VP Selection Thread

[SoThankful]

Joseph Farah isn't the most reliable person to listen to for political foresight. Rubio is eligible if Obama is president. Obama being in the Oval Office makes this a non-issue. Obama's father wasn't even seeking citizenship like Rubio's parents were.

I was just using his words, but according to a recent poll something on the order of 40%, or roughly 140 million people, of this nation realize Obama is not an NBC and has created a Constitutional crisis. If even half of that is aware of Rubio's ineligibility, they aren't going to vote for him. Two wrongs don't make a right. Rubio seems like a decent guy, though him voting for NDAA, etc really takes from his "conservative" credentials, but he's not eligible. It would be a very bad move on Romney's part to do this is all I'm saying. That's if Romney even wins the nomination and it's not even close to being settled yet.

[Buzzardhut]

I was just using his words, but according to a recent poll something on the order of 40%, or roughly 140 million people, of this nation realize Obama is not an NBC and has created a Constitutional crisis. If even half of that is aware of Rubio's ineligibility, they aren't going to vote for him. Two wrongs don't make a right. Rubio seems like a decent guy, though him voting for NDAA, etc really takes from his "conservative" credentials, but he's not eligible. It would be a very bad move on Romney's part to do this is all I'm saying. That's if Romney even wins the nomination and it's not even close to being settled yet.

Anyone can get in nowadays; Obama, Arnold, illegals; etc...

[Kaleb]

if Obama can be president. Rubio can be VP. There is a lot of research out there on this. The democrats would have already sunk Rubio on this issue if they could.


Here is one article defending Rubio's status:

"Now, consider Marco Rubio. His parents were resident aliens when he was born in 1971, seeking and soon to receive their status as naturalized U.S. citizens. Under the Fourteenth Amendment, "all persons born...in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the states wherein they reside." This "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause shows why Rubio is -- and, very likely, why children of illegal aliens are not -- a "natural born citizen of the United States."

We should be very careful in discussions of the Constitution to avoid the impression that we are an anti-immigrant party. To say that Rubio, Jindal, and Haley are forever barred because of a strained interpretation of the Constitution's eligibility clause would condemn conservatism to minority status for the foreseeable future. Surely, that is not what we want."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/...#ixzz1uHw4zFM6

I have come to this conclusion as well. And it may seem confrontational and divisive here, but I don't mean it to be. It is just my feeling nonetheless. I want good conservative people of strong character and moral fabric guiding america just as all of you do I'm sure. Period. We've allowed mexicans to flow virtually unfettered into this country. No one and I mean NO ONE is going to do anything about it. However, if they will come here, put their mexican flag down, and please shut up about how great me-hico is, pick up an American flag and work to keep it free and prosperous. So be it. Perhaps they should inherit this land. If the people born here and prospered here are going to turn their backs on God's grace he so graciously shed on this nation, then By God almighty, let someone else be a steward of this great nation and do so with humility, courage, and steadfastness. If they want to come here and turn it into a marxist ghetto sewer hole, then let them fail and wallow in their own misguided ideology of failure, immorality and bitterness.

When I say this, I'm talking to the Bill Maher's who got rich here and prospered under this grace but bash america and it's Godly moral roots non-stop. And to the Michael Moores who seem pretty healthy feasting on the amber waves of grain but would wipe his rear with the constitution every chance he got. And to the numerous hollywood stars who long for Obama's socialist utopia not realizing their glamorous lifestyle is virtually impossible under such a system.

If the son of cuban refugees will help america preserve it's roots of freedom. so be it. Apparently there are not many sons of American Christians that are going to get very far. It's better than a Kenyan Islamo-Communist.

[HeIsEnough]

I was just using his words, but according to a recent poll something on the order of 40%, or roughly 140 million people, of this nation realize Obama is not an NBC and has created a Constitutional crisis.

I don't see a crisis. As much as I'd like to see Mr. Obama go down over issues like this, it just ain't gonna happen.

If even half of that is aware of Rubio's ineligibility, they aren't going to vote for him. Two wrongs don't make a right. Rubio seems like a decent guy, though him voting for NDAA, etc really takes from his "conservative" credentials, but he's not eligible. It would be a very bad move on Romney's part to do this is all I'm saying. That's if Romney even wins the nomination and it's not even close to being settled yet.

Five other Presidents had one or both parents born outside the US. Your precedence left the station a couple of hundred years ago...its settled.

[SoThankful]

I don't see a crisis. As much as I'd like to see Mr. Obama go down over issues like this, it just ain't gonna happen.



Five other Presidents had one or both parents born outside the US. Your precedence left the station a couple of hundred years ago...its settled.

Natural born citizenship status has nothing to do with where the parents were born, only that they be citizens at the time of the child's birth. The first 10 Presidents were "citizen at the time of the signing of the Constitution", ever single one since has been born on U.S. soil to citizen parents with the exception of the guy in the Oval Office. We're seeing first hand today why the framers specified an NBC. The man has zero allegiance to this nation, exactly what they were trying to aviod. But, as Buzzard said, it doesn't seem to matter any longer. Romney can do whatever he wants, but a whole lot of people are not going to vote for him if he blatantly disregards Constitutional eligibility like the DNC did.

[HeIsEnough]

We're seeing first hand today why the framers specified an NBC. The man has zero allegiance to this nation, exactly what they were trying to aviod.

Avoiding liberals would have been much more better. I don't see a naturalized parent as having any benefit to the argument, especially if they become naturalized automatically by marrying a US citizen.

I think this whole thing is farcical, its not going to persuade the vast majority of voters either way. Obama "proved" he was born in the US, people just don't take it any further than that, right or wrong. The Democrats have painted 'birthers' with sour grapes, and that ain't gonna change. People waste time over this stuff, it has gotten nowhere, it will get nowhere.

Yet, the Democrats are way more deft at politics, especially on stuff like this, and Republicans continue to strain gnats.

I already know some will blow their stack at what I'm saying, but history bears this out, and we win on technical points, while the country goes down in flames. I actually have little hope the Republicans can succeed in politics anymore, the country is growing more and more liberal.

[tbrian40]

I am praying for the best but I am with you Buzzardhut. The US and the world has become liberalized. There's no turning back now. The Word states that there will be a great falling away before His glorious return. What about Chris Christie or Mrs. Ayotte as VP? Just thinking...