Israeli & Zionist-bashing group: "Christ at the Checkpoint"

[iSong6:3]

And guess who this is from? Arabs and *palestinian* sympathizers who are *christians*. Their name? "Christ at the Checkpoint".

I heard about this on Hal Lindsey last night. They're going to have a conference in Bethlehem (*palestinian*-held) in March.

The battlelines are being drawn very starkly as our *brethren* call out those who support Israel in the Name of the Lord.

"An Open Letter to Christian Zionists" http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com...stian-zionists "...We write as evangelicals to you, our fellow evangelicals. On the shared basis of biblical authority, we ask you to reconsider your interpretation of Scripture, for the sake of God, humanity, the United States, and, yes, Israel itself, the Land and People you love."

Main page: http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com/

[LightOfMyLife]

And guess who this is from? Arabs and *palestinian* sympathizers who are *christians*. Their name? "Christ at the Checkpoint".

I heard about this on Hal Lindsey last night. They're going to have a conference in Bethlehem (*palestinian*-held) in March.

The battlelines are being drawn very starkly as our *brethren* call out those who support Israel in the Name of the Lord.

"An Open Letter to Christian Zionists" http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com...stian-zionists

Main page: http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com/

I heard about this happening in March. We have a lot of people calling themselves Christians who are adding to or taking away from The Bible. They are saying God is finished with the Jewish people calling this replacement theology. They need to read & study their Bible.

[iSong6:3]

I heard about this happening in March. We have a lot of people calling themselves Christians who are adding to or taking away from The Bible. They are saying God is finished with the Jewish people calling this replacement theology. They need to read & study their Bible.

Absolutely right. Hal had some very stern words as a warning for those who would work against Israel and add/take away from the Word of God.

[araj54]

I watched a video on you tube on the Berean Call channel featuring Paul Wilkinson as speaker. It opened my eyes to the great lengths satan's helpers are going to in their battle against the Jewish state. It made me ill watching it. Here is an excerpt of some of the content:

Christian Palestinianism [Excerpts]

by Thomas Ice

Paul Wilkinson, a British Christian Zionist, recently included a chapter in his book For Zion's Sake[1] about a movement that is the polar opposite of Christian Zionism he termed "Christian Palestinianism." He defines it as "a relatively new, largely intellectual, professedly Christian, anti-Zionist movement [that] has sprung up alongside [Christian Zionism], which I have classified as Christian Palestinianism."[2] "Naim Ateek essentially founded Christian Palestinianism in 1994 when he launched the Palestinian Ecumenical Liberation Theology Center known as Sabeel."[3]

Sabeel, at its Fifth International Conference in Jerusalem in 2004 entitled "Challenging Christian Zionism," advanced a leftist agenda against Christians who support the modern state of Israel. Some of those who claim to be evangelicals who attended and spoke at the conference include Stephen Sizer, Donald Wagner, Marc Ellis of Baylor University, and Gary Burge of Wheaton College. Demonstrating its alliance with Islam, the highlight of the conference for many was a meeting by the entire group with Yasser Arafat in his compound at Ramallah. The final statement issued at the conference included the following: "we warn that the theology of Christian Zionism is leading to the moral justification of empire, colonization, apartheid, and oppression."[4]

Christian Palestinianism is basically a system of thought that opposes Christian Zionism. Philip Saa'd, a Palestinian Christian who lives in Haifa, Israel says, "In recent years a phenomenon of palestinization has also occurred among the Christian Arabs who live in Israel." Saa'd describes these recent developments in the following way: "liberation theology," "amillennialism, Replacement theology and the Covenant of Grace theology." It also includes a "strong rejection of dispensationalism and of a literal interpretation of the Bible."[5] He notes that some Christian Palestinians "do not use the Old Testament as a source for their theology" and that "some writers still use the Old Testament but selectively," while he characterizes them as all using "a spiritual hermeneutic."[6]

Bat Ye'or, an Egyptian scholar, has an entire chapter in her recent book Eurabia about the Islamization of Christianity.[7] It is breathtaking to read her well-documented chapter in which she says, "Palestinian Marcionism (Palestinianism) paves the way for the Islamization of the Church as it prepares mentalities for an Islamic replacement theology."[8] How do they attempt to reach this goal? Palestinianism "presses for the removal of the Gospels from their Judaic matrix and their grafting onto Arab Palestinianism, thus bringing them closer to Islam."[9] After citing some of the organizations advocating such things, she notes: "The process of Islamization of Christianity is rooted precisely in this separation from Judaism and the Arabization and Palestinization of the Jewish Jesus."[10]"Many Christian Palestinians, like Muslims, do not admit to any historical or theological link between the biblical Israel, the Jewish people, and the modern State of Israel."[11]

[1] Paul Richard Wilkinson, For Zion's Sake: Christian Zionism and the Role of John Nelson Darby (Milton Keynes, England: Paternoster, 2007), xix, 308 pages.
[2] Wilkinson, For Zion's Sake, p. 48.
[3] Wilkinson, For Zion's Sake, p. 49.
[4] Information about the conference taken from a non-published report by Paul Wilkinson who attended the conference.
[5] Philip Saa'd, "How Shall We Interpret Scripture about the Land and Eschatology? Jewish and Arab Perspectives" in Wesley H. Brown and Peter F. Penner, editors, Christian Perspectives on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (Pasadena, CA: William Carey International University Press, 2008), p. 114.
[6] Saa'd, "How Shall We Interpret," p. 115.
[7] Bat Ye'or, Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis (Teaneck, NJ: Fairleigh Dickinson University Press, 2006), pp. 211–24.
[8] Ye'or, Eurabia, p. 213.
[9] Ye'or, Eurabia, p. 214.
[10] Ye'or, Eurabia, p. 214.
[11] Ye'or, Eurabia, p. 214.

http://www.worldviewtimes.com/print.php?&ArticleID=5046

[iSong6:3]

I watched a video on you tube on the Berean Call channel featuring Paul Wilkinson as speaker. It opened my eyes to the great lengths satan's helpers are going to in their battle against the Jewish state. It made me ill watching it. Here is an excerpt of some of the content:

Christian Palestinianism [Excerpts]

by Thomas Ice

Paul Wilkinson, a British Christian Zionist, recently included a chapter in his book For Zion's Sake[1] about a .......

Thanks, araj, the whole article is so great and so true.

ETA: Here is the full version: http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/vie...palestinianism

[WVBORN56]

Of all the bad Bible interpretation I think replacement theology is one that gets my ire up the most. Most of the people I know with this position come from a presby reform background. The guys I know are saved and are off the chrats smart. Maybe they are relying on their own brain power and not on the HS? It just seems to me when we are off base the HS is ususally screaming to us no, no, no. Are they not listening? I don't get it...

[Accepted]

Of all the bad Bible interpretation I think replacement theology is one that gets my ire up the most. Most of the people I know with this position come from a presby reform background. The guys I know are saved and are off the chrats smart. Maybe they are relying on their own brain power and not on the HS? It just seems to me when we are off base the HS is ususally screaming to us no, no, no. Are they not listening? I don't get it...

I don't get it either.

Recently, a college student friend met with my husband for lunch. This young man is passionate about his faith, and is studying Arabic languages ostensibly so he can witness to Muslims. In this environment, he seems to becoming influenced to feel sorry for the Palestinians and seeing Israel as the aggressor. During the lunch, he talked on and on, complaining against Israel, and when he finally paused, my husband looked at him and just simply said something like "It comes down to this. There is something very wrong in our relationship with the Lord and our understanding of the Word if we find ourselves opposing what He calls the 'apple of His eye.' " This student stopped, looked shocked, and said that no one had ever said that to him before.

No one had ever said that to him before? That's what surprises me. I used to think that anyone who had ever read the Bible would understand this. We are living in very strange times, where ordinary, authentic believers are shining like stars in a night sky.

[OnceWasLost]

Going through the list of "Speakers" is a who who of the contemplative, emergent religious left.

Tony Campolo
Shane Claiborne
John Ortberg
Lynne Hybels

Not your ordinary Biblical Evangelicals to be sure.

[4everSaved]

I don't get it either.

Recently, a college student friend met with my husband for lunch. This young man is passionate about his faith, and is studying Arabic languages ostensibly so he can witness to Muslims. In this environment, he seems to becoming influenced to feel sorry for the Palestinians and seeing Israel as the aggressor. During the lunch, he talked on and on, complaining against Israel, and when he finally paused, my husband looked at him and just simply said something like "It comes down to this. There is something very wrong in our relationship with the Lord and our understanding of the Word if we find ourselves opposing what He calls the 'apple of His eye.' " This student stopped, looked shocked, and said that no one had ever said that to him before.

No one had ever said that to him before? That's what surprises me. I used to think that anyone who had ever read the Bible would understand this. We are living in very strange times, where ordinary, authentic believers are shining like stars in a night sky.

God bless you and your husband! Do you think you reached him? I certainly hope so! What I think is wrong today with this type of "Christian" is that they never read the bible, period. Or maybe they never read the old testament?
I watched Hal too, I found it shocking to realize people can be so confused, maybe they watch too much main stream media,,, I used to. That type of media can confuse someone, they somehow convince people that Israel is the agressor, the occupier. It took me at least 20 years to pick up my bible and start reading it. I have to say that it opened my eyes! I used to be proud to call myself a liberal, and that women should have a choice with abortion. I am glad to say that reading my bible changed my whole outlook on this world we live in! Thank You Jesus! My heart goes to Israel and I would love to go there and just take it all in!

[As_Caleb_Says!]

And guess who this is from? Arabs and *palestinian* sympathizers who are *christians*. Their name? "Christ at the Checkpoint".

I heard about this on Hal Lindsey last night. They're going to have a conference in Bethlehem (*palestinian*-held) in March.

The battlelines are being drawn very starkly as our *brethren* call out those who support Israel in the Name of the Lord.

"An Open Letter to Christian Zionists" http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com...stian-zionists "...We write as evangelicals to you, our fellow evangelicals. On the shared basis of biblical authority, we ask you to reconsider your interpretation of Scripture, for the sake of God, humanity, the United States, and, yes, Israel itself, the Land and People you love."

Main page: http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com/

Are you questioning their salvation due to their disagreement over Zionism?

[iSong6:3]

Are you questioning their salvation due to their disagreement over Zionism?

"Disagreement over Zionism"?

They are actively spreading lies about Israel - are Christians supposed to have a lifestyle of lying?, they have come together to do this with greater force, they are consciously working against Israel, they refuse to see the obvious facts but have believed lies, they have let their politics overcome any spiritual truth; they do not take the Bible literally, they have taken away and added to God's Word, some names I don't recognize but many I do (some are in the Apostasy section) and this is not the only issue they are at odds with Almighty God over.

Check out this list of their Seven *Affirmations*: http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com...ogical-stances Does this sound Biblical to you?

Check out this list of speakers: http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com/index.php/speakers
Check out this one in particular: http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com...7-tony-campolo

Have you ever *discussed* the faith of *palestinian* christians? I have, in Israel, when I was yelled at that Jesus was a *palestinian* and so was Abraham and Moses, et al, the land is *Palestine*, the bloodline was through Ishmael to them, Israel is theirs, Jerusalem is theirs... Such is their faith, most of them. Their hatred of the Jewish people is so deep that it takes a long time, if ever, after such a one comes to the Lord for it to be eradicated from them.

[acceptedintheBeloved]

Are you questioning their salvation due to their disagreement over Zionism?

Oftentimes, when you trace back their theology to its root (and I'm not speaking strictly about the group in this article), it is evident that (in many cases, not all) they are "adding something" to the finished work of Christ (things like "baptismal regeneration," etc) as requirement for salvation... and as we know, this is not the gospel. It's not always readily apparent. A lot of people say they are Christians/believers, but have added "works" and "self-effort," instead of "faith in Christ alone."

[Scotty066]

Oftentimes, when you trace back their theology to its root (and I'm not speaking strictly about the group in this article), it is evident that (in many cases, not all) they are "adding something" to the finished work of Christ (things like "baptismal regeneration," etc) as requirement for salvation... and as we know, this is not the gospel. It's not always readily apparent. A lot of people say they are Christians/believers, but have added "works" and "self-effort," instead of "faith in Christ alone."

Exactly what i was thinking, If you dig into the basic theology of those who teach replacement theology, you find a fundamental flaw in their doctrine of salvation. I am sorry but this whole thing makes my blood boil. It's bad enough having to deal with the normal Israel/Jewish haters, but when you deal with people who claim to be "born again" and they put out this kind of garbage it gets to me.

[iSong6:3]

If your blood pressure is dangerously low and need it to spike, check this out:

Antisemitism and Christ at the Checkpoint 2012 http://seismicshock.files.wordpress....point-2012.pdf

Christ at the Checkpoint 2012, Dr Jim West & pro-Nazi theology http://seismic-shock.com/2011/11/21/...nazi-theology/

Christ at the Checkpoint speakers claim to oppose violence and racism http://seismic-shock.com/2011/10/24/...ce-and-racism/

More good information on this abomination at the links above.

[iSong6:3]

Which Christ preaches 'Christ at the Checkpoint'?
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 | Aviel Schneider

From March 5-9 Bethlehem Bible College will be hosting its second "Christ at the Checkpoint" conference. While Israelis are celebrating their ancient divine delivery during the Purim holiday, some 30 Christian leaders will be gathering in Bethlehem to raise the banner of "Palestinian Liberation Theology" as the only true hope for reconciliation and peace in the Middle East.

The target of most of these speakers will be "Christian Zionism," that theological viewpoint that supports modern Israel's continued prophetic relevance and destiny, and, in so doing, also supports Israel's biblical claim to the Land of Israel. For Bethlehem Bible College and like-minded institutions (such as "reconciliation" ministry Musalaha), Christian Zionism is a threat to peace and the fulfillment of God's Word.

By contrast, these Christian leaders claim their own position is apolitical and biblical. With massive assistance from abroad (some of the speakers head some of America's largest churches) they support the Palestinian struggle for freedom in their "occupied land."

One such speaker is British Christian writer Ben White, who recently published the book Palestinians in Israel: Segregation, Discrimination and Democracy. Israel's largest daily newspaper, Yediot Ahronot, on Monday highlighted the fact that the forward for White's book was written by extremist Israeli-Arab Knesset Member Haneen Zoabi.

Two years ago in March 2010, when the Bethlehem Bible College was hosting the first Christ at the Checkpoint event, Zoabi was calling for the start of a third terrorist uprising, or intifada, against Israel. Two months later she was found aboard the Mavi Marmara, the lead ship in an international flotilla trying to break the Israeli maritime blockade of the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.

That Zoabi agreed to write the forward for White's book is evidence of just how much he hates Israel. As a result, White is once again being labeled an anti-Semite by various Jewish organizations, according to the Yediot article.

What is curious to us is why the Bethlehem Bible College would invite someone like White, who expresses such scorn for Israel that he is embraced by Israel's most vocal antagonists, to a "Christian Conference of Hope and Reconciliation"?

It raises the question: Is Christ at the Checkpoint really about reconciliation between Arabs and Jews, or is it about further delegitimizing Israel with the aim of reversing the fulfillment of biblical prophecy? http://www.israeltoday.co.il/tabid/1...S/Default.aspx

[RaptureReady_7]

This was Hal Lindsey's 2nd sow on this. The first one had my blood pressure through the roof. It was almost as difficult listening to this 2nd one. I thought if I could go to Bethlehem, then I would be straightening out a few people, or they would be seeing stars over Bethlehem again.

[LightOfMyLife]

If your blood pressure is dangerously low and need it to spike, check this out:

Antisemitism and Christ at the Checkpoint 2012 http://seismicshock.files.wordpress....point-2012.pdf

Christ at the Checkpoint 2012, Dr Jim West & pro-Nazi theology http://seismic-shock.com/2011/11/21/...nazi-theology/

Christ at the Checkpoint speakers claim to oppose violence and racism http://seismic-shock.com/2011/10/24/...ce-and-racism/

More good information on this abomination at the links above.

It sure is nice to be washed in the blood & assurance of our salvation. It is sooooooooooooooo disgusssssssssssssssssting to hear of God's word not being upheld. These people are in trouble with Revelation 22:19. I that there will be uncompromising Christians show up, and quote scriptures pertaining to their sin of replacement theology. God is not finished with the Jewish people, and this is very clear when you read about the tribulation. We need to these people repent, and stand firm on God's word.

[HeIsEnough]

After you read her sig ACS, then read mine.

Are you questioning their salvation due to their disagreement over Zionism?

Joel 3:2
I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will put them on trial for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel, because they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

Ya, I'd say these meddlers are blind and ignorant. Perhaps the Lord will bring these so called peace activists down to the valley as well.

No matter what men say about the land of Israel, Palestinians and the like, the Lord doesn't like people dividing His land.

Its His response these people should fear, not American Zionists. Which is always the problem to me, these so called believers who love peace and the Palestinian people, who love to rebuke and admonish us ignorant and unlearned American Zionists, look out for the Lord's response to your letter, and to all your other activities. I ain't worried about it, perhaps you people should be.

We should craft our own "open letter" to these people.

[araj54]

These folks are going to have meetings in Bethlehem in March? Is that under Palestinian control?
I was praying about this earlier that God would open these peoples eyes and change their hearts. Afterwards I got a very uneasy feeling that they may get to witness first hand the "love" of a few of the not so kind and gentle Palestinians. I believe it was in Bethlehem where the loveable Pali's mowed down some members of a muslim wedding party because they committed the grievous sin of having music and dancing at their wedding.

I believe we need to be praying about this situation, because these people have no clue, and the outcome may not be as expected.

[iSong6:3]

These folks are going to have meetings in Bethlehem in March? Is that under Palestinian control?

Yep, it's *pali*.

I believe we need to be praying about this situation, because these people have no clue, and the outcome may not be as expected.

Prayer is always needed, but in the flesh, these *christians* are entwined with *pali* terrorists as has been proven, so I suppose although Bethlehem is off-limits to regular Christians and Jews, this group will get a special dispensation. The terrorists don't want to show their hand here, I wouldn't think.