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    I really think she's damned to hell. My mother is heartbroken about it. Right now I'm discusted, all though I know I'll become sad.

    My sister, although she professes to be an atheist, has been interested in eastern religious things for a long time. Not actually following the "religion" or anything but like she has a lot of buddhist decorations in her house.

    But then last night we all met at golden corral for dinner and...she has a new tattoo. She has several and everyone in the family hates them but this is too much. On her forearm she has a buddhist "god"!!! It's an elephant with a bunch of arms. Right there where anyone can see it.

    Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, died for her sins and mine and she just SPIT in His Face! I'm so discusted I want to vomit! I'm really feeling led to cut off all ties with her. She may be my sister and we are all sinners but she's happily breaking Commandments right and left. now she has put a graven image, an idol, on her arm.

    Please help me decide what to do. I'm beside myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nursingmom View Post
    I really think she's damned to hell. My mother is heartbroken about it. Right now I'm disgusted, all though I know I'll become sad.

    My sister, although she professes to be an atheist, has been interested in eastern religious things for a long time. Not actually following the "religion" or anything but like she has a lot of buddhist decorations in her house.

    But then last night we all met at golden corral for dinner and...she has a new tattoo. She has several and everyone in the family hates them but this is too much. On her forearm she has a buddhist "god"!!! It's an elephant with a bunch of arms. Right there where anyone can see it.

    Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, died for her sins and mine and she just SPIT in His Face! I'm so disgusted I want to vomit! I'm really feeling led to cut off all ties with her. She may be my sister and we are all sinners but she's happily breaking Commandments right and left. now she has put a graven image, an idol, on her arm.

    Please help me decide what to do. I'm beside myself.
    She is simply lost, no reason to break off anything with her. She has the image yes, but God has not given up on her, it is never too late. You cutting your ties is exactly what the devil would love, then you are the fundie kook and she can feel vindicated for all she has ever said.

    I know a guy with a wizard tattoo, he got it years ago, and then got saved. All of what's going on is a symptom of a larger disease, she is unsaved. What God would like is level headed, reasonable believers to stand as a witness until we die or He takes us home.
    There is One King, and He is not this guy.

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    Don't ever stop praying for her and love her. You don't have to cut off ties with her because of what she believes. I know it is frustrating. I have an atheist/agnostic brother who I really allowed to get to me early on in my walk, but I have come to realize that all you can do is pray for them, love them, and give the worry to God. Let your life be a witness to her and your words only when she asks for them.

    One last thing. I know the tattoo makes your skin crawl, but to her it is not a graven image because she does not believe as we do. We can't expect others who don't believe as we do to follow our rules, so to speak. Again, love her and pray for her

    Take a deep breath. Her images are hers:they do not reflect on you. She is lost, and her choices are hers. While there is breath left in her body, there is still hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nursingmom View Post
    She may be my sister and we are all sinners but she's happily breaking Commandments right and left.
    That's what sinners do.

    Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, died for her sins and mine and she just SPIT in His Face! I'm so discusted I want to vomit! I'm really feeling led to cut off all ties with her.
    You will be frustrated with her actions if you expect her, as a non-Christian, to live as a Christian. She doesn't have the Holy Spirit, she doesn't have the power nor the will to do that. Stop having those expectations of her.

    The Bible says we are not to judge the world as they are already damned. We can/must only judge those in the Church.

    Doesn't it break your heart that she is lost, as it does your mother? Pray for her salvation, keep praying, love her unconditionally and pray.

    The only unforgivable sin is the one of unbelief in Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nursingmom View Post
    Please help me decide what to do. I'm beside myself.
    IMO you need to calm down a bit and don't give up on her so easily.

    If this was your child, would you "damn her to hell"? I hope not. She's still God's child (albeit a wild one) and He hasn't given up on her yet - He loves her too much for that. So don't give up on her so easily, and don't give up on God so easily. Keep praying for her and loving her.

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    My daughter is a believer, although some of her actions are questionable and I pray for her all the time. She had a cross and the Hebrew letters for Gd tattooed on her forearm. Now it's not offensive to me as a Christian. It is offensive to Hebrew Jews and to Muslims. She really did it in memory of her father who was a devout Christian. My point is, pray for your sister's salvation and never give up on her or any member of your family. Family is so important to God. I personally go by the Levitical law in 17 or 19 that prohibits tattooing. It's about our need for a Savior, it could be worse.
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    As others have said, the tattoo is hardly an unforgivable sin. Yeah it's ugly, but it's just a symptom of how lost she is. Keep praying for her, don't break things off with her. As long as she's alive, there's still hope.

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    She's lost, and starving to death. She wants HIM; not that fake stuff.

    She's like a starving person, eating out of a dumpster of bad theology, when God has a whole salvation feast not 3 feet away.

    Pity her. Pray for her. Love her.

    BTW, I though the elephant god was hindu? Ganesh?

    I had a hardcore wiccan posting on my blog; I did my best to show her God's love.

    Her last post, she got saved. I can tell she has fruits because she is already working on profanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acts5:41 View Post

    I had a hardcore wiccan posting on my blog; I did my best to show her God's love.

    Her last post, she got saved. I can tell she has fruits because she is already working on profanity.

    "I knew you were praying for me every day, Heather." What a tremendous honor to pray for the lost!
    Heather, how exciting this must have been for you to know you had a part in her salvation. You are such a delight to God and to us. I read your blog and I pray for you. I don't think you realize how much you inspire people to get out there to reach the lost. I think the thing that I have learned from you the most is that you do it with such love and without judgement. I always love to hear about your big Bible handouts, the "How many?" and the "I'll be praying for you". It is your Spirit that people can see and you make them want what you have. God gave you the gift of evangelism and you use it all the time to glorify Him. God loves you Heather and so do we!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acts5:41 View Post
    BTW, I though the elephant god was hindu? Ganesh?
    I thought so too. I didn't know Buddhists worshipped elephants......

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    Quote Originally Posted by nursingmom View Post
    I really think she's damned to hell. My mother is heartbroken about it. Right now I'm discusted, all though I know I'll become sad.

    My sister, although she professes to be an atheist, has been interested in eastern religious things for a long time. Not actually following the "religion" or anything but like she has a lot of buddhist decorations in her house.

    But then last night we all met at golden corral for dinner and...she has a new tattoo. She has several and everyone in the family hates them but this is too much. On her forearm she has a buddhist "god"!!! It's an elephant with a bunch of arms. Right there where anyone can see it.

    Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, died for her sins and mine and she just SPIT in His Face! I'm so discusted I want to vomit! I'm really feeling led to cut off all ties with her. She may be my sister and we are all sinners but she's happily breaking Commandments right and left. now she has put a graven image, an idol, on her arm.

    Please help me decide what to do. I'm beside myself.
    You have been given some great advice from some very wise teachers. I understand how you feel and it is frustrating. I have been told by family members that when I think of myself as a sinner, it is just negative thinking. I have been told that if I think everyone is NOT going to Heaven, I am limiting God at what He can do.

    I used to get so upset that it would eat me away. Then I realized I was only responsible for planting the seed, my job was done and I can now turn them over to God and pray for them. Sometimes it is not easy to be around them. I love them so much, but in truth, I want to be around people that I can shout from the rooftops about Jesus and they are right next to me wanting to do the same thing.

    I would never think of disowning any members of my family. At one time I was getting so disgusted that I didn't want to be around them as I felt they were dragging me down more that I was lifting them up and I didn't like the feeling. But, I have grown since then, I know they are lost and I have to accept that and know that there is always hope as long as they are living and breathing.

    We all have people in our lives that are lost and it is not easy, but we have to keep shining among them every chance we get. I still have trouble with it, but my goal is for them to want what I have. I don't see them alot and I really don't think they even understand who I truly am, but with God's help, I am trying more and more to show them in the most loving way possible.

    We are all God's work in progress, we just have to learn to surrender to Him each and everyday. When we do that we can quiet the mumble jumble in our heads so we can hear Him more clearly.

    I will be praying for your sister, you and your family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nursingmom View Post
    I really think she's damned to hell. My mother is heartbroken about it. Right now I'm discusted, all though I know I'll become sad.

    My sister, although she professes to be an atheist, has been interested in eastern religious things for a long time. Not actually following the "religion" or anything but like she has a lot of buddhist decorations in her house.

    But then last night we all met at golden corral for dinner and...she has a new tattoo. She has several and everyone in the family hates them but this is too much. On her forearm she has a buddhist "god"!!! It's an elephant with a bunch of arms. Right there where anyone can see it.




    Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, died for her sins and mine and she just SPIT in His Face! I'm so discusted I want to vomit! I'm really feeling led to cut off all ties with her. She may be my sister and we are all sinners but she's happily breaking Commandments right and left. now she has put a graven image, an idol, on her arm.

    Please help me decide what to do. I'm beside myself.

    I don't think shutting her out and cutting all ties with her would be good for either of you. Just keep showing God's love to her through your life and you could be the one who finally gets through to her. Please don't give up. I don't have a sister and my only brother died almost 11 years ago. If I was in your place, I wouldn't give up.
    God bless you and your mother and give both of you strength to keep believing that your sister will come to a saving knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

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    You have been given great advice. Let me give you a "different" perspective or way to see it.

    When I started to Church at CCFL, I was saved and growing in the Lord. But one of the first things that just totally amazed me there was this guy that attended there. He had tattoos ALL OVER, long hair, etc.. about 60ish.. but you know what was amazing... to see Him raise His hands during worship, to praise the Lord and to know he belonged to Him. It was so encouraging. BEcause one look at him, and you KNEW he came from a "hard" background. It was a very visible sign of how God can work in even the toughest of hearts. Then I looked around and saw a few more w/ the same outward appearance.. but they worshiped and loved the Lord like no others during the church service. I ended up being friends with this brother, went to his bible study, met alot of other good friends, eventually married and we took over his bible study when he moved.

    All that to say... that ugly tattoo your sister is sporting could be the very thing that God uses to bring others to Him and to be amazed at His power in someone's life. Especially if it is visible and she evertually raises her arms to worship the King of Kings. I hope this makes sense. Let it go, keep praying for her and witnessing His light to her. As long as she has breath, it is never too late.

    As a side note: This friend of mine ought to travel the country and walk into alot of these little southern baptist properly dressed churches and shake them up a bit! Yep, God definitely looks on the inside, not the outside! And I for one am so thankful He does.
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    Eating at the Golden Corral was your first mistake.

    In all seriousness I know family members can sometimes make us the most angry.

    But we will be amazed at some of the people in heaven and some of the people that don't make heaven. None of us deserve heaven. God's grace is an amazing thing! It is unmerited favor that we all receive.

    Keep praying and keep loving her. You may be her best chance to see the love of God in action.
    Jesus is coming now at "Any Moment"! Are you ready?

    Romans 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

    Praying for the Peace of Jerusalem. Amen.

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    So... Nursingmom...

    I've seen you around the forum since you posted about your sister, but you haven't come back to thank anyone for their comments or address anything said here.

    What do you think of the advice you've gotten so far?

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    I understand how you feel. My sister is agnostic and she has some tattoos I don't like. Her husband has a tattoo of a devil cheerleader among other disgusting pieces. It' s heartbreaking but I just hope and pray she comes to Jesus soon. Don't give up on your sister. She needs someone to continue to show her Jesus' love.

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    Sorry Nightelf and everyone, I surf a lot on my iPhone but I prefer to not
    post from it...as soon as I get my littlest to sleep I'll power up my laptop and reply...you've given me so much to ponder

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    To Sunshine 2727, just wanted you to know your story warmed my heart. I love seeing how God's love makes us new creations

    To Nursing Mom, your Sis doesn't have the ability to live a Christian life outside of a relationship with Jesus. Love her to Him. Go yell in your pillow when you get home if you need to but love her

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    I feel your pain, I have a brother who is agnostic and it's really hard to deal with sometimes.. he has caused a lot of pain to my family and I get angry with him sometimes but he is still my brother and I still love him, and don't want to see him in hell...

    My advice would be not to give up on your sister, or cut ties with her, that will only make her angry and harden her heart to God even more... pray for her, and be a good and faithful witness to her.. I will be praying too, for you and for her!!

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    Ok...little mister is finally asleep! Praise God!

    Thank you so much for the replies. I agree, now that I've had a chance to cool off and think (I'm still working on my temper...God hasn't delivered me from that yet!) that I shouldn't cut her out of my life. I struggle, though, because her behavior is so upsetting to the rest of the family and I worry about knowingly exposing my kids to some of her beliefs. Still, what many have said about letting God work through me, living my testimony, makes complete sense. Also Jesus spent time with tax collectors and other sinners...I need to look to Him for guidance and not get 'in the flesh'. Jesus loved me when I wasn't worth loving, praise God!

    HugsFromJesus, your posts in particular spoke to my heart. Thank you so much. Everyone else, also. My sister is a real source of stress in my life, it's so wonderful to be able to pray with you all about her.

    Heavenly Father, please open my sister's heart to Your Glory and Goodness. Lord, let her be saved and sanctified from her sins. I love her, Lord, and her disbelief breaks my heart. I know that it is Your Will that none perish...please speak to her so that she will be born again.

    In Jesus' name I pray,

    Amen

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