Ron Paul vs. Genuine Conservatism

[MrMannn]

The Sticky of DOOOOOOM.

Buzzardhut was asked about what could be written about Ron Paul.

you can talk about ron paul all you want, what he is up to, what he believes in, where he went, I would keep that a separate thread
but you cannot represent his political issues as a member of his movement,
it does not fit in with our conservative position
RR is not libertarian
inserting ronpaulinianism clouds issues and derails threads
it makes a mess during campaigns and forces our mods to work overtime in corralling discussions
be a part of the solution, not part of the problem

OK, so what do we learn from this?
1) We are a conservative board. Paul is Libertarian, not a Conservative. Paul won't be a major part of this political board.

2) DO NOT insert Paulian politics into existing threads. They are different from conservative political thought and muddy the waters. If you must, OPEN A NEW THREAD. I am not above deleting individual posts.

3) DO NOT hijack existing threads. This is already a rule. Rule #2 is considered hijacking a thread.

4) There have been serious problems with Paul people in the past election. A new election season is coming up. We WILL NOT have a problem in this one.

RR does not offer a platform for conspiracy discussions. There are plenty of sites on the net where such discussions are welcomed. It the same thing with Paulianism and Libertarian issues. There are plenty of other sites, RR will not be one of them.

The rules have been changed, its official now.
[13] No liberal left wing libertarian political agendas, pacifism, socialism,

[looking2thesky]

One quick question. I dont mean to splash any waves here, nor do I want to bring the policies of Ron into this. But how exactly do you define conservative?

[Buzzardhut]

The Sticky of DOOOOOOM.

Buzzardhut was asked about what could be written about Ron Paul.

OK, so what do we learn from this?
1) We are a conservative board. Paul is Libertarian, not a Conservative. Paul won't be a major part of this political board.

2) DO NOT insert Paulian politics into existing threads. They are different from conservative political thought and muddy the waters. If you must, OPEN A NEW THREAD. I am not above deleting individual posts.

3) DO NOT hijack existing threads. This is already a rule. Rule #2 is considered hijacking a thread.

4) There have been serious problems with Paul people in the past election. A new election season is coming up. We WILL NOT have a problem in this one.

RR does not offer a platform for conspiracy discussions. There are plenty of sites on the net where such discussions are welcomed. It the same thing with Paulianism and Libertarian issues. There are plenty of other sites, RR will not be one of them.

The rules have been changed, its official now.
[13] No liberal left wing libertarian political agendas, pacifism, socialism,

• RP is unable to compromise or rally anyone to his side to get anything accomplished, he will never vote on the best bill possible; bills are never going to come out of Congress perfect. Because he will never bend, most of his votes are essentially meaningless and counter-productive.
  
• RP’s inability to bend spills over into defense and security issues, as well. He votes against bills that help Government detect and fight terrorism, arguing that they mean more government invasion of our privacy. He may have the right ideas but the wrong priorities, especially in our current fight against terrorism. His policies would make us less safe, more vulnerable, less able to detect and respond to terrorist groups.
  
• RP is an isolationist and is against free trade, his “Libertarian” policies are not some great new idea but hark back to the old and flawed ideas of individual-anarchism and right-wing “Libertarianism” which have been argued over and refuted many times in the last 150 years
  
• RP is a conspiracy nut. His supporters are the Jesse Venturas, John Birchers, and others who think 9/11 was an “inside job,” people who think everything they disagree with is “unconstitutional

[Buzzardhut]

One quick question. I dont mean to splash any waves here, nor do I want to bring the policies of Ron into this. But how exactly do you define conservative?

a good conservative president would:

• Preserve and uphold the US constitution, no attempts to change
• Strong national defense, support of Israel
• Small government, tax breaks for small businesses, support free market
• Rehabilitating the prison system
• Tax ratio percentage rate dependent upon income
• Fiscal responsibilities, cut out government waste, reduce salaries, fire all unnecessary government bureaucracies and offices, about 70%
• No political correctness, global warming, imaginary protection of critters, and all that other liberal garbage
• Uphold sanctity of moral principles.

anyone feel free to add to the list

[carolina_guy]

a good conservative president would (continued):

• uphold the sanctity of marriage
• uphold the sanctity of life
• no amnesty shamnesty
• protect national sovereignty