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    Sad but not surprising.

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    not surprised considering Osteen and Lakewood are part of the seeker-driven

    willow creek association

    the whole wca network of churches is very seeker-driven and compromising

    (i.e. slants to the left theology-wise)
    For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also (Matthew 6:21)

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    My thoughts are the sad depths of discernment by people in Houston to even elect the morally depraved. Same thing up here in Canada with the people in Winnipeg.

    They don't realize that God will hold them guilty of approving and electing a person engaged in morally depravity.

    If every politician knew that he was going to be held guilty in God's courtroom for approving of the sins of others there would be less compromise to secure votes.

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    Is ordinary man capable of "blessing" anybody? I mean, don't all true blessings come only from God??

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    Sigh. It seems to me that elections are won and lost over the number of votes cast.

    I live in Harris County. With this election, there were seven candidates originally---three democrats, one republican, and one Socialist Workers (yikes!)---and it ended up with a run-off election between two of the democratic candidates. The republican candidate received 20% of the original vote. With regard to the run-off election, I heard no information about when the run-off election was being held, though again, the other candidate was not what many of us would have considered a good alternative to cast a vote for. Please at least google on all this and see for yourself and be educated on what happened in Houston. Bill White's candidate who ran was a democrat. I don't know anyone who is happy about this last mayoral election or the [lack] of choice of a good candidate because I am a conservative surrounded by conservatives here, but we are becoming the minority. Please understand that since Katrina, many of the poor residents who are/were dependent on government help are now here---and we have an increasing population of Hispanics (many illegals), many in gangs like MS13, so while Big Oil, among other very lucrative industry like healthcare, is still big time here in Houston, things have turned more democratic within the city. The number of us who vote republican/conservative is decreasing. Alhere, please keep that in mind as you make comments. Maybe you are unfamiliar with what has happened in Houston in the last decade with our demographic.

    It would be good to pray over those of us who live here or within its vicinity and work there, as my husband does, that the Lord bring people into full realization of their sin as the Bible defines it and into relationship with Him through His son Jesus and then to walk rightly. That is what I pray. It's a fallen world. Things are getting worse---a sign of the times we are in. But the Lord is good and faithful to those of us who love Him. He commands us to be merciful to others---we speak truth in love---whether to Joel Osteen who can't seem to say the word sin anymore, to Annise Parker a lesbian who is now in position of authority, or to my neighbor 8 houses away who is still sitting in his unbelief completely lost. We are to pray, and pray and pray more for these folks who are twisting God's Word (which I think is one of the scariest things), who are in positions of authority, for those who are lost.

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    Default Joel Osteen on Being Your Best Every Day (from Fox Business channel 's Dave Ramsey show)

    anything missing in this 2 videoes?





    For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also (Matthew 6:21)

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    While my DSL is messing up right about now, I cant see the video..I'm gonna go out on the limb and say"sin", "satan", "evil", "repent", for $400 Alex...

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    What is missing?

    I did not see the videos but I'll take "left out Jesus" for $400.00 Alex.

    [cue up Jeopardy theme]
    Psalm 30:11-12 (New King James Version)

    11 You have turned for me my mourning into dancing;
    You have put off my sackcloth and clothed me with gladness,
    12 To the end that my glory may sing praise to You and not be silent.
    O LORD my God, I will give thanks to You forever.



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    Thanks for the citizen title Hoot!

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    Can I get "repent" and "going straight to hell" for $800 Alex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptureReady_7 View Post
    [cue up Jeopardy theme]
    The 3 contestants have locked in their answers.
    In the studio you can hear a pin drop as the Jeopardy theme winds up....

    Dum dum dum dum dum dum dum
    Dum dum dum dum DUM da da da dum dum
    Dum dum dum dum dum dum dum
    DUM da dum dum dum.... dum..... DUM!

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    Okay, seriously though, I don't have DSL, but can someone watch the video and tell us or confirm what was left out?

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    Hmmm ok was finally able to watch...

    He does what he always does...State the obvious about God wanting to provide, etc..but leave out THAT SATAN is the father of depression, ungratefulness, sin...and that its more than just psyching yourself into thinking "good thoughts"..its a battle that we have to fight in the mind EVERYDAY..And just like in any war, you have to know your enemy.

    Like I've said in other threads..I've been going there for about a yr(stopped recently) so he says the same thing every Sun & Wed. I swear the whole church is a bookstore...there are banners for his book BEFORE YOU WALK INTO THE SANCTUARY! .I'm like, dude I'll go to Borders when I feel like it, you dont have to remind me about it.

    I'm VERY much for inspiration, but not at the expense of telling the other side of the story. Which is at times we bring the hard times and difficulty on ourselves and let the devil in by living in sin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocopea9052 View Post


    Okay, seriously though, I don't have DSL, but can someone watch the video and tell us or confirm what was left out?
    Just what picked for answers didnt say Satan is the cause of the worlds sorrows...he didnt even say "the enemy" which is not normal for him..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maranatha!! View Post
    Hmmm ok was finally able to watch...

    He does what he always does...State the obvious about God wanting to provide, etc..but leave out THAT SATAN is the father of depression, ungratefulness, sin...and that its more than just psyching yourself into thinking "good thoughts"..its a battle that we have to fight in the mind EVERYDAY..And just like in any war, you have to know your enemy.

    Like I've said in other threads..I've been going there for about a yr(stopped recently) so he says the same thing every Sun & Wed. I swear the whole church is a bookstore...there are banners for his book BEFORE YOU WALK INTO THE SANCTUARY! .I'm like, dude I'll go to Borders when I feel like it, you dont have to remind me about it.

    I'm VERY much for inspiration, but not at the expense of telling the other side of the story. Which is at times we bring the hard times and difficulty on ourselves and let the devil in by living in sin...
    Maranatha

    Wow, so pretty much what everyone guessed. You know his preaching reminds me of Amway conventions (from years ago). I remember my brother had posted pictures of the kinds of cars and homes and vacations he wanted on his frig...bathroom mirror.....everything was about positive visual reinforcement. I just don't really buy into any of that stuff. Yes, having good thoughts and not dwelling on the negative is good. But trying to speak and think life into existence is not a foolproof method. As far a I know, only God has that ability.

    Thanks for the recap!

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    Default Joel Osteen at Lakewood starts drive-through healing service

    http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...0-top3-7266019

    HOUSTON (KTRK) -- Houston's Lakewood Church and Pastor Joel Osteen have changed the way a lot of people worship, and now Lakewood is starting a new service designed for people too ill to come to church. It's the idea of Dodie Osteen, Joel's mother and widow of the late John Osteen who founded Lakewood. Her ministry is healing and she's doing it outside the church walls - literally.

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    Psa 50:15 And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.

    2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

    Too Blessed to be depressed!!!!

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    I thought I had heard it all but a drive through healing service?

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    the church needs to wake up


    guys like Osteen are getting weirder and weirder and most churches


    are asleep or enabling the apostasy problem by not saying something


    btw:

    considering Joel Osteen and Lakewood Church are part of the seeker obsessed Willow Creek Association

    (see) http://www.willowcreek.com/wca_info/...20%20%20%20533


    this dont surprise me. nothing Osteen or other Willow Creek Association Pastors does anymore surprises me.
    For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also (Matthew 6:21)

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    Wow, Joel finally does something I could get interested in!!
    I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked.
    For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor;
    no good thing does He withhold from those whose walk is blameless.

    Psalm 84:10-11

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    God is going to judge all of these kinds of shenanigans one day.

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