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    Apostasy I support Ron Paul and I am proud of it

    I support Ron Paul and the policies he stands for. I have every right to voice that opinion here. The amount of slander and outright dishonesty I have seen around here against a fellow American and brother in Christ is just astounding and should not be tolerated. It is really sad to see such slander coming out of those who would claim to be Christians. Ron Paul is not "anti-Isreal" or an "anti-Semite" just because he does not believe in sending US tax dollars to Israel. I don't believe in sending US tax dollars to any other nation including Israel. We are to support their right to be on the land they are on. There is nothing that says we must give another nation financial support, or that doing so should be coerced by the federal government.

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    You are okay with Ron Paul's anti-Semitism, then? And, yes, Paul is anti-Semitic, the proof is out there. Do some research. How does that work with being Christian?

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    There is nothing that says we must give another nation financial support
    If it's within our power to help Israel we should do so willingly and sacrificially if necessary. This is a matter of the HEART, not dollars and cents. Scripture makes it perfectly clear.

    We stand with Israel
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbT View Post
    If it's within our power to help Israel we should do so willingly and sacrificially if necessary. This is a matter of the HEART, not dollars and cents. Scripture makes it perfectly clear.
    Should the government coerce re-distributing wealth to the poor? I am certain everyone on this forum (and rightly so) would say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesla View Post
    Should the government coerce re-distributing wealth to the poor? I am certain everyone on this forum (and rightly so) would say no.
    Your answer has nothing to do with aid to Israel, nor does aid to Israel have anything to do with redistribution of wealth. This isn't a matter of socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gideon300 View Post
    You are okay with Ron Paul's anti-Semitism, then? And, yes, Paul is anti-Semitic, the proof is out there. Do some research. How does that work with being Christian?
    An anti-Semite is someone who has a dislike for all Jewish people, just because they are Jewish. It has nothing to do with foreign policy concerning the state of Israel. Find me one statement Paul has made indicating he thinks Jewish people as a group are inferior or that he has a dislike for them on the mere basis that they are Jewish, and I will retract my thread and not vote for him.

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    Should the government coerce re-distributing wealth to the poor?
    That is a straw man argument not worthy of a response. It's sad how you ignore the spiritual aspect of this issue. Be proud of supporting Paul if that's your desire but,personally, I'd be embarrassed to admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gideon300 View Post
    Your answer has nothing to do with aid to Israel, nor does aid to Israel have anything to do with redistribution of wealth. This isn't a matter of socialism.
    I think you missed my point :P

    God tells us to give to the poor, but as any conservative Christian will tell you, He never said that such giving should be coerced by the government.

    Likewise, He told us to bless Israel. And I am saying that likewise, there is nothing that says financial blessings should be coerced by federal government, using taxpayer money. Besides, as things are now, the US gives aid to both Israel AND the PA, which makes no sense at all. It would be better to give aid to neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesla View Post
    An anti-Semite is someone who has a dislike for all Jewish people, just because they are Jewish. It has nothing to do with foreign policy concerning the state of Israel. Find me one statement Paul has made indicating he thinks Jewish people as a group are inferior or that he has a dislike for them on the mere basis that they are Jewish, and I will retract my thread and not vote for him.
    Tesla, you answer very poorly. He supports Iran having nuclear weapons. Iran has made it known many times that it wants to wipe Israel off the planet. It doesn't take a genius to understand when you put 2+2 together that Ron Paul is an anti-Semite. Your request for information is ridiculous, Ron Paul is not stupid enough to make an outright genocidal statement. His statements about Jews are out there, again, research, research, research, don't be a blind follower.

    You knew exactly what you were doing when you put this thread up. You are here to stir up controversy. I looked through your posts, you I find hardly any posts about your faith or Biblical teaching. This is typical of Ron Paul supporters.

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    Default Ron Paul is not electible and I thank God for that.

    He does not support the Jewish people of Israel , and with regards to his
    belief that we should not go into other countries with our military, makes him the Arab Terrorist's best friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gideon300 View Post
    Tesla, you answer very poorly. He supports Iran having nuclear weapons. Iran has made it known many times that it wants to wipe Israel off the planet. It doesn't take a genius to understand when you put 2+2 together that Ron Paul is an anti-Semite. Your request for information is ridiculous, Ron Paul is not stupid enough to make an outright genocidal statement. His statements about Jews are out there, again, research, research, research, don't be a blind follower.

    You knew exactly what you were doing when you put this thread up. You are here to stir up controversy. I looked through your posts, you I find hardly any posts about your faith or Biblical teaching. This is typical of Ron Paul supporters.
    I put the thread up because it saddens me to see dishonesty condoned on a Christian forum. There are other posts elsewhere which state things like "Ron Paul loves muslims who fly airplanes into buildings" - are we to slander even those we disagree with?

    In Jude it says that when Micheal was disputing with Satan, he did not dare bring a slanderous accusation against him.

    I will not respond to the ad hominem at the end of your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesla View Post
    I will retract my thread and not vote for him.
    You can vote for whosoever you like.

    You cannot promote Mr. Paul here, you cannot retract what you wrote either.

    Ron Paul and his words against the other candidates are clear to everyone here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesla View Post
    I have every right to voice that opinion here....
    Actually no, you don't. This is a private forum with posting rules - not a free speech zone.

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    Don't suppose this article is on Paul's site, is it, Tesla? http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?1708...e-Israel-First

    From the article: Ron Paul is not simply anti-foreign aid, he is anti-Israel. That is the country he has singled out for blame over and over again. And while he has every right to his opinion, conservative Jewish groups have a right not to give him a forum. And his anti-Israel spewings are not welcome on this conservative Christian board either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesla View Post
    I support Ron Paul and the policies he stands for. I have every right to voice that opinion here. The amount of slander and outright dishonesty I have seen around here against a fellow American and brother in Christ is just astounding and should not be tolerated. It is really sad to see such slander coming out of those who would claim to be Christians. Ron Paul is not "anti-Isreal" or an "anti-Semite" just because he does not believe in sending US tax dollars to Israel. I don't believe in sending US tax dollars to any other nation including Israel. We are to support their right to be on the land they are on. There is nothing that says we must give another nation financial support, or that doing so should be coerced by the federal government.
    Oh stick a sock in it!! You might as well support Jimmy Carter then. Him and Ron Paul are both anti-semites of the highest caliber and would do nothing but make us the joke of the world. Oops, Obama's already doing that!!!

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    Default Pro Israel, pro 2nd Amendment, anti globalist, anti Big Government

    And I'm a Ron Paul supporter. PLEASE tell me what's wrong with that and what other candidates have these beliefs and can back it with truth.

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