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    USA 3/15/2012 Presidential Executive Order~ Government can seize your rescources, even in PEACETIME!

    This got my attention yesterday and was signed as an EO on Friday March 15th 2012. The verbage is loose enough to drive a semi through and is vague enough to be very unsettling...especially this part.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...s-preparedness



    PART II - PRIORITIES AND ALLOCATIONS

    Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:

    (1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

    (2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

    (3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

    (4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;

    (5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

    (6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.

    (b) The Secretary of each agency delegated authority under subsection (a) of this section (resource departments) shall plan for and issue regulations to prioritize and allocate resources and establish standards and procedures by which the authority shall be used to promote the national defense, under both emergency and non-emergency conditions. Each Secretary shall authorize the heads of other agencies, as appropriate, to place priority ratings on contracts and orders for materials, services, and facilities needed in support of programs approved under section 202 of this order
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    (c) Each resource department shall act, as necessary and appropriate, upon requests for special priorities assistance, as defined by section 801(l) of this order, in a time frame consistent with the urgency of the need at hand. In situations where there are competing program requirements for limited resources, the resource department shall consult with the Secretary who made the required determination under section 202 of this order. Such Secretary shall coordinate with and identify for the resource department which program requirements to prioritize on the basis of operational urgency. In situations involving more than one Secretary making such a required determination under section 202 of this order, the Secretaries shall coordinate with and identify for the resource department which program requirements should receive priority on the basis of operational urgency.

    (d) If agreement cannot be reached between two such Secretaries, then the issue shall be referred to the President through the Assistant to the President and National Security Advisor and the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism.

    (e) The Secretary of each resource department, when necessary, shall make the finding required under section 101(b) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071(b). This finding shall be submitted for the President's approval through the Assistant to the President and National Security Advisor and the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism. Upon such approval, the Secretary of the resource department that made the finding may use the authority of section 101(a) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071(a), to control the general distribution of any material (including applicable services) in the civilian market.

    Sec. 202. Determinations. Except as provided in section 201(e) of this order, the authority delegated by section 201 of this order may be used only to support programs that have been determined in writing as necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense:

    (a) by the Secretary of Defense with respect to military production and construction, military assistance to foreign nations, military use of civil transportation, stockpiles managed by the Department of Defense, space, and directly related activities;

    (b) by the Secretary of Energy with respect to energy production and construction, distribution and use, and directly related activities; and

    (c) by the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to all other national defense programs, including civil defense and continuity of Government.
    Of course, not a peep is being said by the MSM. This comes directly from the White House itself..

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    One step closer to have that mark of the beast to purchase anything.


    Does anyone else besides me feel like something major is fixing to happen? All of these major political changes that always include the words "national defense" ... that the media IS NOT covering.

    What's going on? Why do we have to surf deep inside the Internet to find the truth ourselves? This "leave them alone and they'll come home" mentality to governing the U.S. is just too frightening for words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatChick View Post
    One step closer to have that mark of the beast to purchase anything.


    Does anyone else besides me feel like something major is fixing to happen? All of these major political changes that always include the words "national defense" ... that the media IS NOT covering.

    What's going on? Why do we have to surf deep inside the Internet to find the truth ourselves? This "leave them alone and they'll come home" mentality to governing the U.S. is just too frightening for words.
    Seems strange that Obama is doing this in the middle of an election BUT nothing Obama does seems strange to me anymore.

    One thing for sure;IF the Rapture were to happen before Nov 20,this is one P.O. he would activate.Sure hope it happens soon.We'll all be going
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    Fear not, for I am with you; Be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.’

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatChick View Post
    One step closer to have that mark of the beast to purchase anything.


    Does anyone else besides me feel like something major is fixing to happen? All of these major political changes that always include the words "national defense" ... that the media IS NOT covering.

    What's going on? Why do we have to surf deep inside the Internet to find the truth ourselves? This "leave them alone and they'll come home" mentality to governing the U.S. is just too frightening for words.
    I honestly don't know if anything will happen or is being planned, but the general non specific tone of the EO plus the fact that all of these "Secretaries" have absolute authority directly from the President to control each sector with no specifics of what constitutes a national emergency is beyond unsettling to me.
    If I didn't see it on the .gov page, I'd have thought it might be a very bad joke.
    Good thing that nothing surprises God and that He is in control of all!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByFaithIFly View Post
    Seems strange that Obama is doing this in the middle of an election BUT nothing Obama does seems strange to me anymore.

    One thing for sure;IF the Rapture were to happen before Nov 20,this is one P.O. he would activate.Sure hope it happens soon.We'll all be going
    AMEN, ByFaith!!

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    Can someone please explain what this means in layman's terms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneDayNearer View Post
    Can someone please explain what this means in layman's terms?
    OneDayNearer,
    From researching this today, what the facts are is this, (without my personal thoughts into it)
    Yesterday morning, a new Executive Order went into effect that was signed on Friday March 15 2012.
    There are no specific guidelines in the EO to specify what constitues a national emergency. But in case of whatever is declared a national emergency, now these Secretaries of Energy, Agriculture, Transportation, etc, have complete authority from the Office of the President to acquire anything and everything the government deems it needs.
    That includes, food, livestock, vehicles both farm equipment, vehicles, and the authority to control the flow of traffic or ban it all together.
    The Secretary of Health and Human Resources has all authority over health resources..
    The Secretary of Defense has all authority over all water resources..
    There is also a section further down in this that states that anyone that's deemed an expert in whatever the government needs done can be allocated WITHOUT compensation..
    and all of this authority going around and no really clear definition of what constitues a national emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneDayNearer View Post
    Can someone please explain what this means in layman's terms?
    Yes, please. My brain went numb when I started reading that thing...
    Tall Timbers

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    Thanks archangelmom....I appreciate you taking the time to explain what this means. This is indeed very disturbing.

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    Thanks archangelmom!! I appreciate the time you took to explain it. I copied the order from the WH and put it on my facebook page. I have a gut feeling something will happen before the elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Timbers View Post
    Yes, please. My brain went numb when I started reading that thing...
    My brain is pretty much the same way right now, TT and I haven't even gotten past section two.The legalese is astounding.
    Dh also pointed out to me that it's titled "The National Emergency Preparedness Plan" but beyond the title, the points in the EO do not use qualifiers such "In the event of..." "with the exception of..." leaving the points 100% ambiguous as to what the sitting POTUS wants to use this EO for.
    It's like writing a blank check because there are no clear qualifiers to keep it under clear control of what can and what cannot be allocated or how they can obtain those rescources in question.
    It could be completely harmless today and have teeth tomorrow because there are no exclusion clauses.

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    This could be terrifying but God is still on the throne..I am ever so grateful!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatChick View Post
    One step closer to have that mark of the beast to purchase anything.


    Does anyone else besides me feel like something major is fixing to happen? All of these major political changes that always include the words "national defense" ... that the media IS NOT covering.

    What's going on? Why do we have to surf deep inside the Internet to find the truth ourselves? This "leave them alone and they'll come home" mentality to governing the U.S. is just too frightening for words.
    I have felt this way for a very long time. Not so tin foil shed anymore, is it? If you add that to the NDAA that authorizes the arrest and detention of any American citizen without warrent or legal counsel, and up to assination per order of the Executive in Chief. Also, Christians, pro-lifers, Constitutionalist, Ron Paul Supporters are all considered possible domestic terrorists. 30,000 drones are in place around the country capable of spying, delivering tear gas and tasering. This is serious, folks. We need to be putting on the whole armour of God, and praying like never before. My husband and I had often talked of moving to another country before I became too disabled to work. It is truly a sad day for our freedom is gone as is the country we loved

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    The major thing that strikes me is #6 the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials. Especially construction equipment.

    What is it that they want to build that they feel they must confiscate from existing business? Why can't the government get those construction materials on thier own? It wouldn't surprise me if they were to use this EO as a means to stockpile. Possibly create a situation where they confiscate everything needed for whatever they have in mind.

    I remember seeing a map Glenn Beck showed when I was still watching his show 2 years ago, that had a map of our nation's resources overlapped with a map of Government owned land. Most of the Government owned land was right on top of those resource sites. With all that in mind, this is quite troubling.

    Another thing, The other day I heard something about Obama releasing the Emergency Oil Reserves...I'm still looking into that, but #2 the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy

    My first thoughts about the release or possible release, as I keep finding conflicting reports, was what happens if after we have depleted the oil reserves we have (roughly 36 days of supply) Israel attack Iran or something happens where our imports of ME oil cannot get to our shores to deliver the oil? With this EO, it seems the Government will confiscate oil from it's own citizens to cover up the "oil shortage" they will no doubt call it, without lifting the moratorium over the Gulf, or reversing the Pipeline decision.

    This frightens me!
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    I have had a very strong feeling that there will be no vote or election day this year. Does anyone else feel the same way? I am so ready to go home, Lord Jesus, please come quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoWolf View Post
    The major thing that strikes me is #6 the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials. Especially construction equipment.

    What is it that they want to build that they feel they must confiscate from existing business? Why can't the government get those construction materials on thier own? It wouldn't surprise me if they were to use this EO as a means to stockpile. Possibly create a situation where they confiscate everything needed for whatever they have in mind.

    I remember seeing a map Glenn Beck showed when I was still watching his show 2 years ago, that had a map of our nation's resources overlapped with a map of Government owned land. Most of the Government owned land was right on top of those resource sites. With all that in mind, this is quite troubling.

    Another thing, The other day I heard something about Obama releasing the Emergency Oil Reserves...I'm still looking into that, but #2 the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy

    My first thoughts about the release or possible release, as I keep finding conflicting reports, was what happens if after we have depleted the oil reserves we have (roughly 36 days of supply) Israel attack Iran or something happens where our imports of ME oil cannot get to our shores to deliver the oil? With this EO, it seems the Government will confiscate oil from it's own citizens to cover up the "oil shortage" they will no doubt call it, without lifting the moratorium over the Gulf, or reversing the Pipeline decision.

    This frightens me!
    In layman's terms, BHO has used these last four years to become a dictator. Perhaps the construction equipment is meant for cleaning up debris from some sort of disaster? When I was in South Carolina, they sent out record books to all licensed drivers. You had to record your mileage and destination for a month. This was in 2009. My mother in law's best friend joined the Red Cross. She told my mother in law that her lawyer son had told her to do it so that she could cross state lines. The White House memo means that they can confiscate anyone's vehicles, food, medications, everything essentially. And, yes, that is very frightening indeed. I am so glad that I am a Christian and that God is in complete control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one4God View Post
    I have had a very strong feeling that there will be no vote or election day this year. Does anyone else feel the same way? I am so ready to go home, Lord Jesus, please come quickly.
    That same thought is starting to haunt my mind as well. Something is very wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoWolf View Post
    The major thing that strikes me is #6 the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials. Especially construction equipment.

    What is it that they want to build that they feel they must confiscate from existing business? Why can't the government get those construction materials on thier own? It wouldn't surprise me if they were to use this EO as a means to stockpile. Possibly create a situation where they confiscate everything needed for whatever they have in mind.

    I remember seeing a map Glenn Beck showed when I was still watching his show 2 years ago, that had a map of our nation's resources overlapped with a map of Government owned land. Most of the Government owned land was right on top of those resource sites. With all that in mind, this is quite troubling.

    Another thing, The other day I heard something about Obama releasing the Emergency Oil Reserves...I'm still looking into that, but #2 the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy

    My first thoughts about the release or possible release, as I keep finding conflicting reports, was what happens if after we have depleted the oil reserves we have (roughly 36 days of supply) Israel attack Iran or something happens where our imports of ME oil cannot get to our shores to deliver the oil? With this EO, it seems the Government will confiscate oil from it's own citizens to cover up the "oil shortage" they will no doubt call it, without lifting the moratorium over the Gulf, or reversing the Pipeline decision.

    This frightens me!
    Geowolf, if you can find out anything else about the Emergency Oil Reserves, please let me know. I am running out of energy tonight and all I'm finding a lot of info on are blogs, which are no-no's here and I completely understand why.
    I've been here a long time, but read more than post so it's a definately relief to know that it's not just me that is seeing that something very, very wrong with this.
    Praise God that He gives us peace even in troubling times. I am so very thankful that Jesus paid the price for me and am very thankful for His salvation when I did not deserve it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by one4God View Post
    I have had a very strong feeling that there will be no vote or election day this year. Does anyone else feel the same way? I am so ready to go home, Lord Jesus, please come quickly.
    You betcha, one4God! I have voiced this opinion many times over the past months--just ask my DH! He is beginning to agree with me, too! I just keep thinking "something" will cancel or delay the election. Martial law declared after a terrorist attack or civil unrest/riots, or a major natural disaster? or.... hopefully.... our departure!!!
    Now when these things begin to take place, look up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near Luke21:28




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    As has already ben stated by others, I'm so thankful we can have peace in the midst of such trying times. If it wasn't for my relationship with the Lord, I think I would be terrified these days.


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