Obama orders hospitals to grant same-sex couples visitation rights

[Megan]

President Obama on Thursday signed a memorandum requiring hospitals to allow gays and lesbians to have non-family visitors and to grant their partners medical power of attorney.

The president ordered the Department of Health and Human Services to prohibit discrimination in hospital visitation. The memo is scheduled to be made public Friday morning, according to an administration official and another source familiar with the White House decision.

An official said the new rule will affect any hospital that receives Medicare or Medicaid funding.

The decision injects the president squarely into the debate over gay marriage by attempting to end the common practice by many hospitals of insisting that only family members by blood or marriage be allowed to visit patients.

Gay activists have argued for years that recognizing gay marriages would ease the emotional pain associated with not being able to visit their partners during a health crisis.

By contrast, opponents of gay marriage have said the visitation issue is a red herring, and have argued that advocates want to provide special rights for gays and lesbians that others do not have.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...041505502.html

[yogi3939]

It just keeps getting worse...

By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post staff writer
Thursday, April 15, 2010; 7:50 PM

President Obama on Thursday signed a memorandum requiring hospitals to allow gays and lesbians to have non-family visitors and to grant their partners medical power of attorney.
The president ordered the Department of Health and Human Services to prohibit discrimination in hospital visitation. The memo is scheduled to be made public Friday morning, according to an administration official and another source familiar with the White House decision.

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[baileysmom]

They aren't family. They shouldn't have special privileges. What about the person's real family that might want to see them and not want to be around the so-called "partner"? Does REAL family not have any say-so or any rights? I might want to visit a good frined in the hospital, but if the hospital says relatives only -- and come on, most hospitals don't say that for regular illnesses, just sometimes for major illnesses when lots of visitors would be a burdon on the patient -- then I'm not going to be allowed in. Why are the gays and lesbians whining so much? It's no different. If the policy says relatives only, well, they aren't relatives. Perversion buddies, more like it. It's not as if most of them actually care about or love their "partners" anyway -- most of them have way more than just one.

[EarsToHear]

Homosexuals get to visit each other in the hospital before divorced people (with or without children) get to visit their ex-wives or ex-husbands?

[MrMannn]

An official said the new rule will affect any hospital that receives Medicare or Medicaid funding.

All religious hospitals will no longer take Medicare or medicaid patients.
Problem solved.

[ehbowen]

All religious hospitals will no longer take Medicare or medicaid patients.
Problem solved.

It will be an opportunity to see which 'religious' hospitals truly seek to serve the Savior...and which pay him lip service while actually worshiping at the altar of the almighty dollar.

[cocopea9052]

It is never going to end....Obama orders this....
-Obama told the world we won't have help for 72 hours if we have a nuclear attack
-Obama said he will keep the pressure on Israel and could care less with the Jews think
-Obama left without the media
-Obama barred the press from his news conference
-Obama told Canada to send us their uranium
-Obama gets his private army hidden in the healthcare bill
-Obama, Obama, Obama.....and on and on....and this was just this week!! Of what we know.....of what was reported.......

Seriously this man is so far out of control it's not even real...

[Olga]

I always thought it was wrong hospitals only let family see patients. I have friends that I care for every bit as much as family, and it would upset me a great deal if I wasn't allowed to see them.

No I think same-sex couple visitation rights are okay, but only because anyone should be able to have support from people they care about in hospitals, not because they're family.

[JoyfulSister]

I always thought it was wrong hospitals only let family see patients. I have friends that I care for every bit as much as family, and it would upset me a great deal if I wasn't allowed to see them.

No I think same-sex couple visitation rights are okay, but only because anyone should be able to have support from people they care about in hospitals, not because they're family.

Family first, and if the family agrees to allow others, that is up to them. This is mainly when the patient is having sever health/medical issues. Family & doctors are making important, private, healthcare decisions for the patient, they don't need any interference from others. As for the homosexuals, if one wants their homosexual partner to be in on health care decisions, then simple, go get power of attorney, fill out a living will, etc. This is just the homosexuals making more demands, and 0bama appeasing them.

[Lambeth]

I am actually pretty okay with this. It's a human right to see your loved one in the hospital, not a gay right.

[ThePenguin]

I am actually pretty okay with this. It's a human right to see your loved one in the hospital, not a gay right.

Having a same-sex partner violates God's Law, which overrides any man-made law.

[Lambeth]

Isn't god's law up to the interpretation of the individual?

[Reason&Hope]

I don't have a problem with a patient being able to determine who gets to visit them in the hospital.
I DO have a problem with the President making a blanket order like this.

This is just the first order. There will be others, from forcing nurses and doctors to participate in abortions to dictating who can get treated for what.

[ThePenguin]

Isn't god's law up to the interpretation of the individual?

No. There's only one interpretation of God's Law. If we stop relying on the Holy Spirit to reveal the meaning of Scripture to us then moral relativism creeps in and pretty soon everybody's interpretation of morals and values is right.

[Lambeth]

No. There's only one interpretation of God's Law. If we stop relying on the Holy Spirit to reveal the meaning of Scripture to us then moral relativism creeps in and pretty soon everybody's interpretation of morals and values is right.

Oh

I guess I can't argue with that.

[MrMannn]

I am actually pretty okay with this. It's a human right to see your loved one in the hospital, not a gay right.

Isn't god's law up to the interpretation of the individual?

Violation of multiple rules.
[04] Defend the Faith and God's infallible Word, not the ways of the world, homosexuality, liberalism, socialism,
[05] Do not promote unscriptural ideologies.
[13]No liberal left wing political agendas

[EarsToHear]

[Readytorun]

I'm not trolling, I just genuinely want to know what you think of that comic. I came here to be enlightened, not pushed away.

[EarsToHear]

Hello, Readyto run.

This was your first post. If you're not trolling, why would you post such a comic and not know what Christians would think about it?

What do you think about it?

Since you came here to be enlightened, the question was asked in the wrong forum. It needed to be discussed in Apologetics.

[MrMannn]

I'm not trolling, I just genuinely want to know what you think of that comic. I came here to be enlightened, not pushed away.

For your enlightenment. What the God has to say about homosexuality.

From Leviticus to the Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, God has been consistent about how He felt about homosexuality. But it fits into a nutshell right here in Corinthians.

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

The Word is clear. Unrepentant (practicing) homosexuals who die in their sin, GO TO HELL. They can go to church, they can call themselves a Christian...but if they are practicing homosexuals when they die--they will spend eternity in Hell.

This passage lists a number of sins that offer the same consequences for unrepentance. An unrepentant thief goes straight to hell as well.

BUT, no other sin listed in that passage has a number of followers out to forcibly legalize their sin-calling sin a civil right.

When Jesus stopped the stoning of the adulteress, He told her to. "Go and sin no more." Repentance doesn't mean perfection, or a lack of struggle...The sin must stop! If a gay or lesbian isn't even attempting to stop the sin-They will burn: end of story.

The Bible is not a politically correct document. God doesn’t care about the opinions of kings or pop culture. The Bible is God’s divine revelation to man. A person does not get to pick and chose which of God’s Words he wants to believe. It’s all or nothing. Being a fundamentalist is believing that God meant what He said.

The bottom line is this: Jesus can transform you into a new being. If He can take a drunkard from this list and give that person the strength to throw off the chains of addiction, so God can transform the homosexual. It’s not by your strength, but by His.