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    John Hagee denies Jesus claimed to be the Messiah
    by Matt Slick

    Dr. John Hagee is the founder of the Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas. Cornerstone is a nondenominational church with several thousand members. Dr. John Hagee can be seen on more than 160 television stations and 50 radio stations across America. He is the author of at least 10 books.1

    On the surface everything looks good. On his website at jhm.org, Dr. John Hagee affirms the basics of the Christian faith including the deity of Christ, the Trinity, etc. His beliefs page is not very precise, but it appears to be within orthodoxy. The problem, however, is with his new book "In Defense of Israel" where Dr. Hagee apparently states that Jesus was not the Messiah. If you were to go to youtube.com2 you can hear where Dr. Hagee speaks regarding his book and says his book, In Defense of Israel, will prove that "Jesus did not come to Earth to be the Messiah," (20 seconds in) and that "...since Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered?" (32 seconds in). Obviously, this is a huge problem.

    Hagee defines 'Messiah' as political deliverer

    So, instead of making my judgment on a one minute sound bite, I bought the book and went through it. I didn't read the whole thing. Instead, I went to the section (Chapter 10, pages 121-169) where he dealt with Jesus as the Messiah. In short, Hagee takes several pages to characterize the Jewish idea of the Messiah as being a political deliverer who was supposed to free Israel from Roman oppression. This is very significant. Hagee defines Messiah not as a spiritual deliverer, but as a political one. To substantiate his position, Hagee calls Moses the messiah of Israel and speaks of the political deliverance of Israel from Egyptian oppression. Note what Hagee says in his book:

    1."...God gave Moses four signs to convince the children of Israel that he was their messiah... He knew he was anointed of God to overthrow Egypt and lead the Jewish people to the promised land." p. 136.

    2."The next two signs God gave Moses were to convince the children of Israel that Moses was their Messiah." p. 136

    3."When impetuous Peter could stand it no longer, he blurted out, 'You are the Christ.' Or in other words, 'You are the anointed one! You are the Messiah who will lead the Jews in their revolt against Rome.'" p. 140

    4."Even after his resurrection and repeated denials that he would not be the Messiah, his disciples were still hanging on to the last thread of hope that he would now smash realm (Acts 1:6)." p. 141
    A.For reference, Acts 1:6 says, "So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, “Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?”

    5."He refused to be their Messiah, choosing instead to be the Savior of the world." p. 143.
    Notice that in quote number 1 Hagee cites Moses as the Messiah of Israel who was to overthrow Egypt. In quote 3 Hagee interprets Peter's words to again relate the term Messiah as as a political deliverer. In quote 4 Hagee cites Acts 1:6 which is a reference to restoring Israel as a political power. So, we can conclude that Hagee is defining the Messiah as a political deliverer. Therefore, if we were to use this definition, Hagee is correct. Jesus did not come to be a political Messiah. But, Dr. John Hagee has still made a big mistake. He has failed to define his terms adequately and caused an uproar.


    The term Messiah and John Hagee's error

    Remember, in the video2 John Hagee said his book, In Defense of Israel, will prove that "Jesus did not come to Earth to be the Messiah," (20 seconds in) and that "...since Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered?" (32 seconds in). He did not clarify what he meant by Messiah - and I think he did it on purpose. Nevertheless, let's take a look at the word as it is used in the New Testament -- something Hagee should have done but didn't do in his chapter. The English word "messiah" is translated from the greek μeσσίας (messias) and is found only two times in the New Testament:

    1.John 1:41, "He found first his own brother Simon, and said to him, 'We have found the Messiah' (which translated means Christ)."

    2.John 4:25-26, "The woman said to Him, 'I know that Messiah is coming (He who is called Christ); when that One comes, He will declare all things to us.' 26 Jesus said to her, 'I who speak to you am He.'"
    We see that Jesus is called the Messiah in John 1:41 and in John 4:25-26 Jesus affirms that he is the Messiah. This flatly contradicts Hagee's statement that on the video that "...Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah." Dr. John Hagee is just plain wrong!


    There are two significant points worth mentioning here. First, the word "messiah" is translated as "Christ": "messiah" is the Old Testament Hebrew equivalent for the New Testament Greek "christ". So whenever we see the word Christ used in the New Testament we know it is speaking of Messiah. Second, Jesus himself affirmed that he was the Christ. Here are some additional scriptures that confirm this.

    1.Matt. 16:16-17, "And Simon Peter answered and said, 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.' 17 And Jesus answered and said to him, 'Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.'"

    2.Mark 14:61-62, "But He kept silent, and made no answer. Again the high priest was questioning Him, and saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?” 62 And Jesus said, “I am; and you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven."

    3.John 17:3, "And this is eternal life, that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent."

    4.See also Luke 24:26,46; John 10:23
    So, since Jesus affirmed that he was the Messiah (John 4:25-26) and the Christ (Matt. 16:17; Mark 14:61-62; and John 17:3), we must conclude that Hagee has clearly not done his homework regarding how the word is used in the Bible. He has failed to do proper research. How can this be? Why would Dr. Hagee fail to mention these verses and the plain scriptural teaching that Jesus is the Messiah?


    Conclusion

    I can see only two possibilities to explain Hagee's blatant oversight -- but I must state that these are only my opinions. First, perhaps Hagee worded his advertisement and book in such a way to cause controversy and increase sales. I don't know, but it caused me to buy the book so that I could research what he meant. Second, Dr. Hagee has such a huge agenda regarding his support for Israel that he has apparently allowed himself to do shoddy and incomplete research regarding this topic of the Messiah so as to support a particular view of Israel to the complete denouncement of what is known as Replacement Theology.

    There are a lot of people complaining about John Hagee's comments and rightfully so since they are misleading. They do not represent the full scope of the term Messiah and they are incendiary. Though I do not like defending him in this issue, I must remind the reader that as far as Hagee's definition of "messiah" being a political deliverer goes, he is correct; Jesus did not come to be a political deliverer and free Israel from Roman rule. However, Dr. Hagee needs to be far more clear and define his terms. I'm convinced he knew the uproar his statements would cause.

    Furthermore, he needs to reassess his comments and adopt a more biblically complete position regarding the Hebrew term Messiah (which is equivalent of the Greek term Christ). For example, Christ is Messiah (John 1:41); Christ as Son of Man coming on the clouds (Matt. 26:63-64); Christ as Savior (Luke 2:11); Christ as King of the Jews (Luke 23:2-3); Christ will reign forever (Rev. 11:15), etc. These are definitely "political" as they show Christ as someone who is King and who reigns. He also should address Jesus' very clear claim to be the Messiah in John 4:25-26. I mean, how could he not address it?3

    Finally, there were other things in the book that I thought were problematic, but the intent of this article is not to focus on them. Nevertheless, I believe that Dr. Hagee writes with a very specific agenda, the ultra-support of Israel, and I think it has clouded his judgment. He needs to step back, reassess his work, and clarify his position.

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    1. http://www.jhm.org/pastor.asp
    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0K1GEs2gAI
    3. I found no reference in the book to John 4:25-26. If anyone finds it, please let me know. http://carm.org/john-hagee-denies-je...be-the-messiah
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    There is much more wrong with John Hagee than this one incident.

    I used to watch him all the time. I stopped when I heard his Sermon, The 5 things Grace cannot do:

    The 5 things Grace cannot do:

    1. Grace cannot excuse the failure to meet God's conditions for Salvation.
    If you live your life and don't confess your sins to God Almighty through
    the authority of Christ and His Blood, you are going straight to hell with a
    non stop ticket.
    Romans 10:9

    2. Grace cannot keep men saved when they are sinning against God. Galations
    5:19-21.
    God will not forgive sin if you don't repent, John 8:11.

    3.***Grace does not cancell the death penalty when saved men break the Law
    of God***
    Romans 6:16-23, Hebrews 10:26-29

    4. God does not cancell your responsibility, Romans 14:10. If you are not
    living according to the dictates of God's Word you will be judged at the
    Great White Throne Judgement.

    5. God's Grace does not guarentee that every man is going to be eternally
    saved, Romans 3:5. Follow the logic, if the name was in the book of life
    you're saved therefore it could not be blotted out of the book if the idea
    of once saved always saved were true. Hebrews 10:26.

    Added: John Hagee also teaches Duel Covenant Theology.

    (also added, I know you are aware of all of this, I added it for those who are not)
    ((((HUGS))))
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    Oh wow, I am severely disappointed...I have listened to John Hagee many times on tv in the past. I always liked him because of his support of Israel and his love and teaching of Bible prophecy...so, what are we supposed to do, not listen to anyone preach these days????? I can only read the Bible for so long and can only understand so much on my own...I can read one passage and totally think it is referring to something else...ugh. I really want the the Thru the Bible series w/ J. Vernon McGee...I love listening to him speak...love his voice!
    “My Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.” (John 6:40)


    BTW, my son is now in the 7th grade!

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    I know how you feel (((HUG)))
    Here is a list of good teachers posted right here at RR
    http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?1249...(inconclusive)
    I stand with Israel, now and forever.
    Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

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    Thank you so much for the added info, Sandra.

    It's hard, I know, Mommytoa3rdgradeboy (who's older now ).

    It just seems clear to me that for someone who *loves* Israel so much but would change his theology to say they don't need Jesus to be saved...what kind of love is that, to withhold the Gospel from the Jewish people and give them false hope of eternal life?
    "...earnestly contend for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints." Jude 1:3b


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mommytoa3rdgradeboy View Post
    I really want the the Thru the Bible series w/ J. Vernon McGee...I love listening to him speak...love his voice!

    If I may say so, I'm also a fan of riding the Bible Bus with Dr. McGee. You know you can catch the podcasts right online at http://www.thruthebible.org/site/c.i...rnon_McGee.htm

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    My guess is John Hagee really does love the Jewish people and he thinks he is doing them a favor by agreeing with them that Jesus is not the Messiah. IOW, according to Hagee the Jews can rightfully still be on the lookout for their political deliverer.

    I am also concerned about Mr. Hagee's dual covenant theology beliefs. He does not think the Jews need to believe and trust in Jesus because Jews and gentiles are handled differently when it comes to salvation. I heard this of him, but maybe I'm wrong? Anyhow, as great as he can sound when preaching, I do not feel comfortable listening to someone with different beliefs than what is stated in the Bible.

    His love for the Jews has caused him to go against the Truth of Scripture, IMO.
    Jesus saith unto him, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father but by me." John 14:6

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    Hagee needs to be muffled.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    Hagee needs to be muffled.
    Short & Sweet
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    I would never listen to Hagee.I have experienced his teachings.

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    Hagge needs to leave the ministry and work a job with little to no speaking opportunities or supervision of other personnel. I agree that this is NOT the first time he has made a claim contrary to scripture. Amazingly he is still very popular and followed; but not so much amazing when you look at Hinn, Copeland, Jakes, White and the other numerous blasphemers "leading" the TV church scene. They will answer to Christ sooner or later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Amazingly he is still very popular and followed; but not so much amazing when you look at Hinn, Copeland, Jakes, White and the other numerous blasphemers "leading" the TV church scene.
    People like big personalities that exude confidence
    I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked.
    For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor;
    no good thing does He withhold from those whose walk is blameless.

    Psalm 84:10-11

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    There's a lot of people out there who really blow it when it comes to Hebrews 10:26. A lot of sin is done willingly, no one puts a gun to anyone's head and forces them to sin, we just do it sometimes out of rebellion. Prime example, Adam and Eve. Eve knew she wasn't supposed to eat the fruit, she even repeated God's command to the devil, before she did it; Genesis 3:3. That's willingly sinning. People just need to read the context 10:26 is speaking in which is apostasy, in that there remains no sacrifice in other religions except through Jesus. They need to read the whole chapter, not just the one verse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    Hagee needs to be muffled.
    A big, hearty to that, Buzz!

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    I was willing to give John Hagee the benefit of a doubt a few years back because I enjoyed his prophecy teachings so much, but there was always a little nagging feeling when I watched him because of his duel covenant teachings. I totally broke away from following him when he prayed for the unity of all religions and stood on stage linking arms with those who hate Israel. How can he stand in the pulpit preaching against the very thing that he ended up participating in?

    The pickings are getting very, very slim as far as finding sound doctrine being preached/taught in churches in these dark days.

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    Hagee is in line with all the other prosperity gospel teachers. Sad thing is many of these teachers are the ones Jesus spoke of in Matthew 7:22-23

    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
    Christ my Saviour, my King, in YOU I trust.

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    With as much support of Israel and Hebraic knowledge Hagee insinuates, to say that Jesus did not claim to be the Messiah is a graphic smear to his already shattered credibility. Jesus is not only the Messiah of Israel, but of all who will believe on His name. All that time in the limelight has warped Hagee's message.
    The first time He will come for us. The next time, He will come with us.

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    Thumbs up John Hagee clarifies: Jesus is Messiah

    Hagee has now offered some clarification explaining that he does not deny Jesus as the Messiah. He published his response in the article "A Special Message from Pastor John Hagee Regarding His Book In Defense of Israel. Read it and see what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    Hagee needs to be muffled.
    Hagee is getting old. It never fails to happen when these preachers who use to be solid get older they start teaching weird things. It even happened to Billy Graham with the Catholic stuff. You don't hear from Graham anymore as I think the muffled him, too.

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    I can't even imagine what is going on here but I am disappointed. I liked listening to him once in a while. However, if Jesus is not the messiah then why bother with any of this? Why would anyone go to Hagee's church or support his ministry? Take that to the bank Mr. Hagee. Such a shame he is err in his ways.
    Come to me all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28

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