Why you must vote and what you can expect

[Hootmon]

Constitution, National Defense, Support of Israel, SC appointees, Fiscal Responsibility. Just vote for the better candidate in these areas and leave the final judgment of these mens' hearts to God.

+1

Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.

The lesser of two evils is less evil.

You are going to get stuck with one of them. Make your choice, with the understanding that not choosing tends to reward the incumbent.

[SaintTexas]

OWL, thank you for your response. I will continue to seek the Lord and pray this through. Thank you for the other responses of those who are trying to help those of us who find ourselves in this quandry and to those who have already decided that they cannot vote and for the reasons you have stated. The Lord always honors those who honor Him. Did doing this start looking like something other than the cross when it comes to the world's reception of those who love Jesus?

I don't plan to vote a third party candidate as I know that strategically that would ensure Obama's reection, but I will say that loving Jesus and refusing to vote between these two men because you feel it's participating in wrong---who are any of us to condemn that person for wanting to honor the Lord and feeling this may be a sin for them? The Holy Spirit said through Paul in Romans 14 that we are not to judge the Lord's servants for the intent of their hearts and that only He can do that and will at the Bema Seat. I cannot help but believe that voting has a lot less to do with being salt and light than we may think, and all we need to do is look in those nations where it's illegal to be a believer, own a Bible, freely worship and we are on the doorstep of that being a reality across the globe--praise the Lord He will bring us home before then. We are not light and salt because we are American, have our Constitution and vote, but because we belong to Jesus and are telling people about Him and what He did for our sinfulness. Desiring to honor the Lord, whether you decide to vote or not vote, is what is important to the Lord and whether you are actually doing whatever you do to serve and please the Lord is something that only He says He can judge.

I pray this forum is a place where spiritual gifts are able to be exercised to the extent that they can be on a computer, where we can intercede for one another in prayer, encourage one another in the Word, to grow in our knowlege of Jesus as our Lord and Saviour, and where unity by the Holy Spirit is possible. What I pray most is that we would love one another in our thoughts towards one another and what we say to and about one another. I pray we can all make our points without damaging another person in the process. Isn't that part of what Paul talks about in Galatians 5 (v15)?

Life is so difficult, and the Lord is our hope and I am thankful daily that I know this and live by it. Maranatha, Lord Jesus.

[iSong6:3]

I wonder if you venture out to the left side's forums......do they say "if you don't vote for Odumbo, it will be a sure victory for Romney"?

That doesn't make sense. Obama was voted in once and an incumbent is harder to rout out which gives Obama the upper hand. It's an uphill battle to unseat an incumbent.

[BarbT]

I'm somewhat at a loss that many here at this forum seem fully prepared to sit out this election

Bad influences would be my guess. It happens every election season.

Frequently the I-won't-vote-for-the-lesser-of-two-evils folks have read a commentary or heard a sermon that convinced them that God doesn't want His people involved in politics unless a candidate is "pure". They end up basing their decisions on emotion rather than pragmatic thinking. Ironically if any of us on this board were running for office we wouldn't pass muster either. No one would be holy enough or believed/said/did the right things during his lifetime.

We Christians are free to study the candidates and vote accordingly. We are also free to ignore the political process altogether. But I wish the non-voters would at least admit they simply don't care if a confirmed Marxist destroys America and stop using God as an excuse.

[savedatcamp]

If Romney wins the Primary, him being a Mormon wouldn't affect whether I'd vote for him or not. Although, I wish our federal gov't was filled with born again believers, I vote for people who will adhere to the Constitution. I could not and would not vote ever for a Muslim though.

I will hold my nose and vote for Romney, although his first alligence will not be to our Constitution.....
But then neither is Obama's.
Romney will do less harm that's all....

[Dan the Elder]

Has it occurred to anyone else how much of an "impact" the RAPTURE would have on this election??

Supposing, "just supposing", that the Rapture occurred shortly before the election, what do you think
the results would be??

If there was nothing holding back the anarchists, marxists, muslims, warring nations, what do you think would be the results of not only the election, but the world in general?

It has crossed my mind, and I'm on my knees praying for my lost loved ones. Just sayin!!

God Bless, Dan

[SummerSailing81]

Has it occurred to anyone else how much of an "impact" the RAPTURE would have on this election??

Supposing, "just supposing", that the Rapture occurred shortly before the election, what do you think
the results would be??

If there was nothing holding back the anarchists, marxists, muslims, warring nations, what do you think would be the results of not only the election, but the world in general?

It has crossed my mind, and I'm on my knees praying for my lost loved ones. Just sayin!!

God Bless, Dan

Obama would be assured a second term because he'd declare martial law and those left behind would NEVER be able to get him out of office, not that most of them probably would want to anyway. The entire world would be in total chaos and would be looking for someone to "save" them, i.e. the AC.

[OnceWasLost]

I will state again we are not electing a theologian, I think of it like this:

If obama came to me and I was an investor would I put my money with him? OK stop laughing we all know the answer.

If I wanted to invest in something Romney was selling I would be pretty sure he would be successful. I anticipate he will do the right things on social issues, and I know he has a better head for business than barry does.

Now with that, I realize that if the nation suffers we all suffer. Our standard of living is driven down and even people are less humane to one another. I have never looked to the POTUS for my marching orders in matters of faith. I want him to get out of my life, policy wise, and do the same for others. I want him to support Israel and not look weak to the rest of the world. I want him to stop saddling my children with debt.

If the POTUS will leave as small of a footprint as possible we will be better able to see to the matters of faith, for which he is neither qualified or Constitutionally mandated to do.

[jeri559]

OWL I agree with you! Folks this election is about the fight for the heart and soul of America. It may be our last chance to save the America we all grew up in and love. Voter apathy will be the downfall of this great country if everyone took the position not to vote because the candidate isn't a Born Again Christian. We are not electing a pastor or theologian as OWL said. Not voting is exactly what the Left Wing Radicals, Communits/Marxists want and will ensure Obama's re-election and further their agenda to the likes we have not yet seen. We may not like the GOP choice but it's far better than the man in the WH. I am not a Romney supporter yet I am going to vote for him because it may be the last opportunity we have to save this great nation. God will determine the outcome but at least I am going to do my patriotic duty and try to make a difference. Doing nothing is sticking our heads in the sand. If you don't vote, you have no voice.

[Mommytoa3rdgradeboy]

If it's all the same to you, I'd prefer my Christian spiritual leaders as far away from this corrupt worlds politics as possible in so much that they do not neglect their liberty and personal responsibility to vote.

There's a guy that's going to be coming on the scene soon who will be a very great government and spiritual leader, but you'll want nothing to do with him!



Anyone that comes in like manner of this fellow is a type of him and certainly one to be avoided. I don't need the government to help me spiritually.

Mitt Romney has given no indication he has any intention of doing anything like that, or else you would think he would have done so already when no body was paying any particular attention to him in his previous held offices. He hasn't.

By contrast, Obama pushes all kinds of strange spiritual ideals from his pulpit as president.

Wonderfully stated, and I 100% agree!

[Mom2ten]

i'm continually baffled by christians who insist that only a believer such as themselves is worthy of their vote.

President george w. Bush was never a muslim nor was he a mormon. He has a wonderful testimony of how christ changed his life and it was posted on rr many times. But even that wasn't good enough as w's christian credentials were questioned repeatedly here because certain things he said or did weren't "holy" enough.

constitution, national defense, support of israel, sc appointees, fiscal responsibility. Just vote for the better candidate in these areas and leave the final judgment of these mens' hearts to god.

like!!!! Like!!!!

[TonyTheTiger]

I wonder if you venture out to the left side's forums......do they say "if you don't vote for Odumbo, it will be a sure victory for Romney"?

If that is the case, then am I voting for both by voting for neither?

[tbrian40]

All I know is Emperor Obamus has got to go! Vote for Romney and not for a third candidate. Do I agree with Romney on everything (mormonism)? No. At least he doesn't want to be Herod or Nero or Caesar or, well, you get the idea. I just looked at a Newsmax poll. Romney has 66% of the vote compared to Obamus' 33%. One thing is for certain. God willing, the Tea Party (barring the rapture) is going to shake this guberment down until there is real change. We are united and determined to not give these politicians a free ride anymore. Always think on the true and noble side of things...didn't Paul tell us this? Keeping my head up! Amen.

[EarsToHear]

I just caught up with the last three pages and thought the same thing that someone else wrote--this is a no-brainer.

If you don't want Obama in office for another 4 years, don't be an ostrich. Take the action that will stop him from doing further damage: Vote for his opponent, Romney.

[Little Bug]

I just caught up with the last three pages and thought the same thing that someone else wrote--this is a no-brainer.

If you don't want Obama in office for another 4 years, don't be an ostrich. Take the action that will stop him from doing further damage: Vote for his opponent, Romney.

+1 Amen!

[iSong6:3]

I just caught up with the last three pages and thought the same thing that someone else wrote--this is a no-brainer.

If you don't want Obama in office for another 4 years, don't be an ostrich. Take the action that will stop him from doing further damage: Vote for his opponent, Romney.

It's simple to me too, don't see the need for agonizing about it.

We're given godly principles in the Bible - to whom much is given much is required, render unto even a wicked Caesar his due (no room to drop out and tune out), we even have discernment. It's not too hard to discern between perfection and wickedness, even the world can do that for the most part, we're given the ability to judge/discern between varying shades of gray, which is much of this fallen world we live in.

To my thinking there is no excuse for a believer not to discern the differences between Obama and just about anyone else and to act on that, as we've been given the riches of the right/responsibility to vote.

It's a no-brainer as you say.

[Mom2ten]

It's simple to me too, don't see the need for agonizing about it.

We're given godly principles in the Bible - to whom much is given much is required, render unto even a wicked Caesar his due (no room to drop out and tune out), we even have discernment. It's not too hard to discern between perfection and wickedness, even the world can do that for the most part, we're given the ability to judge/discern between varying shades of gray, which is much of this fallen world we live in.

To my thinking there is no excuse for a believer not to discern the differences between Obama and just about anyone else and to act on that, as we've been given the riches of the right/responsibility to vote.

It's a no-brainer as you say.

[Steve53]

If that is the case, then am I voting for both by voting for neither?

No. You're playing victim.

[HikerLady]

To my thinking there is no excuse for a believer not to discern the differences between Obama and just about anyone else and to act on that, as we've been given the riches of the right/responsibility to vote.

It's a no-brainer as you say.

Amen to that! I think what some people are missing is the fact that low voter turnouts ALWAYS heavily favor an incumbent. And THAT is why we're saying that if you do not vote, it is just as if you approve of Obama. We are not electing a pastor. For me it boils down to one of 2 choices: allow Obama another four years and, since he won't have to worry about re-election in 2016, watch him make this country into a third world nation, OR vote for Romney, who at least knows how to run a business and is not bent on destroying our country.

[antitox]

I just caught up with the last three pages and thought the same thing that someone else wrote--this is a no-brainer.

If you don't want Obama in office for another 4 years, don't be an ostrich. Take the action that will stop him from doing further damage: Vote for his opponent, Romney.

It's the only way.