John 17:12 What does this mean?

[HeXp£Øi±]

John 17
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

What does this mean "none are lost but the son of perdition"?
From what i understand the son of perdition is Satan?
Or perhaps Jesus is referring to Judas since Satan entered Judas?

[Buzzardhut]

In that context, Jesus is referring to the one who would betray him.
Those under the control of the spirit of satan are the sons of perdition.
In contrast with those destined for heaven, the sons of perdition are destined for hell.
The AC will be a son of perdition.

[HeXp£Øi±]

In that context, Jesus is referring to the one who would betray him.
Those under the control of the spirit of satan are the sons of perdition.
In contrast with those destined for heaven, the sons of perdition are destined for hell.
The AC will be a son of perdition.

To be sure, can you site another example of this?

[Buzzardhut]

The English word perdition is used to translate the original Greek word of the New Testament pronounced a-poh-lia meaning condemnation and eternal death. The apostles Peter and Paul used the term, translated as either perdition (King James Version) or destruction (Revised Standard Version) in contrast to salvation and eternal life.

They emphasized that it's a knowing choice - there will be none in the Kingdom of God who did not choose to be there by their righteousness, and there will be none destroyed in the lake of fire who did not choose to be there by their wickedness.

Freedom of Choice: Salvation or Perdition (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/20020313.htm)

"Only let your manner of life be worthy of the Gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or am absent, I may hear of you that you stand firm in one spirit, with one mind striving side by side for the faith of the Gospel, and not frightened in anything by your opponents. This is a clear omen to them of their destruction [KJV perdition], but of your salvation, and that from God." (Philippians 1:27-28 RSV)

"For yet a little while, and the coming one shall come and shall not tarry; but my righteous one shall live by faith, and if he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him." But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed [KJV perdition], but of those who have faith and keep their souls." (Hebrews 10:37-39 RSV)

"They deliberately ignore this fact, that by the word of God heavens existed long ago, and an earth formed out of water and by means of water, through which the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist have been stored up for fire [see Planet On Fire!], being kept until the day of judgment and destruction [KJV perdition] of ungodly men." (2 Peter 3:5-7 RSV)

Sons of Perdition Identified

Although it seems that there are going to be many sons, and daughters, of perdition, three are identified specifically, one from Bible History who has been dead for nearly 2,000 years, and two from Prophecy who are very likely alive in the world today. Jesus Christ referred to Judas Iscariot as a son of perdition, and the apostles Paul and John wrote of two end-time sons of perdition who will be working in union (see Revelation 13), one a great religious leader, the other a great political/military dictator.

Judas Iscariot:

"And now I am no more in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to Thee. Holy Father, keep them in Thy Name, which Thou hast given Me, that they may be one, even as We are one. While I was with them, I kept them in Thy Name, which Thou hast given Me; I have guarded them, and none of them is lost but the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled." (John 17:11-12 RSV)

The end-time Beast (a great charismatic political/military dictator, the leader of the last revival of the ancient Roman Empire - see Daniel's Statue and the Great False Prophet (a great religious leader, who lives in a "city of seven hills," who will perform Satan-powered miracles) who together will deceive much of the world into fighting the Messiah ("they will make war on the Lamb,"

[HeXp£Øi±]

Ok then so verse 12 was definitely speaking specifically of the apostles & Judas.
Got it. Thanks Buzzardhut.:)

[Hootmon]

The coming AC is also referred to as 'Son of Perdition/Destruction'.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition (apōleia); Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(2Th 2:3-4)

[Buzzardhut]

The coming AC is also referred to as 'Son of Perdition/Destruction'.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition (apōleia); Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(2Th 2:3-4)
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