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HeXp£Øi±
July 29th, 2007, 10:50 PM
Why do we not read the Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets, Jubilees or Tobit? These were all found with the dead sea scrolls and pre-date the roman catholic church. So should we be reading them?
Jadiri
July 30th, 2007, 12:06 AM
GO ahead and read them if you like just know that they are not cannon ..
there is no set rule against reading them just that some debate who the true writers of them are and discussing things from them will be difficult as many have never seen or read them ...
SOme of the other books are also very incomplete there is big block and small blocks of missing texted From ageing and such leaveing some of the books open for guessing what the missing parts say in context..
as well many of them books read much like they were copyed from what is already in the new testiment we have some nearly word for word in some places..
mainly why they are not read is because it is easyer to all be studying the same thing with a set grouping of books for all rather then several different bibles with all different books in them our Lord is not a Lord of confusion ..
Wildcat81
July 30th, 2007, 12:49 AM
Wait a sec... what do you mean when you say "The Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets"? The only "Twelve Minor Prophets" I know of are Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi.
They're grouped as the Twelve Minor Prophets in the Hebrew order of the Old Testament, which is arranged differently than in Christian Bibles. In the Hebrew Bible you get the Torah, which is Genesis-Deuteronomy, same as our Bibles. Then the Prophets (Nevi'im), which are divided into Major Prophets and Minor Prophets (aka, The Book of the Twelve). The books of the Major Prophets are 1-2 Samuel, 1-2 Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel. Then come the Minor prophets (listed above). And finally the Writings (Kethuvim): Psalms, Job, Proverbs, Ruth, Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes, Lamentations, Esther, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemiah, and 1-2 Chronicles. The term Tanakh (a Jewish term for the entire Hebrew Bible) comes from the initials of the three sections: Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim = TaNaKh.
So the short answer is, we do read the The Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets. At least, we're supposed to - a lot of Christians don't, unfortunately.
Buzzardhut
July 30th, 2007, 01:14 AM
Wait a sec... what do you mean when you say "The Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets"? The only "Twelve Minor Prophets" I know of are Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi.
They're grouped as the Twelve Minor Prophets in the Hebrew order of the Old Testament, which is arranged differently than in Christian Bibles. In the Hebrew Bible you get the Torah, which is Genesis-Deuteronomy, same as our Bibles. Then the Prophets (Nevi'im), which are divided into Major Prophets and Minor Prophets (aka, The Book of the Twelve). The books of the Major Prophets are 1-2 Samuel, 1-2 Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel. Then come the Minor prophets (listed above). And finally the Writings (Kethuvim): Psalms, Job, Proverbs, Ruth, Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes, Lamentations, Esther, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemiah, and 1-2 Chronicles. The term Tanakh (a Jewish term for the entire Hebrew Bible) comes from the initials of the three sections: Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim = TaNaKh.
So the short answer is, we do read the The Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets. At least, we're supposed to - a lot of Christians don't, unfortunately.
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HeXp£Øi±
July 30th, 2007, 02:03 AM
Wait a sec... what do you mean when you say "The Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets"? The only "Twelve Minor Prophets" I know of are Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi.
They're grouped as the Twelve Minor Prophets in the Hebrew order of the Old Testament, which is arranged differently than in Christian Bibles. In the Hebrew Bible you get the Torah, which is Genesis-Deuteronomy, same as our Bibles. Then the Prophets (Nevi'im), which are divided into Major Prophets and Minor Prophets (aka, The Book of the Twelve). The books of the Major Prophets are 1-2 Samuel, 1-2 Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel. Then come the Minor prophets (listed above). And finally the Writings (Kethuvim): Psalms, Job, Proverbs, Ruth, Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes, Lamentations, Esther, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemiah, and 1-2 Chronicles. The term Tanakh (a Jewish term for the entire Hebrew Bible) comes from the initials of the three sections: Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim = TaNaKh.
So the short answer is, we do read the The Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets. At least, we're supposed to - a lot of Christians don't, unfortunately.
Oh sorry. Never heard to them referred to that way. Guess the question is still the same for the other books though.:)
Buzzardhut
July 30th, 2007, 02:24 AM
The Pseudepigrapha and Apocrypha (http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/)
Jadiri
July 30th, 2007, 02:32 AM
Love that link buzzard and that just scratches the surface of reading out there there if one really want to get in to it to see what there is.. some of the book are really open with lots of missing bits though as well as lots of doubt to how authentic...
Buzzardhut
July 30th, 2007, 03:09 AM
Love that link buzzard and that just scratches the surface of reading out there there if one really want to get in to it to see what there is.. some of the book are really open with lots of missing bits though as well as lots of doubt to how authentic...
A lot of those books are Gnostic in nature.
Paidfor
July 30th, 2007, 05:19 PM
One I didn't see listed on Buzz's link and what Hex may be referring to in the OP is "Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs". I have never read any of it. I know the 12 patriarchs are the 12 sons of Jacob.
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