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    Cross "Son of Sam" killer is BORN-AGAIN!

    These are the kind of stories I love to report to my bros and sisters in Christ.

    Remember David Berkowitz, the frightening "Son of Sam" killer who terrified NYC over 25 yrs ago? The guy was a giggling lunatic, totally creepy, who swore that a dog named Sam ordered him to randomly kill people. Nobody doubted this sicko was bound for hell.

    Many years ago in prison a Messianic believer led David, also Jewish, to Jesus .... freeing him from Satan's grasp. From all accounts David Berkowitz has been a completely sane, joyful, loving, and faithful servant of the Lord ever since. He has ministered to other inmates, including many of his fellow Jews, by telling them the Good News of Messiah.

    "I have no interest in parole and no plans to seek release," Berkowitz wrote FoxNews.com in an Aug. 6 letter. “If you could understand this, I am already a 'free man.' I am not saying this jokingly. I really am. Jesus Christ has already forgiven and pardoned me, and I believe this."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/24...#ixzz1VxpANsSP
    Only our Savior has the AWESOME POWER to bring such a transformation! I hope you'll join me in praising Him for the miracle of David's salvation as well as our own!

    Isaiah 1:18
    “Come now, let us settle the matter,” says the LORD. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.

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    Wow..he sounds like the "real deal". May God be forever glorified for His mercy and grace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbT View Post
    Remember David Berkowitz, the frightening "Son of Sam" killer who terrified NYC over 25 yrs ago? The guy was a giggling lunatic, totally creepy, who swore that a dog named Sam ordered him to randomly kill people. Nobody doubted this sicko was bound for hell.

    Many years ago in prison a Messianic believer led David, also Jewish, to Jesus .... freeing him from Satan's grasp. From all accounts David Berkowitz has been a completely sane, joyful, loving, and faithful servant of the Lord ever since. He has ministered to other inmates, including many of his fellow Jews, by telling them the Good News of Messiah.

    Only our Savior has the AWESOME POWER to bring such a transformation! I hope you'll join me in praising Him for the miracle of David's salvation as well as our own!

    Isaiah 1:18
    “Come now, let us settle the matter,” says the LORD. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.
    Thanks, Barb, for posting this wonderful news. I'm sure that Mr. Berkowitz can relate well to the life of the apostle Paul, during the time that he was referred to as a 'young man named Saul'.
    God is so good! None of us are deserving of the salvation He offers, but we gladly receive it and give Him our praise.

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    This brings up a troubling thought that I have often had when I hear about someone
    who was previously a vicious murderer and they have found the forgiveness of Christ.
    What about the people they murdered? Suppose some of those people were not saved
    when they were killed, but may have come to Christ at some point, but their lives were
    taken before they could do so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamHis View Post
    Suppose some of those people were not saved
    when they were killed, but may have come to Christ at some point, but their lives were
    taken before they could do so?


    Think of the character of our LORD. He says He is not willing that ANY should perish.

    He gives each individual the time they personally need, to repent.
    If he took them unrepentant at 30, they wouldn't have been repentant on an old-age deathbed either.
    I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked.
    For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor;
    no good thing does He withhold from those whose walk is blameless.

    Psalm 84:10-11

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    I read the story this morning as well and praise the Lord for this.

    IamHis, he expressed regret and a desire to have never done it or to go back and undo it, which he said obviously could not be done.

    Google the story for the full read.

    Here's the thing about repentance that leads unto salvation which is in 2 Corinthians 7; it looks like something:

    9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. 11 For observe this very thing, that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

    If you read the story, he seems to have genuine regret, is serving in the prison church, is serving his time without complaint and he says that he has a new life in Christ. If he came in humility to Jesus asking for forgiveness of his sins and payment of them, and accepted Jesus as Saviour and Lord, then he does have a new life in Christ and appears to be demonstrating that.

    It's natural to doubt the sincerity of anyone who went from a wretch to a saint, but God looks at the one who is prideful the same as the one who murdered in cold blood; it is the blood of Jesus, who became our propitiation (love 1 John) for our sins and that makes us as if we had never sinned at all. Paul had more blood on his hands than this man did and the Lord used him mightily to share His Son. Let's pray this man has a witness for Jesus Christ---no one deserves to be saved. That God made any way speaks of His character of mercy, grace and compassion, not ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacinth View Post


    Think of the character of our LORD. He says He is not willing that ANY should perish.

    He gives each individual the time they personally need, to repent.
    If he took them unrepentant at 30, they wouldn't have been repentant on an old-age deathbed either.
    I agree. Also, I put bold around one portion of your reply, because this is exactly what we are to do when we have a lack of understanding in some area. We are to look at the character, nature, attributes of God, and 'then' see if we still have a question such as the one in the OP. Most of my questions get cleared up this way.

    -Lynn

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    Good answer Jacinth.

    IamHis, NOTHING catches our Lord off guard!

    It doesn't matter how we die -- murder, accident, illness, natural causes -- our lives have a finite end and He knows the exact second we will draw our last breath. If a person is going to choose salvation the Lord will be faithful to let it happen before death.

    I LOVE the fact His ways are so much higher than ours!

    eta: Of course the world looks at murder victims as "angels In Heaven" while their killers are condemned to hell. PERIOD.

    It was that way with Susan Atkins of the Tate/LaBianca murders in 1969. Susan repented and became born-again in Christ. She had an awesome ministry in prison for 40 yrs until her death in 2010. Everyone associated with her said her conversion was authentic ... she witnessed to prison staff and taught Bible classes. On her deathbed Susan told her husband she was going home to be with Jesus. She died a truly happy woman.

    Strange, but I can't say for certain that her victims died unsaved but from reading many accounts from friends and family none were believers. This "upside down" reality doesn't seem fair to the pagan world. That's one of the reasons they hate God so much.
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    When I went to prison in 2002, that is where I started my true relationship with the Lord....and in one of our bible studies we watched a video on his transformation...I remember being absolutely amazed at his story and all the inmates now that he leads to Christ....he is happy where he is at and knows he is working for the Lord...

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    Also he spoke about all the persecution he receives from the "outside" of all the people that do not believe this is real...that he is just using this as a way to get out...He does not want to get out and I believe has turned down his parole hearings..if I am not mistaken. This story just goes to prove the power of God and how He can use you in any situation...♥

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    wow cool story
    For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18

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    praise God!

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    Ted Bundy was saved in prison too. I saw an interview Dobson had with him hours before he was executed. I also heard that Jeffrey Dahmer was saved before being killed in prison.

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    the title of the thread made me think that the son of sam killer was back killing people again. like a copy cat or something
    For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18

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    I didn't know this and I am sitting here crying, my Spirit is so moved right now about how awesome our God is. :-)

    Thank you so much for sharing all of your comments. I knew about Susan Atkins and Jeffrey Dahmer but never Ted Bundy so I am not sure about that one. I will have to do some research.

    One thing the world doesn't understand is that we are just as much of a sinner in God's eyes as these serial killers are, as no sin is greater than another. Jesus took on the debt for all sins, if we repent of them and make Him Lord of our life. The world looks at it as "well, he/she is a good person so they are going to Heaven." Nobody could ever be good enough when compared to a perfect God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom2ten View Post
    Ted Bundy was saved in prison too. I saw an interview Dobson had with him hours before he was executed. I also heard that Jeffrey Dahmer was saved before being killed in prison.
    I had heard that about Dahmer but not about Bundy. I know Ann Rule's son Mike from when we used to live in the Seattle area. I don't remember him ever mentioning that. I asked him about Ted since his mother worked with him and he used to walk her out to her car to be sure she was safe....is that not the ironies of ironies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbT View Post
    Good answer Jacinth.

    IamHis, NOTHING catches our Lord off guard!

    It doesn't matter how we die -- murder, accident, illness, natural causes -- our lives have a finite end and He knows the exact second we will draw our last breath. If a person is going to choose salvation the Lord will be faithful to let it happen before death.

    I LOVE the fact His ways are so much higher than ours!

    eta: Of course the world looks at murder victims as "angels In Heaven" while their killers are condemned to hell. PERIOD.

    It was that way with Susan Atkins of the Tate/LaBianca murders in 1969. Susan repented and became born-again in Christ. She had an awesome ministry in prison for 40 yrs until her death in 2010. Everyone associated with her said her conversion was authentic ... she witnessed to prison staff and taught Bible classes. On her deathbed Susan told her husband she was going home to be with Jesus. She died a truly happy woman.

    Strange, but I can't say for certain that her victims died unsaved but from reading many accounts from friends and family none were believers. This "upside down" reality doesn't seem fair to the pagan world. That's one of the reasons they hate God so much.
    So, I have two sons who are not saved. The way I read your post, is that if my sons will at some time come to the Lord, He will let them live until they do so? Scripture?

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    For IamHis....

    1 Chronicles 28:9 ...the LORD searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts.

    Revelation 2:23 and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts
    The LORD is not confined to "time" like we are, correct? So when you look at your sons as 30 year olds (or whatever age) God also sees them at 50 or 60 years old....not the way we do. He knows if a heart is/will be ripe for Him; He is omniscient.

    Look at Saul of Tarsus, later becoming the Apostle Paul -- all the cruelty he took part in before conversion:

    1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, and not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

    Galatians 1:13 For you have heard of my former manner of life in Judaism, how I used to persecute the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it;
    But God saw fit to see Paul through to salvation:

    That's what He did for Paul, and many murderers down through the centuries

    Also part of God's character:

    Acts 10:34 Opening his mouth, Peter said: “I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality,

    Mark 12:14 They came and said to Him, “Teacher, we know that You are truthful and defer to no one; for You are not partial to any, but teach the way of God in truth.
    So if God is not one to show partiality; what He did for Paul, He will do for anyone -- eternal salvation is very important to the LORD. He died to give it to us.

    And He:
    2 Peter 3:9 ..is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
    God is longsuffering with the world, look how long we've waited for the rapture -- just so more could come to salvation. How much more is He this way for an individual!

    If God is love (1 John 4:8, 16), and love is patient and love never fails (1 Co 13:4-8), then that tells me all I need to know about God and salvation.
    I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked.
    For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor;
    no good thing does He withhold from those whose walk is blameless.

    Psalm 84:10-11

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbi21021 View Post
    Also he spoke about all the persecution he receives from the "outside" of all the people that do not believe this is real...that he is just using this as a way to get out...He does not want to get out and I believe has turned down his parole hearings..if I am not mistaken. This story just goes to prove the power of God and how He can use you in any situation...♥

    I've read that also--that he doesn't want to be paroled knowning that he must suffer the consequences of his actions for the rest of his life. What an amazing story! Our God is just Awesome beyond words!!!
    John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

    John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.

    Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

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    Our God is an awsome God!! Oh this story made my day!!!
    Romans 10:13 "For whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" NKJV
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