UN Security Council on the Arab-Israel conflict

[bubbaganoosh]

mods- this is premium content from the J-post magazine- not sure if i'm allowed to post that here or if i can paste some excerpts? if not just snip it!

but this is a very intriguing article about future UN intervention into the "peace process" using a chapter VII resolution not unlike what's going on in lybia. i get the feeling they're setting precedent in order to be able to impose it's will on israel without their consent- or at the very least, it could be setting the table for the a/c to step up later on.

either way, i found it interesting. maybe you will too!


http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Featur...+GXv6LAMyf2vrm

"The UNSC may decide to use whatever power it has within a non-binding framework to assist in conflict-resolution between the Palestinians and Israelis.

The recent decision by the UN Security Council to impose a mandatory no-fly zone on Libya calls attention to the power of the UNSC and a potential role it can play in the Arab-Israel conflict.

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The only framework in which the Security Council can make binding decisions is if the Council determines that there has been an act of aggression by a state or that a situation threatens world peace. If the Council makes such a determination and declares that it is acting in accordance with chapter VII of the UN Charter, then all states are obliged to comply.

Just like Council resolutions in the past concerning Iraq, Iran, North Korea and apartheid South Africa, the decision concerning Libya was in accordance with chapter VII. Since 1948, the UNSC has never adopted a chapter VII resolution concerning the Arab-Israel dispute. All resolutions concerning the dispute - including the renowned Resolution 242 from 1967 - were non-binding recommendations and bore no mandatory authority.

Unless all five permanent members of the Council drastically change the nature of their relations and ties with Israel and its neighboring Arab states, it is safe to assume that the Council will continue to abstain from operating under chapter VII with regards to the Arab-Israel dispute.

However, within the non-binding framework, the Council is likely to become involved in two ways within the efforts to solve the Arab Israeli dispute: Firstly, it can dispatch peacekeeping forces to assist in monitoring a future Israel-Palestinian agreement. The UN has already dispatched such forces to Lebanon and the Golan Heights, and in the past, also to Sinai. Since 1948, UN forces in the Middle East have kept a permanent HQ in the imposing building in Jerusalem that formerly housed the offices of the British Mandate High Commissioner for Palestine.

However, UN peacekeeping forces have no combat capabilities or authority. They are present purely as observers, and only with the consent of the host states. If ordered to leave by the host state (as Egypt ordered UNEF to do prior to the 1967 Six Day War) they must oblige immediately. So, even though peacekeeping forces may have a role in a future agreement, it will be a minor one as observers only. Those who push for UN forces to be part of Israel's security arrangements in a future agreement, must take into account that should hostilities break out they will invariably disappear. Abba Eban likened this very scenario to a fire brigade running away each time a fire breaks out.

The second possible way for the UNSC to be involved is if the Palestinians submit a resolution to recognize a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders. If submitted, such a resolution will be the first time in the UNSC’s history that it will be requested to determine an international boundary. The UNSC has no authority to determine borders and the UN Charter does not grant such power to the Council.

Although not binding, such a Council resolution would be flagrantly opposed to the accepted norms of international law which states that except in cases of inheriting a border of a previous state, borders must be agreed upon between the states involved.
It is also worth noting that when the Council authorized UN teams to demarcate the border between Iraq and Kuwait, its members were careful to state for the record that they were not determining or changing borders, they were merely marking out a pre-existing one.
Israel and a future Palestinian state will require a clearly defined border between them. No outside authority can serve as a substitute for the joint agreement needed to achieve this."

[Joseph The Carpenter]

I think this and Resolution 1973, and having enemies in the White House ISRAEL will have no choice but to wipe out all their surrounding enemies, and do it quickly.

[JCO]

Praying for Israel, for the Lord's protection, guidance, strength, wisdom and grace.

In Jesus' name, amen.

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The UN (Ungodly Nations) have been so anti-Israel for so long, I think it's just a matter of time before there's a resolution to take action.

The world will be very surprised when its plans crumble, and the Lord Himself intervenes!

[cbressler1976]

This world doesn't just hate the Jewish people.....it hates God....and this is proven by the unjustified hatred toward the Jews..... we do not deserve Jesus, yet, He still died for us! What wonderful love that He has for us, for me, who does nothing but sin..... We are told to think of God as a father and some even say a husband or brother.... but He is so much more then that...who could love us as much as He does? who could know us better then even ourselves? we are evil, dirty creatures and God has His arms outstreched to us....He wants us to come home, but what does the world do? turns it back... it's not so much the hatred of the Jews that hurts me so.....it's the hatred of God that does....

[CarlaL48]

This world doesn't just hate the Jewish people.....it hates God....and this is proven by the unjustified hatred toward the Jews..... we do not deserve Jesus, yet, He still died for us! What wonderful love that He has for us, for me, who does nothing but sin..... We are told to think of God as a father and some even say a husband or brother.... but He is so much more then that...who could love us as much as He does? who could know us better then even ourselves? we are evil, dirty creatures and God has His arms outstreched to us....He wants us to come home, but what does the world do? turns it back... it's not so much the hatred of the Jews that hurts me so.....it's the hatred of God that does....

Very moving post, cbressler. Thank you.

[Mr. Duffee]

I think this and Resolution 1973, and having enemies in the White House ISRAEL will have no choice but to wipe out all their surrounding enemies, and do it quickly.

Yup, if the US doesn't use it's veto power on such a resolution then the time of the fulfillment of Psalm 83 is nigh.

[cbressler1976]

Very moving post, cbressler. Thank you.

...wow....Thank you!!!

[Gilgal]

seems like the UN Security Council (of which U.S. is a permanent member) will eventually throw Israel under the bus. Just a matter of time. Then the fireworks will begin.

I wonder….is there any prophetic significance to the identities of the UNSC 2011 membership: five permanent members (China, France, Russian Federation, UK and US) and the 10 current non-permanent members (Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Colombia, Gabon, Germany, India, Lebanon, Nigeria, Portugal, South Africa).

The General Assembly elected Colombia, Germany, India, Portugal and South Africa to serve as non-permanent members of the Security Council for two-year terms starting on 1 January 2011. The newly elected countries have replaced Austria, Japan, Mexico, Turkey and Uganda.

Each Council member has one vote. Decisions on procedural matters are made by an affirmative vote of at least nine of the 15 members. Decisions on substantive matters require nine votes, including the concurring votes of all five permanent members. This is the rule of "great Power unanimity", often referred to as the "veto" power.

Under the Charter, all Members of the United Nations agree to accept and carry out the decisions of the Security Council. While other organs of the United Nations make recommendations to Governments, the Council alone has the power to take decisions which Member States are obligated under the Charter to carry out.

http://www.un.org/sc/members.asp

[JCO]

Regardless of what else happens in the Middle East, it's just a sideshow. In the end, the emphasis will be on Israel, and on Jerusalem.

The UN (Ungodly Nations) won't be able to resist getting involved, and will use past interventions in the Middle East as a pretext for acting against Israel.

Praying for God's truth to reach those with spiritual "eyes to see and ears to hear."

In Jesus' name, amen.