Emergent and John 14:6 denier Doug Pagitt shows his true character

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DOUG PAGITT SHOWS HIS CHARACTER
By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Jan 3, 2011 in AM Missives, Current Issues, Doug Pagitt, Emergence Christianity, Emergent Church, Features, Youth Ministry

Critics of online apologetics and discernment works such as Apprising Ministries are under the mistaken impression that someone like myself goes “looking for” these issues I’ve been covering these past 5+ years as Jesus has built this ministry of His Gospel. They couldn’t be more wrong.

What usually happens is I’ll receive an email or message from the contact forms, ether here or at our sister outreach Christian Research Network, where oftentimes someone is distraught to find these kind of things are being perpetrated within their local church.

Jesus knows I tell the truth when I say that I don’t take pleasure in documenting this growing falling away of the mainstream evangelical community; yet I have warned you that there is a tsunami of apostasy—pushed along by 1 Peter 4:17 judgments—headed toward the church visible.

Not a few of these judgments have come through evanjellyfish’s foolish embrace of the sinfully ecumenical Emergent Church, headed by the unholy trinity of apostates, Living Spiritual Teacher and EC guru Brian McLaren, universalist Emerging Church pastor Doug Pagitt, and his friend Tony Jones, the progressive “theologian in residence” at Solomon’s Porch.

Today Doug Pagitt reacted to criticism of his theology I had written in Michael Dowd And Doug Pagitt Of The Emerging Church; and in typical fashion, rather than deal with the substance of my article he instead chose to accuse me of slander. In order to clear my name I clearly documented my legitimate Biblical criticism of Pagitt’s heretical teachings in Doug Pagitt And Alleged Slander.

But here is the only response Doug Pagitt chose to make This is what is feels like talking to Ken Silva, where he says, “I was in an a twitter conversation with Ken Silva while my son was watching Dodgeball. I felt like my conversation was happening in two realms.”[1]

Then he offered this lame video as an ad hominem, since it seems to be the extent of his ability to prove his position from Scripture:




Finally Pagitt tells us:

Here is Ken’s site where is goes on and on about me (I’m not suggesting you read it, but some may be able to handle it).http://apprising.org/2011/01/03/doug...leged-slander/

If you read Ken’s post then consider John O’Keefe’s suggestion that we be called the “cult of Jokey Jokers”. (Online source)

The only cult here is the postmodern liberalism Doug Pagitt is caught up in, which quite obviously he can’t defend with the Bible. My research stands, and as I told Doug Pagitt in his combox:




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MICHAEL DOWD AND DOUG PAGITT OF THE EMERGING CHURCH
By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Jan 3, 2011 in AM Missives, Current Issues, Doug Pagitt, Emergence Christianity, Emergent Church, Features, Youth Ministry

The Lord be praised that He has seen fit to open the door for Apprising Ministries to have become one of the leading voices against the sinfully ecumenical Emergent Church aka the Emerging Church, a neo-liberal cult now operating within mainstream evangelicalism.

Its primary legacy is that through its core doctrine of corrupt Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism (CSM), masquerading as spurious Spiritual Formation ala Living Spiritual Teacher and Quaker mystic Richard Foster and his spiritual twin Dallas Willard, the Emergent Church leaders have been quite successful in taking the focus off proper Christian spirituality; and instead putting it upon mere subjective feelings.

While this was going on, circa the late 90′s, foolish evangelical leaders made the tragic decision to begin using these warped and toxic teachings within their own Young Adult and Youth ministries; and thereby opening them to a veritable who’s who of heresy, including the unholy EC trinity of apostates, Living Spiritual Teacher and EC guru Brian McLaren, universalist EC pastor Doug Pagitt, and his friend Tony Jones, the progressive “theologian in residence” at Solomon’s Porch headed by Pagitt.

You should know that this upgraded Emerging Church 2.0 now has in place its new postmodern form of “big tent” Progressive Christianity—a Liberalism 2.0—sometimes referred to as Emergence Christianity. Here’s another example of the fetid fruit of this counter-Reformation spirituality that’s now spread deeply into squishy evanjellyfish through the evolution of this postmodern liberalism.

In posts like Michael Dowd & Spencer Burke—Integrity And Evolutionary Christianity (Part 2), Michael Dowd And Science Fiction Christianity, and Mental Off-Roading Radio With Doug Pagitt And Michael Dowd I’ve introduced you to Rev. Michael Dowd, whom I first brought to your attention in Jesus Died For Our Reptilian Brain.

Now I point you to his The Advent of Evolutionary Christianity blog and Dowd’s post Doug Pagitt: Postmodern Evangelicalism Emerging:



But as I told Michael Dowd, whether it goes online or not, is:



Dowd goes on to tell us information, which only serves to further confirm these men worship a god other than the on true and living God of the Bible:




Straight in line with my article Toxic Theology Of Doug Pagitt, Pagitt’s far from right concerning the Christian faith. As one reviewer of one of the books written by Doug Pagitt, specifically A Christianity Worth Believing: Hope-filled, Open-armed, Alive-and-well Faith for the Left Out, Left Behind, and Let Down in us All i.e. universalism, put it:

What Christianity has Pagitt presented us? We are taught that sin isn’t a serious issue, that Jesus was simply an example of what we’re meant to do, that the crucifixion wasn’t necessary in the long run, that the afterlife isn’t important, and that we can learn a lot more from holistic medicine than we can the Bible. At what point does this become Christianity? How can this be Christianity? The role of Christ is diminished and our role with God is simply played out in a post-modern ideal that borders along pantheism. You can call it spirituality, but you can’t call it Christianity. (Online source)

Um yeah, Iguess other than that, this would be a good book for your evangelical Youth and Young Adults to read, eh. O, and Fuller Theological Seminary thinks that’s a-ok as well, which you can see from Fuller Seminary Promoting Emerging Church Heretic Doug Pagitt. And how about the “Christianity” taught by Michael Dowd; try the following from his key presentation “Evolutionize Your Life: Heaven Is Coming Home To Reality” where Dowd dreams:

[F]rankly, I don’t know of any Christian, Muslim, or Jew, that is genuinely appreciative of their sinful nature; and yet, that’s what an evolutionary understanding gives us. Is we can have appreciation [of it]… And you’ve got these hundreds of differing, competing, contrdictory, stories about what God said or did; that if you interpret God as a Person, you can’t make sense of those.

But when you understand, from an evolutionary perspective, that all cultures have personified Reality; either Reality as a whole—or some significant aspect of Reality. And personification is one of the things that our brains do…when we remember that “God” is a sacred, meaningful, personification—not a person—all of a sudden, not only does that make sense of all the world’s religious traditions—and their differences—but it also allows us to see that there’s no conflict between science and religion… Nothing is driving young people away from God—away from a right relationship with Reality—faster, and further, than the Bible.

I tell you now in the Lord, if you actually think what you just read is even remotely Christian, then you seriously need to have your spiritual head examined. This includes Doug Pagitt who’s spiritually obtuse enough to say of heretical his apostate friend Michael Dowd:

I like what he’s up to…he’s written a book called, Thank God for Evolution and his argument is that there’s this big thing going on in the larger story of the cosmos and that it’s not at all inconsistent with Christianity; it’s not all inconsistent with the Hebrew faith, it’s not at all inconsistent with the other great faiths of the world.

Did you catch that; Pagitt likes “what [Dowd's] up to”; and, rather amazingly, in addition he apparently even thinks that what I just showed you above from Dowd’s teachings is “not at all inconsistent with Christianity.” In closing this, for now, Dowd’s concept of “God” is as an impersonal force i.e. Reality evolving as the universe. Do I think Doug Pagitt has become a evolutionary pantheist like Michael Dowd; no, at least not yet.

But I will say, it’s well past time for evangelical leaders to grow a spiritual spine and start pinning down these leaders in the Emerging Church like Doug Pagitt—


published by evangelical publishing houses—as to what they actually believe.

If not, then their own reality is going to involve sailing upon some very rough spiritual waters…

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