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    It seems to me the inspiration for creating the Koran was out of a hateful need to jealously control people. Muhammad proclaims in the Koran that Jesus is not the son of God and he claims to know for a fact that Jesus was not crucified. He lied about Jesus to gain the love of the world, and to get them to worshop him in the place of the one true God. Muhammad was a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist and a pedophile. Islam is antichrist in nature. Am I the only one to notice this?

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    Not at all. It is the satanic religion of "peace".

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    I have been doing a lot of research and preaching on Islamic sites. If I show any dislike, or argue against the Koran at all I get banned. I often hear "what right do you have feeling that way". Islam doesn't allow ANYONE to feel anger or dislike towards Muhammad! The phylosophies that arise from Islam are just downright rediculous. They teach that there are multible truths. They praise Jesus and say he never told a lie, then in the same paragraph contradict things Jesus said himself. It really is amazing how the truth means absolutely nothing to them. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bag-Of-Hammers View Post
    I have been doing a lot of research and preaching on Islamic sites. If I show any dislike, or argue against the Koran at all I get banned. I often hear "what right do you have feeling that way". Islam doesn't allow ANYONE to feel anger or dislike towards Muhammad! The phylosophies that arise from Islam are just downright rediculous. They teach that there are multible truths. They praise Jesus and say he never told a lie, then in the same paragraph contradict things Jesus said himself. It really is amazing how the truth means absolutely nothing to them. Wow.
    I find when you are dealing with any cult, arguments never reach as far as the basic Gospel 101 message.

    --Muslims live in a completely legalistic society.
    The forgiveness offered by Christ is a draw to them. It is heavenly relief from islamic oppression.

    That said, Islamic sites are heavily monitored. They expect negative reaction to the violence they endorse. Its no surprise you've been banned.

    If you have a heart for muslims, there are ministries that reach out to them.
    With illegal radio broadcasts and Bibles secretly shipped they are reaching deep into the last frontier on earth. There have even been stories printed here on RR about muslims receiving visions of Jesus and converting...I can only assume the time for us is very short if that is happening.

    Islam is satan's perfect tool. Its emotion based (not intelectual), homicidal, and willing to make war on a moments notice.

    You might consider starting a blog that reaches out to muslims. You can control the comments and carry out the conversations you want.

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    I find when you are dealing with any cult, arguments never reach as far as the basic Gospel 101 message.
    Exactly.

    In my experience, arguing against Islam usually turns into a game of ping-pong and you find you've wasted much time and energy arguing against Islam, with little real progress gained with sharing Christ.

    Muslims already know that something in their lives is missing, whether they share that with you or not.

    Focus on Jesus and the basic gospel message more than arguing against Islam. Muslims don't want to even try to understand your arguments against Islam and they'll defend Islam to the end when there's just no reasonable defense left, simply because that's all the hope they know in this world.

    The basic gospel message overflows with hope. The Quran is a pitifully hopeless and loveless book in comparison.

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    Our pastor did a survey on Islam. So many of our of our church family has been over in islamic countries that he set aside a wednesday for them to speak. Some of the examples. One a was women being executed for being raped. The logic was the men were enticed by the woman. The worst of it is the Haditith says if they leave the religion kill them. The Quran says if you take a Jew, Christian, or pagan as a friend it as if you had left the religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bag-Of-Hammers View Post
    Muhammad proclaims in the Koran that Jesus is not the son of God and he claims to know for a fact that Jesus was not crucified. He lied about Jesus to gain the love of the world, and to get them to worshop him in the place of the one true God.
    Where in the Koran does it say all this? More than once I 've done a word search in the Koran online and I can't find the mention of JESUS..
    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/simple.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfcrew View Post
    Where in the Koran does it say all this? More than once I 've done a word search in the Koran online and I can't find the mention of JESUS..
    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/simple.html
    Well, I know they call Jesus Christ "Isa". And he does appear in the koran, but even so, its still not enough that they don't believe him to be the Son of the Lord God and that he took away the sin of the world.
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    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Pretty close to everything you want to know about Islam.
    "Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go."
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    Quote Originally Posted by drjoshua View Post
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Pretty close to everything you want to know about Islam.

    Another good one but I don't remember the entire title exactly...

    The Politically Incorrect (something-or-other) of Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caver View Post
    Another good one but I don't remember the entire title exactly...

    The Politically Incorrect (something-or-other) of Islam.
    Hmmm, I'll have to check that out. I forced myself to read the Qur'an and was amazed at how nonsensical it was. Even more so, I kept asking myself, "what do people see in this 'religion'?" It offers not hope, not true forgiveness, not love; it only offers hate.
    "Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go."
    Joshua 1:9

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    I encourage anyone interested in the truth about islam to look through the known and proven history of islam. "allah" can be traced directly to the demon baal of the old testament--the devil of false religion and idol worship...do a google search sometime on "baal/hubal/allah" and you will also get a full breakdown of how islam came about and how the savage muhammad and his blood-lust turned what was a polytheistic tribal belief of multi-"gods" into the current islam by murdering neighboring tribes who worshipped some of the other demons/idols. His goal was to force everyone to worship the demon of his family, allah, and it appears this jihadic movement continues to this day.

    What is sad, also like many mormons, is that the masses of followers aren't even aware of the origins of the beliefs that they practice. We must pray for the true God of the Bible to make Himself known to these people and to expose the lie--started by muhammed under control of the prince of lies......

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    The Politically Incorrect Guide (P.I.G ) to Islam and The Truth About Islam are books by Robert Spencer. I have them both, and they are excellent. I also have and suggest Why We Want to Kill You and Future Jihad by Walid Shoebat and Walid Phares, respectively. And one more to boot, check out the Day of Islam by Paul Williams.

    Robert Spencer's site is www.jihadwatch.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina_guy View Post
    The Politically Incorrect Guide (P.I.G ) to Islam and The Truth About Islam are books by Robert Spencer. I have them both, and they are excellent. I also have and suggest Why We Want to Kill You and Future Jihad by Walid Shoebat and Walid Phares, respectively. And one more to boot, check out the Day of Islam by Paul Williams.

    Robert Spencer's site is www.jihadwatch.org
    Many thanks for the memory boost.

    The P.I.G. to Islam.....now, that does have a flair to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMannn View Post
    I find when you are dealing with any cult, arguments never reach as far as the basic Gospel 101 message.

    --Muslims live in a completely legalistic society.
    The forgiveness offered by Christ is a draw to them. It is heavenly relief from islamic oppression.

    That said, Islamic sites are heavily monitored. They expect negative reaction to the violence they endorse. Its no surprise you've been banned.

    If you have a heart for muslims, there are ministries that reach out to them.
    With illegal radio broadcasts and Bibles secretly shipped they are reaching deep into the last frontier on earth. There have even been stories printed here on RR about muslims receiving visions of Jesus and converting...I can only assume the time for us is very short if that is happening.

    Islam is satan's perfect tool. Its emotion based (not intelectual), homicidal, and willing to make war on a moments notice.

    You might consider starting a blog that reaches out to muslims. You can control the comments and carry out the conversations you want.
    The biggest issue I have found in hearing Muslims speak of their faith is that they view Allah as a king. 'And you don't bother the king.'

    It's very sad to me, but the clarity of the Gospel message became even clearer to me upon talking to a Muslim online once. It's through the Holy Spirit that we can cry Abba Father - Muslims have no Heavenly Father because 'Allah takes no sons, no daughters.'

    Allah sounds like an arrogant someone (who appears as an angel of light - pretending to be...Gabriel, anyone?)

    I think it is so sad that they believe they must devote their whole being to this god, but that 'he' cares very little for them, and 'his creation,' in return.

    Hit that particular section of the Gospel hard - let them see their need for a heavenly father. They can't explain - it leaves them speechless - when they realize that Christians have the bond of an everlasting God who comforts us in times of need.

    Also interesting is that Catholics view God in much the same way as Muslims view Allah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard Catholics speak about their relationship to God and it sounds very distant similar to the way that Muslims have little 'access' to their god.
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    sounds to me like "Allah" of islam is also very unholy.YHWH is very Holy and cannot tolerate sin at all.YHWH sent Jesus to die in our place for our sins.also "Allah"'s version of Heaven is a place where women have no equal rights and it is a place of fornication.there is much i can say about this false "god" they worship.sounds more to me like the "god" of this age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tardisdoctor View Post
    The biggest issue I have found in hearing Muslims speak of their faith is that they view Allah as a king. 'And you don't bother the king.'

    It's very sad to me, but the clarity of the Gospel message became even clearer to me upon talking to a Muslim online once. It's through the Holy Spirit that we can cry Abba Father - Muslims have no Heavenly Father because 'Allah takes no sons, no daughters.'

    Allah sounds like an arrogant someone (who appears as an angel of light - pretending to be...Gabriel, anyone?)

    I think it is so sad that they believe they must devote their whole being to this god, but that 'he' cares very little for them, and 'his creation,' in return.

    Hit that particular section of the Gospel hard - let them see their need for a heavenly father. They can't explain - it leaves them speechless - when they realize that Christians have the bond of an everlasting God who comforts us in times of need.

    Also interesting is that Catholics view God in much the same way as Muslims view Allah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard Catholics speak about their relationship to God and it sounds very distant similar to the way that Muslims have little 'access' to their god.
    i would say lucifer.you and i know him as the devil.
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    Immortal beings like satan are capable of making long range plans that take thousands of years to complete,
    Thats what islam is all about.
    The Koran was created because satan new he needed some kind of book to compete with the Bible.
    And Islam was created because he needed a one God religion to compete with
    and war with Judaism and Christianity.
    Islam has always been satans tool.
    In fact Islam is truly Satan worship on a massive scale but without the pentagrams and goat sacrifices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saved by Grace View Post
    i would say lucifer.you and i know him as the devil.
    The story of Muhammad meeting Gabriel, "an angel of light," who delivers the words of Allah to him is clearly a conversation that Muhammad had with Lucifer.
    The Gospel of Jesus Christ

    "I am more flawed and sinful than I ever dared believe."

    "I am more loved and accepted than I ever dared hope."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tardisdoctor View Post
    The story of Muhammad meeting Gabriel, "an angel of light," who delivers the words of Allah to him is clearly a conversation that Muhammad had with Lucifer.
    In God I Trust


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