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    I just stumbled across this and thought I'd paste it here. I haven't seen the movie, or read the book, but it looks very dark and Big Brother'ish to me.

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    The setting for this trendy teenage tale is an oppressive nation called Panem that occupies what once was America. From its well-protected Capitol, it controls its 12 regional Districts using sophisticated surveillance and communication technology.

    The main character, sixteen-year-old Katniss, lives with her mother and twelve-year-old sister, Prim, in District 12, the poorest in the land. Since her father died in a coal-mine disaster, Katniss has been the family's sole provider. Day after day, she and her friend Gale hunt rabbits and gather herbs and berries on forbidden government land.

    As George Orwell and our globalist leaders knew well, common enemies and celebrations inspire solidarity. The rulers of Panem seem to agree. Their catalyst for oneness is the annual "Hunger Games," which bear an ominous resemblance to the deadly but popular battles in the ancient Roman Coliseum.

    Each of the 12 Districts must offer a yearly contribution to the Capitol in the form of two chosen "Tributes": a boy and a girl (ages twelve through eighteen). According to standard government rules, those twenty-four Tributes will kill each other until only one is left. And while the teenagers fight for their lives, the eyes of every household across the land are glued to the televised battlegrounds. That's the law.

    Somehow the Capitol is able to film every dramatic scene. The agonizing fear of the hunted, the cruel plots of the strong, the miserable hiding places, the horrible injuries, the freezing night-time temperature, the manufactured rain... everything is visible to the families across the land. Their tears or cheers would depend on the fate of their own two Tributes -- and on the success of the pre-game promotion of popular contenders.

    The Tributes are chosen through a lottery. In District 12, the lot falls on sweet little Prim, who screams out in terror. So big sister Katniss rushes forward to take her place.

    Perhaps the author was inspired by the old Greek myth about Theseus, son of the sea god Poseidon. You may remember the story. A monstrous Minotaur inhabits a labyrinth under the magnificent palace of King Minos. Half man and half bull, it feeds only on human flesh. Periodically, seven maidens and seven young men were sacrificed to the menacing beast.

    In this myth, the mighty Theseus arrives just in time for the human sacrifice. He offers to take the place of one of the young victims. Not wanting Theseus to die, the daughter of King Minos gives him a magic ball of thread that would guide him through the maze of the labyrinth. He finds the beast surrounded by skulls and bones and kills it.

    Let's compare that myth with the courage of the lowly but faithful David, the shepherd boy who became king. When the giant Goliath threatened the nation and challenged Saul's soldiers to fight him, they trembled in their boots. Neither myth nor God's Truth could arouse them to try. So the young boy volunteered -- and won! Why?

    Not because he was strong and clever, but because -- in his weakness -- he trusted His sovereign Lord. He knew that "with God all things are possible.” (Mark 10:27)

    Commanded to Kill

    The Tributes are brought to the Capitol for a week of training, grooming and publicity. After all, the success of the games demands heroes and heroines. Building the needed familiarity involves pre-battle promotion for each team. In glittering outfits and bathed in artificial flames, Katniss and her partner -- presented as lovers -- win praise from across the nation.

    Their next stop (the final one for most) is this year's chosen wilderness. Unlike the more compassionate Peeta, Katniss is focused on personal survival. She trusts no one! After all, no one is safe until all others are killed. That rule would change before the games are over, but not yet. Not until nearly all are dead.

    After hiding in the forest, desperately searching for water, escaping deadly bugs, surviving horrible injuries, and killing human foes, Katniss is back at the starting point with two other survivors: Peeta and their shrewd arch-foe Cato. Injured and desperate, all three face a new, unexpected threat: twenty-one murderous wolf-like "mutant" beasts -- part animal and part human. As Katniss observes,

    "Cato lies on his side at the very top of the horn, twenty feet above the ground, gasping to catch his breath.... Now's my chance to finish him off. I stop midway up the horn and load another arrow, but just as I'm about to let it fly, I hear Peeta cry out. ...the mutts are right on his heels. 'Climb!' I yell....

    "The mutts are beginning to assemble. As they join together, they raise up again to stand easily on their back legs giving them an eerily human quality. Each has a thick coat, some with fur that... vary from jet black to what I can only describe as blond. There’s something else about them, something that makes the hair rise up on the back of my neck...

    "Then one of them...with silky waves of blond fur takes a running start and leaps onto the horn. Its back legs must be incredibly powerful because it lands a mere ten feet below us, its pink lips pulled back in a snarl. For a moment it hangs there, and in that moment I realize what else unsettled me about the mutts. The green eyes glowering at me are unlike any dog or wolf, any canine I’ve ever seen. They are unmistakably human. ... The blonde hair, the green eyes, the number ... it’s Glimmer [one of the dead Tributes]. I fire into its throat. Its body twitches and flops onto the ground... [His second death?]

    "...I examine the pack, taking in the various sizes and colors. The small one with the red coat and amber eyes... Foxface! And there, the ashen hair and hazel eyes of the boy from District 9 who died as we struggled for the backpack! And worst of all, the smallest mutt, with dark glossy fur, huge brown eyes.... Teeth bared in hatred. Rue! [She was a sweet, twelve-year-old girl before she was killed]...

    "Have they been programmed to hate our faces particularly because we have survived and they were so callously murdered? And the ones we actually killed... do they believe they’re avenging their own deaths?"

    No answers were given. But the realms of myth, imagination and occultism have their own ways of making mysterious manifestations and reincarnations seem plausible. Many are found in the myths and practices behind shamanism, Hinduism, sorcery, witchcraft and Native American traditions. They all clash with Christianity. Consider these warnings:

    "There shall not be found among you anyone who... practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord..." Deuteronomy 18:10-12



    "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Ephesians 5:11

    We shouldn't be surprised by such stark contradictions to America's founding beliefs and values. After all, The Hunger Games fits into a dark world that supposedly replaced our own increasingly corrupt land. With today's delight in digital deceptions and mind-changing stimuli, our former free and moral nation may well fade away, swallowed up by a dictatorship that could encompass the world.

    The Better Way

    You read the comments near the top. Why were the readers so enthralled? What kinds of values did they find so captivating? Why do they "feel good" about a futuristic culture that turns mass murder into entertaining games? Let me guess:

    The captivating killing fields?
    The strong, self-confident heroine?
    The sensual, shimmering, fiery costumes in the opening ceremony?
    The mandatory romance that titillated Panem's nation-wide audience?
    The reincarnated Tributes whose dead bodies revive and return as snarling wolf-like predators?

    All these themes and fantasies fit our times. They stir curiosities that can't easily be quenched. They spread corrupt values that guide future behavior and preferences. They dull our children's desire for God's truth and ways.

    Through schools and entertainment, their minds have already been attuned to a culture of myth, violence, sensual thrills and feminist superiority. Biblical truth is incompatible with mind-changing messages that bombard them from the Internet, computer games, peers and books. Following the crowd becomes natural; following God is not.

    Yet, for our children today, the only safe place is with God -- hidden in Him, walking with Him, and wearing His armor. We need to pray for them -- asking God to shelter them in His love and fill them with His Spirit, so that they too can know Him and love His Word.

    "O our God... we have no power against this great multitude that is coming against us; nor do we know what to do, but our eyes are upon You." 2 Chronicles 20:12

    "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
    "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand." Ephesians 6:10-13

    "Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. " Romans 8:37

    What on earth are parents thinking to let their kids wallow in this stuff?

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    I can't comment on the movie itself because I have not read the book or seen the movie (no intention to), but I can tell you it was all my students (high school) were talking about this past week.
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    I plan to watch it once it comes out on blockbuster.

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    I have neither read the book nor seen the movie. I'm not an avid movie fan, so I'm not sure I'll see this one. I have 3 granddaughters in their teens who are wantng to see the movie though. Actually, I think 2 of them saw it last night.


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    I have not read the book, but have been curious about the whole movie, I can't believe how many people are taking their children to go see it, christian and non christian. My son's school took the 8th graders to see it yesterday because they had read the book. I am just worried because it sounds violent and children killing children does not sound like something I would want my children watching. One parent was descibing it as this is what will happen to our society if we are not careful.

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    I might read the book.

    IMO, it is setting the stage for gladiator style games during the tribulation.

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    After reading the article the op posted I will say.................................I read all three books....................loved them (except for the last but that is because of character development). We went to see the midnight movie as a family and LOVED it, but the movie is not for 13 or under. It is not a children's movie! There was no sex in the movie and only one minor curse word that I heard in the movie, but it is after 9pm tv violent.

    The article was very opinionated and got it wrong on most levels! They were never presented as 'lovers' and that offends me that they used those terms. They were presented as boy friend and girl friend that is all; there was no sexual overtones in the book at all. There was much more in the article that I could fault, the article was just so wrong.


    We also read the books as a family, it is well written and a very quick read. It is not so much a movie about the games but as the books develop it is more about a corrupt government that suppresses its people by having them "participate" in the games, the people (other than those who live in the capitol) DO NOT want the games but they are forced to or death for the family. The games are a way of keeping the districts (there are 12, used to be 13 but it was blown off the map because they rebelled) under control. The capitol district is the only group that doesn't have children who are forced to participate in the games. The capitol lives in extreme excess, they don't understand hunger or want. Katniss is a character who is forced to do things she doesn't want to do and that is what she deals with for the rest of the remaining books. As I said I loved the books it is no more violent than anything on tv after 9pm but people like to jump on band wagons.

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    I accidentally read a spoiler, so I am wondering if I want to read them at all now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CircleSlide View Post
    After reading the article the op posted I will say.................................I read all three books....................loved them (except for the last but that is because of character development). We went to see the midnight movie as a family and LOVED it, but the movie is not for 13 or under. It is not a children's movie! There was no sex in the movie and only one minor curse word that I heard in the movie, but it is after 9pm tv violent.

    The article was very opinionated and got it wrong on most levels! They were never presented as 'lovers' and that offends me that they used those terms. They were presented as boy friend and girl friend that is all; there was no sexual overtones in the book at all. There was much more in the article that I could fault, the article was just so wrong.


    We also read the books as a family, it is well written and a very quick read. It is not so much a movie about the games but as the books develop it is more about a corrupt government that suppresses its people by having them "participate" in the games, the people (other than those who live in the capitol) DO NOT want the games but they are forced to or death for the family. The games are a way of keeping the districts (there are 12, used to be 13 but it was blown off the map because they rebelled) under control. The capitol district is the only group that doesn't have children who are forced to participate in the games. The capitol lives in extreme excess, they don't understand hunger or want. Katniss is a character who is forced to do things she doesn't want to do and that is what she deals with for the rest of the remaining books. As I said I loved the books it is no more violent than anything on tv after 9pm but people like to jump on band wagons.
    Thanks for your post. It made this Mama feel a bit better about her decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CircleSlide View Post
    After reading the article the op posted I will say.................................I read all three books....................loved them (except for the last but that is because of character development). We went to see the midnight movie as a family and LOVED it, but the movie is not for 13 or under. It is not a children's movie! There was no sex in the movie and only one minor curse word that I heard in the movie, but it is after 9pm tv violent.

    The article was very opinionated and got it wrong on most levels! They were never presented as 'lovers' and that offends me that they used those terms. They were presented as boy friend and girl friend that is all; there was no sexual overtones in the book at all. There was much more in the article that I could fault, the article was just so wrong.


    We also read the books as a family, it is well written and a very quick read. It is not so much a movie about the games but as the books develop it is more about a corrupt government that suppresses its people by having them "participate" in the games, the people (other than those who live in the capitol) DO NOT want the games but they are forced to or death for the family. The games are a way of keeping the districts (there are 12, used to be 13 but it was blown off the map because they rebelled) under control. The capitol district is the only group that doesn't have children who are forced to participate in the games. The capitol lives in extreme excess, they don't understand hunger or want. Katniss is a character who is forced to do things she doesn't want to do and that is what she deals with for the rest of the remaining books. As I said I loved the books it is no more violent than anything on tv after 9pm but people like to jump on band wagons.
    I read them and liked them as well.

    I have a friend who is a Christian and a high school librarian. She is on the cusp of what the kids want to read and often gets free books from publishers, but must use her own good judgement on what books to stock in her library. She was the one who told me about the series and that they were worth the read. I haven't seen the movie yet, I may or may not see it in theaters, depending on schedules. I will see it on DVD/cable.

    In the series, everyone is fighting for survival, a very prescient parallel to our own modern world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CircleSlide View Post
    After reading the article the op posted I will say.................................I read all three books....................loved them (except for the last but that is because of character development). We went to see the midnight movie as a family and LOVED it, but the movie is not for 13 or under. It is not a children's movie! There was no sex in the movie and only one minor curse word that I heard in the movie, but it is after 9pm tv violent.

    The article was very opinionated and got it wrong on most levels! They were never presented as 'lovers' and that offends me that they used those terms. They were presented as boy friend and girl friend that is all; there was no sexual overtones in the book at all. There was much more in the article that I could fault, the article was just so wrong.


    We also read the books as a family, it is well written and a very quick read. It is not so much a movie about the games but as the books develop it is more about a corrupt government that suppresses its people by having them "participate" in the games, the people (other than those who live in the capitol) DO NOT want the games but they are forced to or death for the family. The games are a way of keeping the districts (there are 12, used to be 13 but it was blown off the map because they rebelled) under control. The capitol district is the only group that doesn't have children who are forced to participate in the games. The capitol lives in extreme excess, they don't understand hunger or want. Katniss is a character who is forced to do things she doesn't want to do and that is what she deals with for the rest of the remaining books. As I said I loved the books it is no more violent than anything on tv after 9pm but people like to jump on band wagons.
    I agree with you completely! The person who wrote the above article has it completely wrong. CircleSlide cover many of the issues that the article is off on above so I won't address those.

    I have read all three books and am planning on seeing the movie this weekend. The books were excellent. The part where it talks about the mutts---the article stated it as reincarnated people. This is completely off base. The book made it very clear that these mutations were created in a lab somewhere by the evil capital to produce more emotional trauma to the 3 remaining tributes. Another thing is it is not about survival of the fittest. It is about standing up against evil. Being brave even when you are the weakest and have no chance of success. The books also deal with those that are so materialist versus those that are struggling just to feed themselves. The excess of the people at the capital city is shown to be a bad and illogical thing. There is actually alot of good in the books, the characters and the story lines. The main characters deal with some impossible issues and each struggle to find a moral ground to survive what is happening to themselves, the ones they love and their country. Lots to talk about to your children if they read the books or see the movie. Good solid values all in all in the main characters.


    I will add this...I do wish they were written by a Christian. If so, there were many places in the book that the main character's could look to God for answers...it would have added a lot to this story. But since it is just a sci-fi story, it is a good story as it stands. I just think adding God into it would have made it better.

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    It was filmed here in NC and there is a lot of promotion of it all over the news. It opened in one city at 9:p.m. last Thursday and was sold out.

    I don't plan to see it and passed along the plot to my family as they have pre-teens and I did not want them to accidently go without knowing what would transpire in the movie. It sounds "devilish" to me.


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    Thanks, Circleslide, for your input.

    My husband and teen children (19 down to 14) have read the books. The big thing to keep in mind is that these books depict a dystopia. Katniss is in a very difficult, very evil situation, and she must do the right thing (well, survive first!). Not only must she survive, not only must she endeavor to save the life of the guy she likes, but also she and he work to show up the evil of the rulers who set up these games.

    I think it's a good thing that there's a movie and a book series showing an evil government, because there are too many other things in kids lives that tell them government is god. The current administration wants to do away with charitable deductions and is trying to limit Christian charities in other ways as well -- all as part of their effort to get people not to look to their churches, or themselves . .., and only to the government for jobs, for food, for education . . .

    The Lord of the Flies was a very difficult, horrible book to read (I read it 30 years ago), but it had a very profound message: even well-brought up, elite young people can descend into savagery. In other words, we all have evil within us that needs to be restrained.

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    i have no desire to ever see this as i didn't have a desire to see Harry Potter, Twilight or any of that hoopla. I'm a film snob though and work in the film industry so i love independent/foreign films and REAL stories not this hashed out balderdash.

    the world is lame in loving this garbage and it plays with the reality shows which in essence are like two people in the forum fighting each other to the death (w/words anyway). that is "entertainment" these days in this now barbaric society. sad really.

    i even have a christian friend that has read all the books and has been obsessed with the movie. don't get it!!
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    I have just read that it is pretty violent and that the director will try to tone it down to make it PG-13.. Although PG-13 movies now are more like R movies in the past.
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    I have been watching the whole hunger games phenomenon with interest. It seems as if half of my Facebook friends have been to the movie or are big fans of the book. My 17 year old son and friends of his from our very conservative Christian school have been to the movie. My 11 year old who is not a big reader has devoured the series. I have not road-blocked it because I read the 1st book and did not find the objectionable spiritual content that made us avoid Harry Potter and the Twilight series. To me the main issue besides the violence is the absence of God and prayer. If there is no God, you do what you have to do to survive in a sinful world, and you develop your own morality. I would like to be part of a discussion on this with the kids that are like moths to a flame with this story.




    Other than entertaining millions and millions of teenagers and making millions and millions of dollars, the net result of The Hunger Games is likely to be:

    1) Females will be further distanced from their traditional feminine characteristics that (sadly, some wrongly insist) suggested they were not being real “girls” if they were extremely physically violent.

    2) Young teens and many pre-teens will be awakened to the fact that they are capable of extreme violence, given the right set of circumstances.

    3) A few psychologically vulnerable teens—who would have come to no good anyhow—may be inspired to replicate the film’s violence.
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    One district exempt and living in opulance.

    The rest fighting to survive.


    Perfect set up for communism....

    Its always that elite ruling class manipulating the rest of us...

    It seems the best way to avoid a dystopian society..... is to create one now.


    It will be an interesting ... discussion with kids who have already read it

    Just like Harry Potter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AWillow View Post
    i have no desire to ever see this as i didn't have a desire to see Harry Potter, Twilight or any of that hoopla. I'm a film snob though and work in the film industry so i love independent/foreign films and REAL stories not this hashed out balderdash.

    the world is lame in loving this garbage and it plays with the reality shows which in essence are like two people in the forum fighting each other to the death (w/words anyway). that is "entertainment" these days in this now barbaric society. sad really.

    i even have a christian friend that has read all the books and has been obsessed with the movie. don't get it!!
    sorry i didn't know that the word i used for "hoopla" lol was considered bad. i guess it's different viewpoints but i'll try not to use that again.

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    Our society appears darker every day. Yes, sounds like folks in the Trib to me...

    I remember the movie "Cold Mtn", with Nicole Kidman. It took place during the Civil War, but I remember thinking how it depicted the baseness and evil of human nature when society breaks down.

    I would not see this trash-this is entertainment???

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    No interest in seeing the movie or reading the books. Kids killing kids just isn't something I have any interest in seeing or reading about - I have the news to watch if I want to go down that road.

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