Osama Bin Laden is dead

[SaintTexas]

Question: I have to ask it. I am sorry.

What is the reason that we did not capture him rather than kill him if we knew for certain where he was? The order was to kill him.

[SoThankful]

Question: I have to ask it. I am sorry.

What is the reason that we did not capture him rather than kill him if we knew for certain where he was? The order was to kill him.

I think it was the right decision, especially with Holder as AG, no telling where he would have put this guy on trial. I really hope they release some pictures, the longer they hold out, the more people are going to think it's some type of hoax. I have no doubt the man was killed last night, I just think the whole thing would have been more effective had the military announced the news and showed pictures similar to the way they did when they caught sadam.

[RaptureReady_7]

I agree.

There are complaints about American youth not being patriotic enough but when they celebrate the death of a terrorist they are accused to being too young to remember 9/11 (which wasn't even 10 years ago) and having been bribed with beer.

There are complaints that Obama is soft on terror and a closet Muslim who will protect is own but when Bin Laden is killed on his watch it happened because he's an inside Muslim.

I am a Constitutional conservative and proud of it. I'm a fundamentalist Christian and proud of it. Because I am those things it grieves me when people take conservative Christianity and appear to *try* to fulfill every stereotype that is used to make fun of us. b

All conspiracy theorists are doing, are speculating. Are you saying that there is something wrong with one speculating out loud on their thoughts?

Some of the stuff may sound a bit out there. But it is still a free country. Nothing is bad, evil or sinful about thinking outside the box. And that is a good thing.

What stereotype are you talking about we are all here fulfilling? Most believe that Obama is a Muslim because of his very public actions of being pro Islam (as evidenced by his speech last night on the wonderfulness of Islam) and all the anti Christian stances he takes and lies about. Nothing conspiracy about that. That is just obvious.

You might notice that every single person we bring in, kill or whatever in teh war on terror are ONLY MUSLIM. And then Obama says we are not at war with Islam.

YES, WE ARE AT WAR WITH ISLAM.

It is a prominent religion of satan.

Obama is soft on terror. He wanted to pull us out of Afghanistan. Reduce the troop levels (he voted against it every time in Congress), making them vulnerable to attack and no support. He was going to close down Gitmo, but the news is clear now. It is what we learned in enhanced interrogation there that we caught Bin Laden.

So, actually, it is not really conspiracy theorist to think Obama is a Muslim, it is a pretty popular opinion, based on Obama's own actions and words of support for Islam, all the time.

I personally think that President Obama is not a Muslim, he is waaaayyyy too infatuated with himself to allow another god in.

So it is not strange at all for people to call Obama soft on terror. He has only recently started trying to act "tough" (still wimpy to me) because his numbers suck. That is the only reason.

To few trust Obama here because his fruit as a Christian is non existent, in fact he is very combative against fundamental Christianity and Gods' word (calling parts of the Bible obscure passages that are not God's word - his own words).

Our minds are never going to change on Obama. Not ever. His fruit is rotten to the core and therefore, we will never trust him, not even a little bit. Ever.


And how sad is it that the first response among fundamental Christians is that this was staged? That is the state of Obama's fruit to us.

[Biblecat2]

I was just listening to Rush Limbaugh and had to chuckle at his statement,.... "Obama should definitely be praised, for continuing the Bush administration's policies that led to Osama's death."

[OtherSideOfTheBoat]

That is exactly right.

Has it occured to anyone that the assination of OBL is like a signal to the exported jihad terrorist cells to unleash hell on earth and start in the USA?
Seriously, our prayers should be that the Lord deals with us mercifully.

I am disgusted but unsurprised at the headlines I saw immediately after I posted on the celebrating in the US over this, and I was cringing in advance of signing on this morning of the potential posts regarding this and PRAISING THE LORD for our mod team who are doing an outstanding job of snipping the snot out of the remarks on this thread.

If we want to dispute Obama's claim that we are not a Christian nation, we need to start by behaving like the Lord and asking Him to guide our thoughts, words, and actions by His Spirit rather than walking in the flesh. He told His Father to forgive those who were beating Him, reviling Him and pounding nails through His hands and feet. We need to take a lesson from the only One who ever lived worthy of us following.

Absolutely, it definitely occurred to me.

[Sari]

All conspiracy theorists are doing, are speculating. Are you saying that there is something wrong with one speculating out loud on their thoughts?

Some of the stuff may sound a bit out there. But it is still a free country. Nothing is bad, evil or sinful about thinking outside the box. And that is a good thing.

What stereotype are you talking about we are all here fulfilling? Most believe that Obama is a Muslim because of his very public actions of being pro Islam (as evidenced by his speech last night on the wonderfulness of Islam) and all the anti Christian stances he takes and lies about. Nothing conspiracy about that. That is just obvious.

You might notice that every single person we bring in, kill or whatever in teh war on terror are ONLY MUSLIM. And then Obama says we are not at war with Islam.

YES, WE ARE AT WAR WITH ISLAM.

It is a prominent religion of satan.

Obama is soft on terror. He wanted to pull us out of Afghanistan. Reduce the troop levels (he voted against it every time in Congress), making them vulnerable to attack and no support. He was going to close down Gitmo, but the news is clear now. It is what we learned in enhanced interrogation there that we caught Bin Laden.

So, actually, it is not really conspiracy theorist to think Obama is a Muslim, it is a pretty popular opinion, based on Obama's own actions and words of support for Islam, all the time.

I personally think that President Obama is not a Muslim, he is waaaayyyy too infatuated with himself to allow another god in.

So it is not strange at all for people to call Obama soft on terror. He has only recently started trying to act "tough" (still wimpy to me) because his numbers suck. That is the only reason.

To few trust Obama here because his fruit as a Christian is non existent, in fact he is very combative against fundamental Christianity and Gods' word (calling parts of the Bible obscure passages that are not God's word - his own words).

Our minds are never going to change on Obama. Not ever. His fruit is rotten to the core and therefore, we will never trust him, not even a little bit. Ever.


And how sad is it that the first response among fundamental Christians is that this was staged? That is the state of Obama's fruit to us.

Thank you for saying this , its what I have been trying to say. We have a right to question things that don't seem right.

[RaptureReady_7]

Bush hasn't been president for a couple of years now.

Why is it that every time Bush's name is brought up in connection with something bad his supporters are quick to point out he is no longer president, but when something good happens on Obama's watch they want the credit to go to Bush. You can't have it both ways. Either his influence, good or bad, ended when he left office or it didn't.

It goes with the fact that Obama fought this war all the way, striving against the US being successful in our missions, to voting down money and troop levels. His saying that it wasn't Islam (even though every single person we have fought and killed for this war is Muslim). We are at war with Islam, it is that whole, "they hate us and want us to die because we will not serve allah thing".

But mostly, it is because it is a proven fact that almost all of his speeches run with "I", "me", "I", "I", "I". It is all centered around what he does, said or thinks. Even Clinton, the (now) 2nd most narcissistic person in the world, did not take all the credit for things. Neither did Bush. Both always made sure they gave credit where it was duel To the people who actually gathered the intel, the people who actually did the dirty work of eliminating our enemies , or thinking out side the box and other things.

One of the most off-putting things about Obama is his absolutely demented desire to project his "awesomeness" into everything.

And Obama is only carrying on, and deteriorating efforts, on his part in the war on terror from what Bush and the MILITARY/INTEL people set up long ago.

Bush was not responsible for 9/11 in that he still had only just been able to work on his administration because of the liberals fighting him all the way. and he had been in office only a short time.

That is why Bush can take credit for somethings. and not for others.

[RaptureReady_7]

But the bible does say be careful with your words, and of your witness.

But what does that have to do with people thinking and posting about the events?

[AlwaysPraise]

Question: I have to ask it. I am sorry.

What is the reason that we did not capture him rather than kill him if we knew for certain where he was? The order was to kill him.

I think that is an excellent question. They killed this man, then later after death did dna to indentify whether it is or not. It would be something after all this media stir up if they found through that dna the guy was someone else. I wonder if they would even admit publicly the mistake? scary thoughts

[RaptureReady_7]

Because it's already being acknowledged on the news that this is the culmination of work leading back over 4 years. And that work was built on foundations laid before that. This isn't about Bush's presidency in a generic sense, but about giving the man his due in a specific instance. It's a simple fact that Obama either opposed or ignored the policies that led to Bin Laden being brought to justice.

I guess GITMO and waterboarding are looking pretty darn good right now!

[OtherSideOfTheBoat]

When did they get his DNA on file to compare to the new sample?

[SaintTexas]

I would also remind folks that a big problem within Islam is Muslim-on-Muslim violence.
If Obama was a Muslim (and I am not saying he is but there is no way he is a Christian, and I pray he repents and believes in Jesus Christ one day), killing another Muslim, even OBL, is not an issue for the radical Muslims at all.

Regarding whether this is actually OBL, my husband (former military) and I just talked about this very thing this morning, and I asked about this. He said he has no doubt the intelligence was good and it was him; they have facial recognition software, etc. that could do some of this in advance. That was actually not what my husband was concerned about, but it was what I was concerned about.

With the threat issued (was it last week that Al Qaeda said that they have a nuke in Europe and cells everywhere and if OBL was killed they would set it off and unleash those cells--I know I remember reading the article on this--it's quite a curious thing they issued a specific threat about this right before it happened), doesn't it seem just like Al Qaeda to have his death as a worldwide signal to coordinate an attack? Not trying to conspire, but this whole thing just creeps me out and causes me to want to pray for the Lord's mercy on all of us.

[RaptureReady_7]

Bush and Cheney are being diplomatic. What exactly is Obama's "due" in this? Obama opposed the war in Iraq, he worked to close down GITMO, and released CIA documents that compromised intelligence gathering efforts; I would argue that the Bin Laden mission was successful in spite of Obama's efforts, and certainly not because of them. Giving the nod to an operation that was being practiced for a week already is a no-brainer and a rubber stamp; hardly an act of courage.

More than Bush or Obama, our military and intelligence community deserve the credit and accolades.

[araj54]

Because of the time in history that we are living I find it easier to understand the events that are happening are, in a lot of cases, just pieces of the puzzle leading up to the antichrist appearance. If I wouldn't take that into account then very little would make any sense.

[RaptureReady_7]

A little reset here.

* God's mind should be our mind, I know osama was no Jew, but this gives us a look at how God views even the wicked.



* I don't think this was timed for political gain. If it was obama is a fool. The 2012 elections are too far away, and the problems facing the country are too deep. The people cheering in the streets are gonna come out of the ether when the go to the market for food, and fill there gas tanks or cash their unemployment check.

* I don't think it was a double or a cover up. I think osama went from 98.6 to room temp in the last 48 hours, just as reported. Remember, obama is no hero of our brave men and women in arms, and I can't see them being involved in something like a conspiracy to make barry look good for a week or two.

Just sayin.

This I agree with. I am in no way an Obama fan, neither are most people here. But now that more info is coming in, I think the same also.

It is just funny that most of the people's first thought here was that Obama was up to something. That I find more telling than anything.

[AlwaysPraise]

When did they get his DNA on file to compare to the new sample?

They are supposed to be comparing it to that of his family members.

"WASHINGTON – The U.S. used multiple means to confirm the identity of Osama bin Laden during and after the firefight in which he was killed, before placing his body in the North Arabian Sea from aboard a U.S. aircraft carrier, senior U.S. officials said Monday."

"The intelligence official said the DNA match, using DNA from several family members, provided virtual certainty that it was bin Laden's body."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_la...Bzb3VyY2VzdXN1

[HugsFromJesus]

I have been reading comments from different facebooks that I am serial clicking from strangers accounts, blogs, comments on news articles and the concensus of this worldly world is "isn't this wonderful, Osama bin Laden is dead and in Hell right where he should be"...

This is really making me sad. This is again a reminder that really shows the mentality of this unbelieving world which is they truly believe in that "GOOD people go to Heaven and BAD people go to Hell"....afterall OBL deserves to be in Hell because he is BAD! A very simple concept in their eyes. If you live your life and are nice, Heaven is waiting for you. If you are a bad person, Hell is your destiny. One thing they forgot, how do they measure good and bad against a perfect and Holy God? Who has that job of sorting?

It is only when I came to Rapture Ready that I found where a real discussion was taking place. We really are brothers and sisters and we truly are of the same Spirit. We, as believers "get it" and we are not rejoicing in a dead person. We are saddened by a lost person and the masses this man has taken along with him on the road to destruction. How many unsaved people lost their lives on 9/11? We just have to cling to the fact that God allowed 9/11 to happen for a reason, He could have stopped it, but He didn't. I truly think this will set the stage for more evil and we have to now just watch and see how God's plan will unfold. There is always a "next in line" in any group or organization and I am sure OBL made sure the line was long. In his own circle, I am sure OBL was a hero and who would say "no" from the boss?

On another note, the adoration of John Paul II was nothing short of blasphemy. I had never heard of this Catholic process of beautification before sainthood (???) until years ago when I read a mystery book by Mary Higgins Clark and beautification was the subject of the story. MHC said she was inspired to write about this subject after attending a beautification of somebody or other. Yesterday, I saw a picture of all these robed priests, bishops (whatever they are) kissing the JPII casket and generally worshipping this dead man. I didn't watch the ceremony, quite frankly, watching billions of lost people is not entertaining to me. All this pomp and circumstances to create a saint? If I want to see a saint, I just look in the mirror.

Then there is Obama. He timed this whole thing perfectly. All the TV shows were ending and people were ready to turn in for the night. The teasers were coming, "Stay tuned". People stayed up because they knew this had to be importmant. It was a Sunday night with a new work day starting today. He knew everyone would go to work or start their week with this news fresh in their brains and he wanted "Obama the great" to be the ultimate water cooler talk. Everything Obama does has a motive. Sorry, but when someone tells you who they are, believe them! Also, I saw an advertisement that today the Obamas are scheduled to be on Oprah. How far in advance was this scheduled? When was this taped? Did the Obamas tell Oprah that they wanted to come on and wish her farewell and time this perfectly. You know that no matter if this show has been taped or not Oprah would be there for Obama to be live fed patting himself on the back. The timing of the announcement, Oprah, it all appears "Obamaish" to me.

So, here we are! Yesterday was a huge day for many people. We have the Muslims up in arms, billions of Catholics confused as usual (and I say that with a heavy heart) and we have Obama (the Christian that he says he is) bringing peace to the country. Another word used in the many comments that I read, "we now can have PEACE".....

I just feel a heaviness in my Spirit because all these events are truly reminders of how lost this world and most of it's people are. I feel very saddened today because my Spirit is grieving.

Thank you Lord for RR where we can come and all be together when the world becomes too much to handle. We are all like -minded in that we love our Lord and know Him as our Savior. We love our enemies and don't celebrate anybody going to Hell. We love each other and we have a connection because we know the TRUTH because God has opened our eyes and the Lord is in each of us convicting us that He is real and is alive. We are so blessed. :-)

Today and everyday I feel so honored to be one of God's children and I am blessed to have each of you as my brothers and sisters.

[araj54]

Great post Hugs from Jesus!!!

[logosone]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ated-pakistan/

Former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf on Monday accused the U.S. of violating his country’s sovereignty by sending in special forces to kill Osama bin Laden.

Musharraf was part of the original problem as we're now learning as certain fact
(it was already known), that Pakistani security was well aware of what was
going on all along. The money involved was over $80 million dollars a month
that you can be assured was siphoned off like a pump hose.
President Bush himself made a statement shortly before departure that he had
made a mistake in his handling of Musharraf and allowing them to continue this charade.

It bears noting that there had been many instances where we attempted operations only to
sabotage them by telling the Pakistani's anything about what we were doing, but we finally
figured that out with the many recent drone strike successes and it definitely didn't happen this time!

[RaptureReady_7]

i do think that saying that the current CIC had no role in killing a terrorist but a president who finished serving 2 years ago does is a bit silly.

and Bush was quoted at one point saying that he wasn't worried about Osama.