Seventh-day Adventists

[Baker]

Fascinating thread. I went to an SDA church once and although the people were nice and friendly, I didn't agree with their theology and didn't return. However, since then I have been receiving regular correspondance from an Adventists who insists that unless I return I can't guarantee my safety and that Sunday is not the sabbath, etc.


Strange group.

[DamianMcAnders]

I'm a former Adventist 3rd generation Pastors Kid, I don't post on the boards very often but I think I'm qualified to speak on the cult I was born into.

That said I believe in my profile you'll find a link to my Christian Blog, the last few posts will be very interesting to you. Also on that blog will be a list of other blogs of mine including one about the Differences Between Adventism and Christianity.

If you have any specific questions you want answer to I'd love to answer them, I'll keep an eye on this thread.

In Christ,

Ross

[Baker]

Thanks Ross!

[DamianMcAnders]

You're more than welcome!

[Hootmon]

Imagine my delight that a local church was doing a series of prophecy conferences. I took the whole family to attend.

Imagine my dismay when within the first hour they started trying to debunk the pre-Trib Rapture.

Amazing Facts indeed...

[DamianMcAnders]

Yes that is a big hint that a prophecy conference is run by Adventists.

Let me guess it was not in an Adventist church building which is par. But was Adventism mentioned anywhere on any of the possible handouts?

I doubt it.

As usual it was probably entirely absent..and it was a bunch of scriptures tossed upon the congregation with no context whatsoever.

If that's the case than nothing has changed since I've left, they are trying to ensnare Whoever they can and put them again under the Law.

[Kat_Pants]

I had no idea reform dress was a SDA thing! I love historical fashion and had seen many of these dresses/pants and wondered how they got put out in fashion...especially in Victorian times.

If anyone is interested in seeing them, here's a good website, nothing bad on it.

http://dressreform.tripod.com/

Katrina

[lightseeker*]

I have been having some online discussions with adventists and it made me want to find out some more about their strange beliefs. I found this website, I hope it's ok to post it, there is a docummentary in 4 parts: "SDA exposed" http://defendingcontending.com/2009/...ntism-exposed/

[Everdisciple]

Hello to all.

What I have found here is that many are cutting and pasting extraodinary inflated claims from anti-adventists from other websites. Without even having an interest in investigating if such claims are true. For example many quotes from Ellen G White are taken out of context.

I challenge any one from this forum to debate me concerning Adventist theology(Bible teachings) in the apologetic forum of this site.

God bless.

[upwardbound]

... they are trying to ensnare Whoever they can and put them again under the Law.

Core problem.


If one does not believe the Word of God (Truth), one certainly will not understand Romans 7:1-6.

[acceptedintheBeloved]

The common theme Satan uses always denies the FINISHED work of Christ.

Agreed!

[Hootmon]

What I have found here is that many are cutting and pasting extraodinary inflated claims from anti-adventists from other websites. Without even having an interest in investigating if such claims are true.

You may have a point, but there are enough unextraordinary uninflated reasons to disagree with SDA so the conclusions are the same.

[Everdisciple]

Core problem.


If one does not believe the Word of God (Truth), one certainly will not understand Romans 7:1-6.

In Romans 7:1-6 Paul is explaining how a woman is free to remarry when her husband dies; she is free from being guilty of adultery because she is no longer under the Law which makes her subject to her husband. If her husband were to be alive and she married someone else she will be commiting adultery. Why? because as long as her husband is alive she is subject to him according to the holy Law(Romans 7:1-2)

Romans 7:4-6 Paul compares the woman being free from the Law of marriage when her husband dies to how us have died to the Law of flesh(Romans 7:5) in baptism in Christ body. Instead of fruits of the flesh which are condemn by the Law and leads to death, we now have fruits of the Spirit to God.

For all of those who are in opposition of the Law, what do you say about Romans 6:15-17?

[upwardbound]

Not in opposition to Law. Completely out of the realm of it.

[IMSAVED]

I worked with a man who was an ordained pastor for the Adventist Church.He was reading a book once that Ellen G. White has written.I do know that they believe in "Soul Sleep" and they do not believe in wearing any makeup.

[AlwaysPraise]

I worked with a man who was an ordained pastor for the Adventist Church.He was reading a book once that Ellen G. White has written.I do know that they believe in "Soul Sleep" and they do not believe in wearing any makeup.

Whats Soul Sleep?

[icebear]

Ellen G. White is a false prophetess. She was lucky we aren't still under the law.

[Everdisciple]

Whats Soul Sleep?

Soul sleep is a word use mainly by non-adventist concerning our belief on the following:

We as Adventist believe that Scripture clearly teaches that once someone dies he waits in his tomb until he is resurrected at Christ coming. (1 Corinthians 15:51-54)(Job 17:13)

Scripture does not teach that the dead receive their reward before Judgement and Christ return. If there is so, I ask for someone to give me such scriptures.

God Bless you.

[acceptedintheBeloved]

2 Corinthians 5:1-8 tells us that between the time we die and the time that our bodies are resurrected and "changed" (at the time of the rapture) we are "unclothed [without a body]," so that, though we are "present with the Lord," we are temporarily "unclothed [without a body]". That's how I understand it (though Paul is expressing our earnest desire to be "clothed upon" immediately, as in the rapture, rather than to be "unclothed" [for a time] due to death of the body. In that case [that is, at the rapture], "mortality is swallowed up of LIFE" - see also 1 Cor 15:54; 2 Cor 5:4.)

The rewards (at the Bema seat) are not given until that judgment takes place (after the rapture of the Church. It is for the Church-age believers only.) The "dead IN CHRIST" (who have died already) are still awaiting all of that. Without a body ("unclothed"), but indeed present with Him.


For those who are not IN CHRIST (by grace alone through faith alone in Christ's finished work alone), there is a whole separate judgment: only condemnation and death (separation from God forever).

Hope that makes sense.




ETA: I had to make some changes to my original post, as it was not exactly correct. I hope you read the changes I've made.

[Steve53]

I challenge any one from this forum to debate me concerning Adventist theology(Bible teachings) in the apologetic forum of this site.

ED - Your request for a move to Apologetics has been granted however there will be no debates. Here in Apolo the Christians of this site will contend for the faith that is true Biblical Christianity.

For your edification I would refer you to our posting rules here - http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?2-Bo...es-for-Posting and specifically rule 6. You may not proselytize for the Adventists here. You are welcome to ask questions and we will strive to give you answers but "debate" is off the table.