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theroc
July 27th, 2007, 05:00 PM
"You can't be saved by DOING anything."
Ray Comfort
"For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS."
Matthew 16:27
This guy doesn't even know the book he pushes.
How do I explain this?
Sing4Him
July 27th, 2007, 06:17 PM
Are you referring to the scripture?
Jesus is speaking of the "works" (our witness, looking for his appearance etc) we do for him once we are saved. (after salvation) These merit eternal rewards, crowns, that we will cast before his feet.
What "guy doesn't know the book he pushes"??
theroc
July 27th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Are you referring to the scripture?
Jesus is speaking of the "works" (our witness, looking for his appearance etc) we do for him once we are saved. (after salvation) These merit eternal rewards, crowns, that we will cast before his feet.
What "guy doesn't know the book he pushes"??
Thats what I thought but I didnt want to say something because I wasnt 100 percent sure.
I dont know, thats what the guy said. Mybe he means Ray pushing the Bible and he doesnt know it b/c of that verse? But basically I just wanted to clarify what that verse was talking about.
Sing4Him
July 27th, 2007, 06:27 PM
I can't really tell what you are referring to as you have no link if that is what you are referring to.:scratch
Ray Comfort knows his Bible! :thumb
Mailman Dan
July 27th, 2007, 06:43 PM
I need to be clear on the question before I give a full answer.
Are you saying that the bible says we are saved by works?
Ray had stated that you are NOT saved by works, which is true. We are all saved by Grace through faith in Christ.
Works, however, come after salvation. One does not earn grace by DOING things..
Dan~~~>not sure he grasp the question
theroc
July 27th, 2007, 10:44 PM
NO NO lol I didnt ask this question lol I love way of the master! Saved by Grace lol
I asked, how do I answer this question..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UCM84C4cI-4&mode=related&search=
"You can't be saved by DOING anything."
Ray Comfort
"For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS."
Matthew 16:27
This guy doesn't even know the book he pushes
zhan
July 29th, 2007, 07:16 AM
Ooh! You're referring to the statement by macman13 (in the youtube video comments) from three days ago where *he* says Ray doesn't know what he's talking about.
Heh, the answer is above. Salvation isn't by works but by grace alone.
This place has a nice take on it, though I disagree with #4. I think that if you are saved that there will be changes in your life, but don't think those works are *required* to be saved. I think they're putting the cart before the horse there.
http://www.creationism.org/gospel/english/grace.htm
jgreen0227
July 29th, 2007, 07:53 AM
...and here are the rewards that we will be handed out at the JSOC, right after the rapture...
http://www.circlegame.com/live/seat.htm
Buzzardhut
July 29th, 2007, 11:10 AM
The salvation process is like a man sitting in a debtors prison cage set to descend into hell.
His debt has been paid in full and his cage is unlocked, all he has to do is stand up and walk out.
Standing up and walking out has nothing to do with the work that paid his debt for he cannot pay for himself while locked up.
His decision to believe it and open the door is his own free will or he can stay seated forever at his own expense.
Others can stand up and walk around the cage, the key is in escaping through the door before the cage descends.
No2Flesh
July 29th, 2007, 03:05 PM
...and here are the rewards that we will be handed out at the JSOC, right after the rapture...
http://www.circlegame.com/live/seat.htm
Thanks for posting that link, it was a blessing to me.:wave
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