Catholics Come Home Commercial

[HugsFromJesus]

One in ten Americans is an exCatholic.

For every convert to the Catholic Church, four walk out the back door.

I am just getting around to reading some old threads in the middle of the night and this was worth it all.

I was never Catholic but many members of my family married Catholics and raised their kids Catholic.

I have never seen this "Catholics Come Home", but I am thrilled that this amount of people are leaving the Catholic church, but who in the world are the ones that are walking IN the door?

[HugsFromJesus]

I have been studying Catholism (curious) and I watch The Journey Home with Marcus Grodi on EWTN. I am amazed at the people that leave the CC, then return and I am amazed at the Evangelicals that convert. I watch it only because it interest me as to where they went wrong.

The thing that is the deal breaker with most of them is the Euchurist. They are enamored with eating Jesus. I have come to the conclusion that these people that keep saying they were saved by being born again but then converted to Catholism were never saved to begin with or else they would be able to distinguish between the Holy Spirit and a wafer.

The people that are guests on the program research like there is no tomorrow before they finally make the decision to return or convert to the CC. I can understand people leaving the CC but I am amazed at how many are returning. I have heard it said here at RR that for every new Catholic that comes in the front door, 4 go out the back. Maybe I have my doors mixed up but it is 4 going to 1 coming. I also read Catholic. com and they have tons of members and they are a confused bunch. They really don't know alot of things for sure, they guess alot, but I have to say, many people are converting back or converting to the CC.

Today I was talking to my mom and I told her the Pope was looking frail. She is 87. She said, "I don't even know what the man looks like so I wouldn't know".....for some reason that made me laugh because whenever I try to say anything to my Catholic family (they married into it) she always tells me to be quiet and stop causing trouble and that I don't know what I am talking about. That is why I have been studying. My mom is born again, I just see alot of confusion setting in.

I think the scariest thing is my sister who is not Catholic is mad that purgatory is going away as she wants to spend time there as she thinks she isn't worthy of being in God's presence as she is. Yep, she married a Catholic and raised her son Catholic but she doesn't know much about Catholism at all, I am trying to teach her but she thinks I am making things up. I asked her what her husband believes and she said "I have no idea, we don't talk about that stuff." They have been married 35 years. Unbelievable! But my brother in law had Cancer and he didn't tell my sister that either. He doesn't talk. I have to say, they are out everyday doing unto others, helping someone all the time. Since my sister just follows my brother in law when they are together (she adores him) I have a feeling he is into "works". I once asked him and he said there are many paths to God. That is all I got out of him. He is also a Eurcharist minister for the shut -ins.

I don't know why I even posted this, I am just disgusted with all Catholics the more I study their doctrines. I have to say I am amazed as to what I have learned and what I had no idea about. If you don't grow up Catholic, you just don't know the difference.

I try to pray but I am just plain disgusted, that is not a nice way to be. Lord, I am sorry, I need your help.

This is a mad mad mad world!!!

[Sandee]

Seems to me that the answer is the end times delusion. Pull out your heavy ammunition, get down and pray for them. I do agree with you.

It looks to me like the Catholic Religion is part of the Tribulation Whore's religion. Chrislam is disgusting also, and that is one of the things I remember the Pope teaching.

[Raphael]

One of the reasons certain folks return to the RCC is probably television. There are Catholic networks. Though Jesus said, "When you pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they will be heard by their much speaking", you can watch Sister somebody leading the "Hail Mary, full of grace" chant seemingly endlessly on TV. Throw in a few reasonably cogent remarks and down-to-earth humor from the same person, and you have a sale.

Satan has always had a stronghold within the RCC, so don't feel it's your fault if, after having presented Truth, your seed falls on stony ground.

[Wally]

They just can't comprehend Grace and;


Hebrews 10:11–13 NKJV

11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.
12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God,
13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool.

[OnceWasLost]

Speaking as a former catholic and most of my family is still trapped in that mess, there are several reasons IMO for staying and going back. The catholic faith operates on fear, fear of leaving the only true church as they say. The modern times are filled with great trouble and people are looking for answers, and they don't fully realize it. There sre just so many people troubled by daily reports of war, death, financial despair, etc. People are looking for comfort and peace of mind, so they go to what seems stable.

Add in the fact that the mega church, watered down protestantism gives nobody a reason to stay and you have the perfect storm. Since you have family in it, you see the fear that is leveled at the person who questions. "How dare you question, catholocism is older than them all" or some such silliness. The way my family reacted when I came to know Jesus was pretty odd along those lines, it was as though I had joined a cult and needed an intervention. My father wanted me to go meet with a priest before it was too late, as though I was destined to hell.

They are trapped, never questioning, never verifying, never evaluating the claims of their dogma, they are just dutiful adherents. Typical catholocism is filled with church mandates, mindlessly do this and do that, look busy God is watching, be good etc. There is zero personal study or appeal to holiness as led by The Holy Spirit. No call to repentance and a realization of the personal, substitutionary atonement of Jesus. No exploration of what it means to be Born Again, and the animated life that will produce. The orders to the Spirit led believer comes from the top, and The Holy spirit leads us independent of any church. In catholocism the church is the top, and they dictate what is to be believed.

Simply stated, to the subjects enslaved to the catholic church it is the be all end all for all matters of life (here and hereafter) and faith. It is a perfect recipe for people looking for peace of mind to come under control of a strongman.

[Tall Timbers]

I understand the leaving... and there are probably lots of reasons for coming back, but I really have a hard time figuring out why someone who attended evangelical churches deciding to join the catholic church. Even a basic understanding of the Word of God should lead someone to realize the falsehoods of the catholic faith while they're going through the program required to become catholic.

[Shonsu]

Speaking as a former catholic and most of my family is still trapped in that mess, there are several reasons IMO for staying and going back. The catholic faith operates on fear, fear of leaving the only true church as they say. The modern times are filled with great trouble and people are looking for answers, and they don't fully realize it. There sre just so many people troubled by daily reports of war, death, financial despair, etc. People are looking for comfort and peace of mind, so they go to what seems stable.

Add in the fact that the mega church, watered down protestantism gives nobody a reason to stay and you have the perfect storm. Since you have family in it, you see the fear that is leveled at the person who questions. "How dare you question, catholocism is older than them all" or some such silliness. The way my family reacted when I came to know Jesus was pretty odd along those lines, it was as though I had joined a cult and needed an intervention. My father wanted me to go meet with a priest before it was too late, as though I was destined to hell.

They are trapped, never questioning, never verifying, never evaluating the claims of their dogma, they are just dutiful adherents. Typical catholocism is filled with church mandates, mindlessly do this and do that, look busy God is watching, be good etc. There is zero personal study or appeal to holiness as led by The Holy Spirit. No call to repentance and a realization of the personal, substitutionary atonement of Jesus. No exploration of what it means to be Born Again, and the animated life that will produce. The orders to the Spirit led believer comes from the top, and The Holy spirit leads us independent of any church. In catholocism the church is the top, and they dictate what is to be believed.

Simply stated, to the subjects enslaved to the catholic church it is the be all end all for all matters of life (here and hereafter) and faith. It is a perfect recipe for people looking for peace of mind to come under control of a strongman.

Like you, I am a former Catholic. What you said is certainly the truth. Another reason (and I think a fairly big one) that people stay or return to Catholicism is that it is an "easy" religion. Just partake in the sacraments, go to church a Sunday or two a month (stand up, sit down, kneel), and you are golden! You don't have to study the bible or change your life or anything like that. And when you die, you will "most likely" go to heaven. Easy right?!

[Xenosjeff]

OWL, I think you nailed a lot of the functional reality of the RC experience.

I also am a former RC, and see the struggle first hand in my immediate family.

So many people lack the depth and the quiet attention to truth. Too many distractions, too much media, going a thousand miles an hour headed nowhere....

The way I see someone, if they go back into the RCC, is the seed that was planted on rocky soil.

Also there is an undercurrent of attitudes and "they think" that are forming opinions and peoples character that is very persuasive. Take the movie Avatar as an example of the effect and attitudes that media can inject into the mainstream flow of thought. The goddess of the world Pandora is there to touch and see, no real faith or understanding required. You are just a part of a natural system of energy and consciousness. It feels like you belong, it feels safe, you can touch it, see it and go hook your braid thingy directly to a tree and off you go.

The god of this world has a very similar plan. He formed a religion where you can be part of an system that has things you can do to help god out. You also have something to touch and see that allows you to focus on the thing and hold god in your hand and then eat him. It's all right in front of you. A system that can give people enough shiny things and distractions to get over their emotional hump and into a comfortable place of numb ignorance.

The reality of the Christ I met is very different. The Christ I met through His word offered me eternity for accepting His sacrifice. He did not offer me eternity by my sacrifice and effort. My Jesus didn't tell me to be under the authority of a Roman Pontiff. My Jesus is the Rock, not Peter. My Jesus is at the right hand of the Father as Preist, Prophet and King, interceding for me. My Jesus is the way the truth and the life. My Jesus is the "door", He didn't just open the door so I could fight my way through. My Jesus paid for all of my sins. I will see Jesus when I die, instantly in His presence. My Jesus presented Himself ONCE to the Father as a perfect ONCE for all sacrifice, not just for my sins but for all the sins of those who had died in faith looking forward to the Messiah. My Jesus is not the Roman Catholic Jesus hanging dead on a crucifix.

My Jesus gave His life for me on a cross, beaten and seperated from God for the first time in eternity so that I could be forgiven by that ONE perfect act of love. For anyone to say that His gift was not enough or it needs to be re-presented in order to be effective should get on their knees before the cross, look up at Jesus in agony and just scream out at Him, "It's not enough". I have to do pennance and get baptized and earn grace through sacraments, never have a mortal sin on my account, go to confession, pay for venial sins in pergatory, get indulgences...... STOP, STOP, STOP.

Roman Catholic, hear this word now, Repent of these things now. The religion of Rome will not get you to heaven. Don't believe me, just believe Jesus! It is by belief and faith in Jesus, not religion, that you are saved. Read His word, Read the Gospel of John, pray for God to be with you and test this by His word, not mine.

Jeff

[Xenosjeff]

Jesus Himself laid down His life and offered up His body to the Father. He was the only one worthy to do so. There is no person with the credentials or ability to go before God in His very presence with any sacrifice other than Jesus. The unique and perfect sacrifice of Jesus is impossible to re-present because ONLY Jesus could present it! Even the High Priest of the Jews could only offer a covering that needed repeated yearly. Therefore the re-presentation of the Mass is not possible because nobody could be worthy to present what only Jesus could give.
Since the Mass is not presenting Jesus, what does this look like in God's eyes? They are presenting as a sacrifice, an object made by human hands that is supposed to be viewed as God? At best this is an abomination in God's eyes, idolotry in it's most pure form, worshiping, honorong, bowing down to ,perpetually adoring a dead object. Replacing the true God of the Bible in His power and perfection with an idol served by a false priest. Hard but true, true and deadly if you cannot bend your pride to see for yourself, the truth of God's warnings.

Unto My Father I commit MY Spirit.............Only Jesus could.

Only Jesus could offer up the sacrifice before God the Father. Only Jesus was worthy. He did it ONCE for all time. There is no need to repeat what was perfect.

One point in time was the focus of all of the faithful, looking forwards and back at the ONLY sacrifice that could pay for all of the sins of the world.


The logic of Rome misses the truth of salvation through faith in Jesus. He has always been the same. Did Abraham need the Pope to secure and guide his faith? I don't, neither do you! Only the Blood of Jesus!

Jeff

[Mom2ten]

I was raised Catholic and my dad was very ticked at me for leaving the church. He was a life long alcoholic who depended on the church getting him into purgatory. I see alot of Catholics doing their so called good works, yet live lives that are awful...swearing, drinking/drugs, ect. It's sad.

[KissyLoves]

Have y'all seen this?




I can't get it to load properly... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WujKBJc_yMg

[IMSAVED]

Catholics are deceived.They can have all the commercials they want.Their are many Catholics I work with and many do not have a clue of what true Christianity is all about.

[HumbleBerean]

Ive heard it and cringe every time I do. It is false on so many levels. One of the most egregious might be when they say they gave us the bible. Yeah, the same bible you hid, tried to destroy, and murdered people for possessing or teaching out of it? My home is in heaven not Rome, thank you.

Brannon Howse breaks it down at the end of his show with Chris Pinto
http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worl...pisodeid=20343

[Sparkles]

I am ex catholic. I have had to go to catholic church for about 3 funerals since being born again. All I can say is I was literally ILL in my stomache on reentering the catholic church. The Holy Spirit opened my eyes to the brainwashing and idol worship of it all. I have a VERY hard time understanding how someone who is truly born again can go back to the catholic church with all its man made rules and repetitive praying when the Bible is so clear on these things. The reason the Catholic church doesn't want its members to read the Bible is because they are worried the people will see the truth thus losing the mind control and their money . Isn't covering up for numerous pedophiles reason enough to leave! How much more do people have to see before they realize THEY are paying for this!!! ugggggg soo aggravating

[Xenosjeff]

Had to go to a Christmas eve service and all it did was harden my resolve. My children also got to see again what they left and it disgusted them. Phoney baloney, prideful, out of context ,do nothing religious nonsense.

I asked my kids what they saw. My 13 year old snapped off about three things that were unbiblical in a row. I then asked if they heard the Gospel, both thought about it and said "nothing even close".

But ask a RC what they saw and you would get an intro to "Religious formulas". Well you see the actual Gospel is, blah blah lived out through obedience blah to blah Rome sheparding the flock blah. Leave it to Papa Blah, eat the actual divinity blah, earn grace bleep blah snurff from the stored up foozle bank.

No wonder I left. It's so obviously out of line with faith in Jesus and knowing God.

Jeff

[macrohard]

Seems like we have a lot of former Catholics in the thread, myself included.

I stopped going myself to RCC when I was 15 years old, had a wild period till I was 22, and have been saved by Jesus ever since. (Now I have the grey hairs)

My family on both my Mom and Dad's side was predominately Catholic. My memory of it was like being in an infinite computer loop, doing the same thing over and over and over again. When my family was invited by one of my cousin's to attend her church for her daughters confirmation, it was like I never forgot anything, that it how ingrained it was (the Liturgy).

But regardless of how bad it may get within today's churches, I will not go back to the RCC. If I have to do it Chinese-style and have a house church, then I will.

[Mitsy]

There are many Catholics out there that haven't got much of a clue at all about what the Bible teaches let alone what their Church teaches.

It is sad that they just trust the Catholic Priest and don't look into anything for themselves.

[Craisin]

that's a very long commercial with very good and clear video footage. I'm surprised they didn't say that they are also the richest institution in the world, and their relics alone could probably get all the nations out of the debt they're in today.

Ah the Catholic church.

[Momma D]

I did see it, and was totally shocked: my answer...no thanks. Been there, never doing that again.
I found the Truth, and it was not in the RCC!