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    Apostasy The Harbinger - A Counterfeit Theology of Nationalism *merged*

    This book is just amazing..my brother called me and said you need to read this book now.....he is was right! Now I am telling you read it now!

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    Thanks for the endorsement. Maybe you can give some more info. such as, who wrote it, is it fiction and what is it about?

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    There's a book review on the rr main site
    I accept nothing from man as truth...
    only that, One is the truth. (John 14-6)

    Pre-Flood/Pre-Trib (Genesis 5-24)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeper View Post
    This book is just amazing..my brother called me and said you need to read this book now.....he is was right! Now I am telling you read it now!
    Can you be a little more specific? A quick search on Barnes and Noble brings up 184 matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistos View Post
    There's a book review on the rr main site
    Thanks Pistos, will go check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistos View Post
    There's a book review on the rr main site
    Pistos are you referring to the forum main page or the rr home page?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistos View Post
    There's a book review on the rr main site
    What is the "Main Site"?

    Thanks!

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    The main site is: http://www.raptureready.com/

    Note that the "main site" and the forum are not synonymous, these are two separate sites that are linked.

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    I read the book. The premise of what is true in the book is very interesting. I e-mailed the author regarding a couple of facts in the book that I knew to be untrue... never heard back. A lot of the stuff does check out and I was left thinking that he's maybe onto something with regards to God's judgment/impending judgment on America. Regarding the story itself, the dialogue between the main guy in the book and the person who is most likely an angel got kind of old to me. It was good enough.
    Tall Timbers

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    Regarding the story itself, the dialogue between the main guy in the book and the person who is most likely an angel got kind of old to me

    I agree. I read the book but did not check his facts. What did you find untrue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica222 View Post
    I agree. I read the book but did not check his facts. What did you find untrue?
    2 statements where he'd indicated we'd had the worst two U.S. financial market collapses on specific days... specific days that were important to support his whole thesis. The real ones occurred in Oct of 1987 and in 1929... far and away. He used one day drops that were more recent that pale in comparison to '87 and '29. He based the severity on number of points dropped v.s. points as a percentage of the total. That is disingenuous.

    He was accurate about 777 point drop in the market on a specific day. I'm and investor and remembered that on account of the special number.
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    I really enjoyed the book.

    Even taking out what TT said, this book makes you go hmmmmmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJW81867 View Post
    I really enjoyed the book.

    Even taking out what TT said, this book makes you go hmmmmmmmm.
    It definitely made me/makes me wonder.
    Tall Timbers

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    Default The Harbinger

    Has anyone read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn? He is was doing a Q&A on his book tonight at a Church. I believe he is a Rabbi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Timbers View Post
    It definitely made me/makes me wonder.
    I agree with JJW, but I didn't get into the specifics that TT did. However, the similarities between ancient Israel and America are eerie....
    This world is not my home. I'm just passing through. If heaven's not my home, O Lord, what would I do? The angels beckon me from heaven's open door, and I can't feel at home in this world anymore."
    Complete justice for us will come only "when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels" (v. 7).

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    I saw this book in the bookstore several weeks ago but didn't buy it then. As I usually do, I did a little research on it before purchasing. When I saw that several people here thought the theology was pretty sound, I went ahead and purchased the book last night. Interestingly, my wife even said that she may want to read it after me...which almost never happens.

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    I just got the book from my church....I wasn't sure if it was good for me to read or not....I guess I will read it now... Thanks all!


    Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

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    So...I'm on the Fourth Harbinger in the book (up late last night reading) and it hit me...Israel's response to the first couple Harbingers (and likewise, America's) are yet another parallel to that of the world's response to the 21 Judgements leading up to the Second Coming...defiance. Just like Israel and America, there were (or will be) those that see the judgements for what they are...a call to national repentence...and those people were/will be ridiculed and persecuted. It's sad really...how history seems to repeat like this.

    Still reading...

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    Revelation 9:17
    And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.



    I always though these colours were significant. They are the component colours of every computer printer. Magenta, Cyan, and Yellow.


    I know my printer is a cursed beast sometimes........
    It's ALL about Jesus. The Son of God - Emanuel - The Mighty God - Our Salvation.

    John 1:1-3 NKJV --- Luke 22:42 NKJV --Romans 3:23 NKJV, Rom 5:8 NKJV, Rom 8:28 NKJV, Rom 8:31 NKJV, Rom8:38-39 NKJV, ---Titus 1:2 NKJV - Heb 6:18 NKJV --- John 14:6 NKJV --- 1 John 5:13 NKJV --- Acts 16:29-31 NKJV ... John 6:28-29 NKJV... 1John 2:22 NKJV... Heb 10:11-13 NKJV

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    As they say, "coincidences are not kosher".

    I came across another reference in Amos 5:4-12 to "houses of hewn stone":

    (4) For thus says the LORD to the house of Israel:
    " Seek Me and live;
    (5) But do not seek Bethel,
    Nor enter Gilgal,
    Nor pass over to Beersheba;
    For Gilgal shall surely go into captivity,
    And Bethel shall come to nothing.
    (6) Seek the LORD and live,
    Lest He break out like fire in the house of Joseph,
    And devour it,
    With no one to quench it in Bethel—
    (7) You who turn justice to wormwood,
    And lay righteousness to rest in the earth!"
    (8) He made the Pleiades and Orion;
    He turns the shadow of death into morning
    And makes the day dark as night;
    He calls for the waters of the sea
    And pours them out on the face of the earth;
    The LORD is His name.
    (9) He rains ruin upon the strong,
    So that fury comes upon the fortress.
    (10) They hate the one who rebukes in the gate,
    And they abhor the one who speaks uprightly.
    (11) Therefore, because you tread down the poor
    And take grain taxes from him,
    Though you have built houses of hewn stone,
    Yet you shall not dwell in them;
    You have planted pleasant vineyards,
    But you shall not drink wine from them.

    (12) For I know your manifold transgressions
    And your mighty sins:
    Afflicting the just and taking bribes;
    Diverting the poor from justice at the gate.

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