Pope says we need to listen to the voice of the earth

[cotton]

Just wanted you to know that there are Catholics out here, who are dyed in the wool, young earth Creationists, and totally against any belief in Gia!!! They wish the Pope would do some study, and he would then see that indeed Evillution (spelled on purpose) and Creation can not co-exist. The wages of Sin are Death, and the corruption of God's perfect creation. Evolution says that if there was an Adam and Eve, that before them came millions of years of Death and decay. If there was no original Sin, then Jesus' death has no purpose. If there was no first Adam, no second Adam is needed. If Genesis is all a myth, then Jesus believed a lie, as he spoke referring to the History of Genesis. He could not be God and believe a lie! Genesis is the foundation of our trust in God. Without it we have no creation, no fall into sin, no promish of a Savior, no Flood....... Christianity Falls. Look around you, do you see Evolution or de-evolution? Does the earth naturally tend to more and more order or to Chaos? Some folks, think the Bible is His Story and History.

[jba4241]

This is from the link in the OP:

A role by God?What that statement means is that pure evolutionists want to deny any role by God in creating man. He's simply answering that argument. People who try to mix evolution and creationism insist that even if humans evolved from some earlier type of animal, at some point God infused a soul into the first man, Adam. I don't buy that, but that's what they say. So his comment "role by God" was a direct attack on pure evolutionists.

You guys put way too much stock in everything the pope says. You can't necessarily take his words so literally. Listening to the earth? I'm quite certain he isn't suggesting you physically listen to the earth. It's a colloquialism. In other words, pay attention (listen) to what is happening to the earth. We're destroying it!!! And I'm a creationist, and I'm a Christian. But I'm not going to pretend that God is pleased with our ruthless destruction of this earth.

Joe

[mercyandgrace]

Is anyone else concerned about the very radical shifts the Pope seems to be making lately? It seems like he is trning fully secular to me....thats statement earlier this month about Churches that...even though they can trace thier roots... (as if that was a requirement of the Bible) they still can't be a true Church because they don't believe in him....that's strange....No we need to listen to the Earth?

I didn't miss the factthat while the EU is becoming more and more involved in the Middle East...when the Italian Prime Minster went to Israel he was accompanied by a high Vatican Official...Mixing politics and religion especially in these times is very dangerous business....

God Bless You All

I think we will start seeing more radical shifts in the near future. This one is worth keeping our eye on.

[Hope]

Oh my GOSH, I just cannot see this Pope using the term "go green" ... That is just TOO preposterous. Gee, you don't suppose the reporter has a little bias, do you? Maybe slanting the interview just a tad to the far GREEN left. This article does not jive at all with the Pope's statements in April that are all over the Internet. Methinksme smells a stinker, and ain't the Pope, but it could be that far left liberal media who does nothing but distort EVERYTHING. Come on, you guys, do you believe MSMBC is a valid, authentic unbiased news outlet? Give me a break!

Hope

[Leialoha]

Oh my GOSH, I just cannot see this Pope using the term "go green" ... That is just TOO preposterous. Gee, you don't suppose the reporter has a little bias, do you? Maybe slanting the interview just a tad to the far GREEN left. This article does not jive at all with the Pope's statements in April that are all over the Internet. Methinksme smells a stinker, and ain't the Pope, but it could be that far left liberal media who does nothing but distort EVERYTHING. Come on, you guys, do you believe MSMBC is a valid, authentic unbiased news outlet? Give me a break!

Hope

“This obedience to the voice of the Earth is more important for our future happiness ... than the desires of the moment. Our Earth is talking to us and we must listen to it and decipher its message if we want to survive,”

Doesn't sound pantheistic but more just another tree-hugging type statement.

I think it is biblical to tell people to take care of the land and animals properly (i.e. read the books of the law, God had some great ideas about letting the land rest and how to humanely slaughter animals for food).

The pope is a political figure, so I would expect these types of statments more than evangelical witnessing stuff.

[Hope]

Hi Leialoha,

I think he probably said 'something' along these lines ... more like being good stewards of the earth, stuff like that, ... but that the "translation" took on a more new age, green earth, fanatical, like you said, tree-hugging emphasis. I just cannot see this VERY old German using these kinds of terms to state his "views." It's just kind of comical to picture that! "Go green" LOL! Plus, just a few months ago he stated that there was no definitive proof for Darwinianism and that it was impossible to prove, so I think the reporter may have been using a bit of "wishful thinking" in his analysis of what was said today.

Hope

[farmgirl]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22136550-401,00.html

Here's another source. I think its very important to listen to the terminology the pope uses because he is a political leader. Most political leaders are highly aware of the connotations that might be placed on their words. He did not use the term "obeying the voice of the earth" in casual conversation. That does seem so strange coming from him that I think its worth noting. Why did he use those phrases? I am all for taking better care of our environment and better stewardship. Why didn't he say that? :scratch

[Daniel1210]

jba4241
You guys put way too much stock in everything the pope says. You can't necessarily take his words so literally. Listening to the earth? I'm quite certain he isn't suggesting you physically listen to the earth. It's a colloquialism. In other words, pay attention (listen) to what is happening to the earth.

It's really pretty suspicious when everytime this guy says something there's people explaining 'what he really meant to say'.

It sure seems that when people who agree with him back him up it's the 'infallibility' of the Pope thing, when he says something flaky, it's 'colloquialism.'

[funmudder]

Wow. Whatever happened to listening to God? Catholicism and outright paganism starting to get intertwined? I mean this is coming from the pope in a public statement.

Catholicism has been intertwined with paganism for centuries. It's just more blatant these days.

[BigBunny]

wow :twitch no offense to anyone who is Catholic on here because i know that by being on this board you love the Lord Jesus very much :pray but i just have to say... the Pope *** :ohno

“This obedience to the voice of the Earth is more important for our future happiness ... than the desires of the moment. Our Earth is talking to us and we must listen to it and decipher its message if we want to survive,” he said.

whatever happened to listening to Almighty God who made the Earth :doh