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    The Ruckman-KJV Study Bible, with Dr. Ruckman's study notes and 118 Appendices of extra information included, is a favorite among many "KJV-Onlyists" but did you know, that Dr. Peter Ruckman has bizarre ideas about Christianity that even concerns other well-known KJV-Only scholars?

    It's ironic that other well known KJV-Onlyists would sound warning bells against one of their own, but they have, and for good reason. For instance:

    In his article, "What about Peter Ruckman", Dr. David Cloud of the Fundamental Baptist Information Service writes:

    RUCKMAN BELIEVES THAT THE KJV IS ADVANCED REVELATION.

    Consider some of his statements to this effect:

    “The A.V. 1611 reading, here, is superior to any Greek text” (Peter Ruckman, The Christian’s Handbook of Manuscript Evidence, Pensacola Bible Press, 1970, p. 118).

    “Mistakes in the A.V. 1611 are advanced revelation!” (Ruckman, Manuscript Evidence, p. 126).

    “A short handbook, such as this, will not permit an exhaustive account of the marvelous undesigned ‘coincidences’ which have slipped through the A.V. 1611 committees, unawares to them, and which give advanced light, and advanced revelation beyond the investigation of the greatest Bible students 300 year later” (Ruckman, Manuscript Evidence, p. 127).

    “A little English will clear up the obscurities in any Greek text” (Ruckman, Manuscript Evidence, p. 147).

    “If all you have is the ‘original Greek,’ you lose light” (Ruckman, Manuscript Evidence, p. 336).

    “If you are able to obtain a copy [of Ruckman’s proposed new book] you will have, in your hands, a minimum of 200 advanced revelations that came from the inerrant English text, that were completely overlooked (or ignored) by every major Christian scholar since 90 A.D.” (Bible Believers’ Bulletin, Jan. 1994, pp. 2, 4).

    “Observe how accurately and beautifully the infallible English text straightens out Erasmus, Griesbach, Beza, Nestle, Aland, Metzger, Trench, Vincent, Davis, Wuest, Zodhiates, Elzevir, and Stephanus with the poise and grace of a swan as it smoothly and effectively breaks your arm with one flap of its wings. Beautiful, isn’t it? If the mood or tense isn’t right in any Greek text, the King James Bible will straighten it out in a hurry” (Ruckman, Problem Texts, pp. 348, 349).

    “The original Hebrew had nothing to do with Genesis 1:1-3 at all [referring to Ruckman’s heresy that the flood of 2 Peter 3:5-6 speaks of a flood that took place in Genesis 1:2]. It only muddied the issue. Hebrew is of no help at all in understanding the passage” (Peter Ruckman, The Unknown Bible, Bible Baptist Bookstore, 1984, p. 67).

    “The King James test is the last and final statement that God has given to the world, and He has given it in the universal language of the 20th century ... The truth is that GOD SLAMMED THE DOOR OF REVELATION SHUT IN 389 BC AND SLAMMED IT SHUT AGAIN IN 1611” (Peter Ruckman, The Monarch of Books, Pensacola, 1973, p. 9). [Brother Cloud: In fact, God slammed the door of revelation shut in about 90 A.D. with the completion of the New Testament.]

    If Ruckman is right, where was the inspired Word of God prior to 1611? What did the churches do from the time of the apostles until the 17th century? And what did they do before Ruckman came upon the scene to create this doctrine, because it is certain that no one taught it at an earlier date?

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    RUCKMAN HOLDS MANY PECULIAR DOCTRINES AND HAS A PROUD, CULTIC ATTITUDE THAT HE ALONE HAS TRUTHS THAT NO ONE ELSE IN CHURCH HISTORY HAS KNOWN.

    In The Unknown Bible, Ruckman claims to hold to 14 “biblical truths” which all other Bible teachers have overlooked. On page 347, Ruckman modestly claims: “Do you realize that in these last two chapters, you have learned a dozen things that were unknown to the greatest Bible teachers in the world? In 2000 years of church history, they haven’t even been able to find the passage which dealt with these things we have been talking about.”

    Some of Ruckman’s long-overlooked “biblical truths” include the following:

    (1) Angels are thirty-three year old males without wings; and all women in the Church Age will receive thirty-three year old male bodies at the Rapture.

    (2) The plan of salvation for Tribulation saints is faith plus works and the plan of salvation in the Millennium is works alone.

    (3) When the believer is born again, his soul is literally cut loose from the inside of his fleshly body. (Ruckman takes spiritual circumcision very literally!)

    (4) Demons are winged creatures ranging in size from those of flies and mosquitoes to eagles and vultures.

    (5) Sexual unions constitute marriage in God’s sight.

    In his 1996 book Black Is Beautiful, Ruckman claims that UFOs are real. Ruckman believes that some of the medieval plagues in Europe were caused by UFOs, that a B-52 bomber was downed by a UFO and that aliens disemboweled the crew members, and that a crew member of a US Navy ship was transported into the future. He believes the CIA has implanted brain transmitters in children, old people, blacks, and prisoners (p. 243) and operates underground alien breeding facilities (p. 256). He believes in Atlantis (p. 171) and the Bermuda Triangle, time warps (p. 160), creatures with one eye (p. 173), web footed aliens, blue aliens with blue blood (pp. 85, 86), black aliens with green blood (p. 244), and grey aliens with clear blood (pp. 310-11). He believes that Adam originally had water in his veins instead of blood (p. 185). He believes that the government is involved with UFO animal mutilations (p. 247). He believes that black helicopters carrying UN troops are “circling your homes” with the mission of attacking and imprisoning the populace (p. 233). He believes the U.S. federal government has kidnapped people and kept them alive in “amber liquid” (p. 230). He believes that the CIA flies around in space ships developed from technology gained when the government made a deal with aliens to allow them to kidnap children and use their organs as food and to experiment on U.S. citizens (pp. 291, 295-297).

    OTHER IDEAS:

    Ruckman does not believe that a fetus becomes a living soul until it is born and takes its first breath.[14] Ruckman also believes in UFOs and blue aliens with blue blood, black aliens with green blood, and gray aliens with clear blood.[15] Further, he believes the CIA has implanted brain transmitters in children, old people, and African-Americans and that the agency operates underground alien breeding facilities.[16]

    "I teach that a baby is not a living soul until it breathes. I'm considered a great heretic for teaching that, but then again if a man goes by the King James Bible he's bound to be a heretic these days. And so I don't teach that abortion is murder like the brethren do and for that reason I'm considered a heretic by some of the brethren...Some of the brethren get so hung up on these things you know, they say, 'Abortion is murder; abortion is murder.' They show you pictures. Well they're trying to prove, they're trying to prove that thing looks like a person, it is a person. That's what Darwin taught. You gotta watch that business." Source: Ruckman sermon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightelf View Post
    “If you are able to obtain a copy [of Ruckman’s proposed new book] you will have, in your hands, a minimum of 200 advanced revelations that came from the inerrant English text, that were completely overlooked (or ignored) by every major Christian scholar since 90 A.D.” (Bible Believers’ Bulletin, Jan. 1994, pp. 2, 4).
    More like 200 advanced crazy ideas. I'll go another 2000 years without his brand of "revelations", including the really compelling one, CIA alien ship pilots.
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    If Ruckman is right, where was the inspired Word of God prior to 1611? What did the churches do from the time of the apostles until the 17th century? And what did they do before Ruckman came upon the scene to create this doctrine, because it is certain that no one taught it at an earlier date?
    Well they obviously reverse engineered it from the riddles that are hidden in the text....duh....


    lol....I had to, just playing but I had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott00049 View Post
    Well they obviously reverse engineered it from the riddles that are hidden in the text....duh....


    lol....I had to, just playing but I had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightelf View Post
    “Mistakes in the A.V. 1611 are advanced revelation!” (Ruckman, Manuscript Evidence, p. 126).
    The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
    Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott00049 View Post
    Well they obviously reverse engineered it from the riddles that are hidden in the text....duh....


    lol....I had to, just playing but I had to.

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    Does Ruckman take into account that some people cannot read or speak or converse in English? So how are they going to read these new advanced revelations?

    And if he tried to convert the KJV into another language than wouldn't that negate the "perfectness" of the advanced revelations?

    And he is making the claim that the original Greek and Hebrew were incomplete?

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    Psalm 30:11-12 (New King James Version)

    11 You have turned for me my mourning into dancing;
    You have put off my sackcloth and clothed me with gladness,
    12 To the end that my glory may sing praise to You and not be silent.
    O LORD my God, I will give thanks to You forever.



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    Quote Originally Posted by HeIsEnough View Post
    More like 200 advanced crazy ideas. I'll go another 2000 years without his brand of "revelations", including the really compelling one, CIA alien ship pilots.
    Psalm 30:11-12 (New King James Version)

    11 You have turned for me my mourning into dancing;
    You have put off my sackcloth and clothed me with gladness,
    12 To the end that my glory may sing praise to You and not be silent.
    O LORD my God, I will give thanks to You forever.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptureReady_7 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightelf View Post
    He believes that the CIA flies around in space ships developed from technology gained when the government made a deal with aliens to allow them to kidnap children and use their organs as food and to experiment on U.S. citizens (pp. 291, 295-297).
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightelf View Post
    “If you are able to obtain a copy [of Ruckman’s proposed new book] you will have, in your hands, a minimum of 200 advanced revelations that came from the inerrant English text, that were completely overlooked (or ignored) by every major Christian scholar since 90 A.D.” (Bible Believers’ Bulletin, Jan. 1994, pp. 2, 4).
    Quote Originally Posted by HeIsEnough View Post
    More like 200 advanced crazy ideas. I'll go another 2000 years without his brand of "revelations", including the really compelling one, CIA alien ship pilots.

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    He believes that the CIA flies around in space ships developed from technology gained when the government made a deal with aliens to allow them to kidnap children and use their organs as food and to experiment on U.S. citizens (pp. 291, 295-297).
    that's just

    Maybe we ought to post this stuff on KJV only sites. That might be interesting........
    Psalm 30:11-12 (New King James Version)

    11 You have turned for me my mourning into dancing;
    You have put off my sackcloth and clothed me with gladness,
    12 To the end that my glory may sing praise to You and not be silent.
    O LORD my God, I will give thanks to You forever.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptureReady_7 View Post
    that's just

    Maybe we ought to post this stuff on KJV only sites. That might be interesting........
    Posting it here where we may have one or two is scary enough

    Actually, this isn't about KJV-Onlyists *so much*. Someone recommended this Bible on another thread here recently, and after looking it up I became alarmed. It's more a warning to those who may have this Ruckman Bible in their posession, or are thinking of purchasing one, that Dr. Ruckman's beliefs and notes (the main feature of this bible is that it's full of his own notes and 118 appendices) are not in line with scripture, so anyone following them will be led to disaster.
    I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth. (Rev. 3:8,10)


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    Interesting stuff here

    The first thing we noticed about the RRB was that the layout of the notes and references is similar to the Scofield Bible, except that it included 118 appendices in the back, making it a much thicker volume. It has the dedication to King James as in the original 1611, but considering that is included, it noticeably lacks The Translators to the Readers preface, probably because several statements therein by the KJV translators are contrary to Ruckmanism.

    We will begin our critique backwards by going through the appendices first, followed by the notes in the body of the text. The fact that an appendix was skipped does not mean that the contents were found to be Biblical. We are simply jotting down some observations regarding what stood out to us the most during our first reading of the RRB.
    Appendix 1


    The very first appendix includes a statement saying that if Jehovah had been used for Lord every time, it would have destroyed the unity of the Bible. Since Hebrew does not make the same distinction as in the KJV, he closed the appendix with the following statement: "The King James Version is an improvement over the 'Hebrew.'"
    Appendix 5


    Although documented (mostly from E.L. Abel's questionable book Moon Madness published by the publisher Fawcett, not written by Fawcett as stated in the RRB) this appendix is loaded with superstition about the moon. Among the unusual things mentioned is the following: "In eight years, Henry Lee Lucas murdered one hundred girls. Every time the moon was full, he had intercourse with a corpse or a severed head." Needless to say, such information seems out of place in a reference Bible.
    Appendix 20


    As part of this appendix there is a chart on p. 1707 in which Ruckman tries to prove through some illustrations and Scripture references that Mt. Zion is shaped like a pyramid. Ruckman's point can be summarized in the following two statements on this page: "Since God is a trinity, 'Mt. Zion' has to be a pyramid shape." "All Greek and Hebrew scholars missed all of the revelation."
    Appendix 21


    Within this appendix there is a heading with the title "The Tricks of the Tradesmen (1880-2000)" Under this heading there is a list of statements in quotes which he does not comment on, but disagrees with or considers to be diversionary tactic. We will list some selected ones and comment on them:

    "The Greek text says..." & "The original Greek text says..."

    Even when the worst manuscripts are included, there is no dispute whatsoever concerning over 95% of the text of the New Testament. When all manuscripts agree on a given reading, this statement should be considered safe. In his RRB notes under Deut. 32:31, Ruckman referrs to the "original Greek" as follows: "The Holy Spirit preserved (in 'the original Greek') the difference between the two words by using 'petros' for Peter and 'petra' for Jesus Christ in every copy of Matthew extant (Matt. 16:18). The words are not the same in English, Latin, or Greek."

    "Erasmus was pro-Catholic."

    Although it should be acknowledged that Erasmus was openly critical of some practices and beliefs of the Catholic church, he never left it.

    "There was no Receptus before 1633."

    The Textus Receptus (TR) got its name from a prefatory statement in Latin in a TR edition from 1633. However, the 1633 edition was part of a series of Greek New Testament editions that had only been lightly revised since Erasmus' 1516 edition; therefore Ruckman is right to point out that it is wrong to say there was no Textus Receptus before 1633.

    "Editions of the Receptus differ"

    That there are some variances between editions of the Textus Receptus is not in dispute, and Ruckman has even used that argument in his writings against those he calls "TR-men" in an attempt to justify correcting the Greek with the English.

    "Where was the word of God before 1611?"

    See Ruckman admitting he doesn't know where the Word of God was before 1611.

    "The AV had a Crown copyright"

    It absolutely did. The New Testament title page of the 1611 edition has cum privilegio, which is how copyright notices were noted in the 17th century.

    "The Russians (Spanish, Germans, etc.) had no AV before 1611."

    They had TR-based translations, but no AV. They are left with something Ruckman considers to be inferior.
    Appendix 27


    Under this appendix there is a section called "'Ruckmanism' in the 17th-20th Centuries." Under this he has a list of 7 people who supposed taught that the Authorized Version of 1611 was a perfect Bible before his time. He does not quote any of them directly (if he would have, people could see that the quotes did not back up what he says). In six cases the reference is not to a primary source, but rather one of his publications which provides the quote. Six of the seven on his list were refuted in our article No evidence of Ruckmanism before 1950. The seventh one is new to us, and we will report on it once we obtain a copy of the book.
    Update, Dec. 29, 2009: We obtained a copy of the only book on Ruckman's list we were not familiar with, and we were not surprised to find that on the page number Ruckman lists there is not mention of the "KJV," the "Authorized Version," or even "our English translation." All that was found is a statement that referred to the Bible in general terms, with no version specified: "When the Bible says one thing and scholarship says another, scholarship can go plumb to the devil." (20 Years with Billy Sunday by Homer Rodeheaver, p. 69)
    Appendix 31


    Who but Ruckman would have a list of "asses" in the Scripture as an appendix to a reference Bible? He provides a list of 28 uses for them, then links it to the 28-day cycle of the moon!
    Appendix 35


    This appendix contains a paragraph with one of Ruckman's strange beliefs:

    Since the first public miracle in the Old Testament was Moses turning water to blood, and since the first public miracle in the New Testament was Jesus Christ turning water into wine (a type of blood), it stands to Biblical reasoning that the circulatory system which Adam and Eve had before they fell, was a water system ... This brings up the problem of bloodsuckers like vampire bats and Dracula...

    Appendix 36


    This appendix has to do with the tithe being one tenth, and it is so strange throughout, that we will only quote the first line which should be sufficient to demonstrate its weirdness: "In the Book, the 'tithe' is directly connected with cannibalism in the United Nations after the Rapture."
    Appendix 37


    Most of this appendix has to do with Ruckman's superstitions regarding the letter x. He has a long list of words that contain this letter, and the ridiculousness of it all is summed up in the sphinx, a mythical creature which he defines as "a double-sexed cat!" Does Ruckman really expect people to take his Ruckman Reference Bible seriously?
    Appendix 51


    Ruckman is still trying to guess the dates of the rapture, in spite of God's warning of such a futility in Mat. 24:36. In the current appendix he has the heading "The Calendar for the Second Advent." Under this he introduces his dates with the following statement: "Possible dates for a pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church would be either three days after Passover or on Pentecost (on a Jewish calendar)."



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    In the Book, the 'tithe' is directly connected with cannibalism in the United Nations after the Rapture."
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    Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.
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    Crazy stuff for sure.

    I worry that people might purchase it, thinking it's another nice KJV, and not realise that the notes added by Ruckman are not Biblically sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightelf View Post
    Crazy stuff for sure.

    I worry that people might purchase it, thinking it's another nice KJV, and not realise that the notes added by Ruckman are not Biblically sound.
    I think we are all better off if we study God's word to show ourselves approved, workmen in good stead, rightly dividing the word of truth. Start following men, whether it it be Ruckie or anyone else, will only lead us all down 40 miles of bad road. The Holy Spirit will teach us and lead us into all truth. Pastors and teachers can be helpful, but the responsibility to learn the word of God rests on us as individuals also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooter View Post
    I think we are all better off if we study God's word to show ourselves approved, workmen in good stead, rightly dividing the word of truth. Start following men, whether it it be Ruckie or anyone else, will only lead us all down 40 miles of bad road. The Holy Spirit will teach us and lead us into all truth. Pastors and teachers can be helpful, but the responsibility to learn the word of God rests on us as individuals also.
    I agree with you tooter.

    I used to naively think that study bibles put out by "so and so" were a good thing, but now realising that these well-known teachers that put out their own special Bibles have their own doctrinally-slanted ideas and errors written on those pages - I've changed my mind. At the store I used to recommend the MacArthur study Bible, but won't even do that anymore, knowing how deeply he is into Lordship/slavery salvation and Calvinism.

    Interesting how we as Christians, somehow thought that putting out these study Bibles would be okay, but really, I'm beginning to think it's no better than the non-Christians who mess with the scriptures and add to them.
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    One thing i do have a lot of respect for with Ruckman is his street preaching. He has probably lead more people to the Lord than all of the newer emergent churches. combined. If you have good discenrment, one can get a lot out of his messages. People try to compare him with the Terry Jones's and Westburo, if they would here the man and meet the members of the church, they are sincere and want everyone to get to heaven. Because we are dealing with a society entrenched in sin, since the beginning of time. One MUST use discernment at all times, whether it be Ruckman, Lindsey, Missler, or Rob "no hell" Bell. Though i do not think i could sit through a Rob Bell Sermon, I might be too tempted to call him out.

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    Ok...

    What was that again about cannibalism at the UN? I am totally weirded out now.

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    Ruckman takes his stand on abortion from Exodus 21:22.This is my understanding of this controversary:
    1.The Bible records Exodus 21:22 as Biblical history .It,s what they as a country believed at the time.That does not mean they were right in their thinking to merly pay a fine for killing an unborn baby.There are numerous passages in the Word that say without question life begins at the moment of conception.You do not take 1 verse out and make a doctrine out of it,compare scripture with scripture to find the truth about a matter.---Does Ruckman also say it,s alright for a demon possessed woman to praise God ? Acts 16:16-18--of course not --the Bible simply recorded an actual event,not that is alright to do.

    2.He is a human man,and can be wrong.I would be afraid of someone,s preaching if they were 100% right all the time.All this proves is that you compare what anyone says with the KJV and if it does not agree,the person is wrong.That includes your mom,your pastor,Jack Hyles and yes even Dr.Ruckman.


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