set over the affairs of the province of Babylon: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego; these men, O king, have not paid due regard to you. They do not serve your gods or worship the gold image which you have set up.”

13 Then Nebuchadnezzar, in rage and fury, gave the command to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego. So they brought these men before the king.

14 Nebuchadnezzar spoke, saying to them, “Is it true, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, that you do not serve my gods or worship the gold image which I have set up?

15 Now if you are ready at the time you hear the sound of the horn, flute, harp, lyre, and psaltery, in symphony with all kinds of music, and you fall down and worship the image which I have made, good! But if you do not worship, you shall be cast immediately into the midst of a burning fiery furnace. And who is the god who will deliver you from my hands?”

16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego answered and said to the king, “O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter.

17 If that is the case, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and He will deliver us from your hand, O king.

18 But if not, let it be known to you, O king, that we do not serve your gods, nor will we worship the gold image which you have set up.”

19 Then Nebuchadnezzar was full of fury, and the expression on his face changed toward Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego. He spoke and commanded that they heat the furnace seven times more than it was usually heated.

20 And he commanded certain mighty men of valor who were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, and cast them into the burning fiery furnace.

21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their trousers, their turbans, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

22 Therefore, because the king’s command was urgent, and the furnace exceedingly hot, the flame of the fire killed those men who took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego.

23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

24 Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished; and he rose in haste and spoke, saying to his counselors, “Did we not cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?”
They answered and said to the king, “True, O king.”

25 “Look!” he answered, “I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”

Sing4Him
July 24th, 2007, 02:46 PM
form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”

Yep!

"He was there"

Joel
July 24th, 2007, 02:48 PM
The perfect expression of Him being in the 'Shamash position'... the '4th man' in the fiery furnace... He is the Servant Candle on the Torah Menorah.

Hootmon
July 24th, 2007, 03:29 PM
The perfect expression of Him being in the 'Shamash position'... the '4th man' in the fiery furnace... He is the Servant Candle on the Torah Menorah.Is that the candle that lights the others?

Joel
July 24th, 2007, 03:33 PM
Yes. it was the 4th candlestick on every Torah menorah.... and as well the center candlestick, from which the shaft (and root) of the Menorah was based upon.

The Torah Menorah is in likeness of semblance to the Tree of Life...

Sing4Him
July 24th, 2007, 03:41 PM
wow! awesome, Joel.

Joel
July 25th, 2007, 12:59 AM
I love this story..

Oh but it's so much more than a story, at the same time... it's a foremarker and anticipatory model of the future end-time scheme of things... it's a shadow and a type, in other words....


For example, the furnace being turned up 'seven times hotter' at the behest of Nebby, the King of Babylon... speaks to the 7 year fiery trial of the Tribulation, which the 'King of Babylon' will engineer (AntiChrist, Mystery Babylon).

Shadrach and his compadres... these are the Jews in the midst, safely protected on every side.. Christ being among them in their future trials.

Hootmon
July 25th, 2007, 09:32 AM
Let's not forget the trio's original names...

Dan 1:7 Then the commander of the officials assigned new names to them; and to Daniel he assigned the name Belteshazzar, to Hananiah Shadrach, to Mishael Meshach and to Azariah Abed-nego.

Shadrach was Hananiah = “God has favoured”
Meshach was Mishael = “who is what God is”
Abed-nego was Azariah = “Jehovah has helped”

AnnaC
July 25th, 2007, 10:06 AM
Oh but it's so much more than a story, at the same time... it's a foremarker and anticipatory model of the future end-time scheme of things... it's a shadow and a type, in other words....


For example, the furnace being turned up 'seven times hotter' at the behest of Nebby, the King of Babylon... speaks to the 7 year fiery trial of the Tribulation, which the 'King of Babylon' will engineer (AntiChrist, Mystery Babylon).

Shadrach and his compadres... these are the Jews in the midst, safely protected on every side.. Christ being among them in their future trials.

That's cool. Never thought about it in that light before!

soulfinder
July 26th, 2007, 09:56 PM
:)

Please be careful of confusion.

Although my fellow Israelis have come with many new customs and ideas, some may be a little confused.

The menorah in the book of revelations symbolizes the church.

Furthermore, there are many symbols in revelations.

The woman with the twelve stars is Israel.

The dragon is the devils.

Mountains are kingdoms.

The number seven means all/complete
ex: Seven eyes=all seeing Seven Horns=all strength.