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    Default Pastor says talking about rapture is not important

    I have been procrastinating for the past year as to whether i should leave my church and the Lord has not been slack to give me warning signals. i believe this was one of them.

    My pastor mentioned that he doesn't feel the need to talk about the rapture and that what's important is not thinking about that but worrying about what you do today and helping people in Christ right now... to not focus on the future.
    this struck me as just plain wrong and odd for a pastor to approach it like this.

    Do you feel our pastors are obligated to talk about Jesus coming back or at least end times in book of revelation?

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    I think a good Pastor should talk about it all. That includes everything from Genesis to Revelation, and all points in between. Including the Rapture.
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    Absolutely. We need to live as if Christ could come back any moment (because He could), which means living holy lives (as best as possible) and spreading the Gospel. That's helping people on earth in Christ. I don't understand why so many in the church abhor the doctine of the Rapture.

    What your pastor said reminds me of a saying that really annoys me: "Christians can be so heavenly minded that they're no earthly good." I think that saying is a load of hogwash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodwithUS View Post
    I think a good Pastor should talk about it all. That includes everything from Genesis to Revelations, and all points in between. Including the Rapture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodwithUS View Post
    I think a good Pastor should talk about it all. That includes everything from Genesis to Revelations, and all points in between. Including the Rapture.
    My thoughts exactly.

    Another thought..... not all "pastors" are actually trained well and aren't secure in their Biblical knowledge. Someone pointed out on another thread here at RR that Joel Osteen was filmed on the TV show "the view" without a Bible with him. As he answered questions from the women "stars".... he seemed to fumble his answers because he wasn't quoting God but answering... "Well, I FEEL...." or " WELL, I BELIEVE.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musclecar1975 View Post
    Absolutely. We need to live as if Christ could come back any moment (because He could), which means living holy lives (as best as possible) and spreading the Gospel. That's helping people on earth in Christ. I don't understand why so many in the church abhor the doctine of the Rapture.

    What your pastor said reminds me of a saying that really annoys me: "Christians can be so heavenly minded that they're no earthly good." I think that saying is a load of hogwash.
    A pastor should be telling the people about the rapture. It is our blessed hope & here are great scriptures that we should be comforting one another. I Thessalonians 4:13-18. We are not to be ignorant of the end times, but prepared.

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    Yes, he should be telling about the rapture!! Its a wonderful thing to know about

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    Until we hear a direct word from God that He made a mistake and He should have left out a section of the bible/His Word, then all of it is important. From the first page to the last and should never be ignored by pastors. Sounds like something the enemy would have a pastor say doesnt it? The enemy's influence is everywhere but I know he goes after the pastors and teachers of God's Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulheart View Post
    I have been procrastinating for the past year as to whether i should leave my church and the Lord has not been slack to give me warning signals. i believe this was one of them.

    My pastor mentioned that he doesn't feel the need to talk about the rapture and that what's important is not thinking about that but worrying about what you do today and helping people in Christ right now... to not focus on the future.
    this struck me as just plain wrong and odd for a pastor to approach it like this.

    Do you feel our pastors are obligated to talk about Jesus coming back or at least end times in book of revelation?
    If he doesn't understand it, it's not important to him
    he could be confused over all the positions
    The end times are very important to God so it should be important to us as well
    There is a special blessing for those who study and teach the end times



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    Is this a "purpose driven" church? because in his PDL book Rick Warren was emphatic about falsely putting words in jesus' mouth , when he said what jesus essentially said (about bible prophecy) was that it was none of our business. of course this is the guy who also proclaims that satan is entirely predictable. so pdl churches are called to ignore 1/3 of the bible. and that would include any talk of the rapture

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    If a pastor doesn't preach about the rapture and the return of the Lord he fails to preach the Whole Counsel of God. There is a reason that God included it in the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by His Bride View Post
    If a pastor doesn't preach about the rapture and the return of the Lord he fails to preach the Whole Counsel of God. There is a reason that God included it in the Bible.
    His agenda is probably raising the church membership roll and thinks teaching prophesy will scare them off



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    While the book of Revelation is not as specific on the Rapture as some of the other books (i.e. 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 & 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) it has plenty of supporting evidence of the the Pre-Trib Rapture.

    Besides, it's the only book in the Bible that promises a blessing for those who read it!

    Revelation 1:3

    Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
    Matthew 22:36-40

    36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" 37 And He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' 38 "This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 "The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' 40 "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark777 View Post
    While the book of Revelation is not as specific on the Rapture as some of the other books (i.e. 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 & 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) it has plenty of supporting evidence of the the Pre-Trib Rapture.

    Besides, it's the only book in the Bible that promises a blessing for those who read it!

    Revelation 1:3

    Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
    Lots of pastors and church members will miss out on that blessing



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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    Lots of pastors and church members will miss out on that blessing
    "...thou art my praise." Jeremiah 17:14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musclecar1975 View Post
    What your pastor said reminds me of a saying that really annoys me: "Christians can be so heavenly minded that they're no earthly good." I think that saying is a load of hogwash.
    I used to think that way, but I don't anymore.

    God has really changed my mind on a lot of things over the past several years. Pray for your pastor, that God will convict him to start teaching the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewWorldOrder View Post
    I used to think that way, but I don't anymore.

    God has really changed my mind on a lot of things over the past several years. Pray for your pastor, that God will convict him to start teaching the Bible.
    Yes, that saying is untrue! It is being truly heavenly minded that allows God to work through us on Earth to share the Gospel and be His hands and feet.
    There is a great deal of Kingdom Now Theology going around now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulheart View Post
    Do you feel our pastors are obligated to talk about Jesus coming back or at least end times in book of revelation?
    John had an opinion. There is a "Hopefulness" we are to have. How do we have it, if we do not hear it expressed and reinforced by those who are supposed to "Teach"? Leaving this element of our faith is foolish and short sighted. This and many other passages have a forward view of what is to come, and how it is to encourage us in the here and now.

    1 John 3

    1 Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. 2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. 3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
    There is One King, and He is not this guy.

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    I say yes big time. Your pastor definitely needs to be preaching about the rapture. The rapture is going to be so soon that a lot of church members are going to be left behind. Prophecy is a big time witnessing tool and helped lead me to accept Christ as my personal savior and ask for forgiveness of my sins. Your pastor should be looking forward to the rapture as I am!

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    Quote Originally Posted by His Bride View Post
    Yes, that saying is untrue! It is being truly heavenly minded that allows God to work through us on Earth to share the Gospel and be His hands and feet.
    There is a great deal of Kingdom Now Theology going around now.
    That term should really be the other way around, "you are so earthly minded, that your of no Heavenly good.

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