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    Quote Originally Posted by augiek View Post
    Where does it say Noah warned people? I see he obeyed GOD and was righteous in his generations but the warning people i missed.
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    Where in Genesis does it say God told him to warn the people? I read God decided to destroy the earth. Noah and family were righteous in God's view. so He saved them, and only them.

    Noah never warned the other people. The ark was only destined for him and his family:


    Hebrews 11:7
    By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

    Genesis 6:17
    And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, in which is the breath of life, from under heaven; and everything that is in the earth shall die.

    Genesis 6:18
    But with you will I establish my covenant; and you shall come into the ark, you, and your sons, and your wife, and your sons' wives with you.

    Genesis 7:1
    And the LORD said unto Noah, Come you and all your house into the ark; for you have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooky View Post
    That would make the harpazo nearer than we think.
    It's so near you can almost stick out your tongue and touch it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovicula View Post
    Noah never warned the other people.
    That assertion is false. From Hebrews 11:7 (a verse that you cited by the way) -
    By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

    Noah’s blameless life is made manifest as he warns his contemporaries of the coming wrath of God. The Apostle Peter tells us that Noah was a “herald of righteousness” (2 Peter 2:5), and the author of Hebrews says that he “condemned the world” (Hebrews 11:7). Despite the hardhearted response of his generation, Noah continued to plead and warn people of their impending doom. http://www.gotquestions.org/life-Noah.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve53 View Post
    That assertion is false. From Hebrews 11:7 (a verse that you cited by the way) -
    By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
    Completely

    Just does not make sense that he would build an ark for over 100 years and not be a testimony to the world. More than enough time for most everybody to hear of the crazy Noah guy and his "coming flood/judgment" story. Scripture confirms what already makes perfect sense.
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    Building an Ark would be quite a tourist attraction; especially where no body of water was nearby, Noah probably preached to an audience of hecklers, onlookers, and bored spectators every day about why he was working on his project.



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    Did not Methuselah die just before the ark was finished? Just curious

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    I've heard that Liberty University's main building is built to the exact dimensions of the ark. That's pretty massive. I would think it would have been noticeable. Plus, yes, according to Dr. Henry Morris, the name "Methuselah" may mean, “When he dies, judgment.” Others say: “When he is dead it shall be sent” (“it” refers to the deluge). Methuselah lived for 969 years, and died the year of the flood (supposedly a week before). His name alone would have declared something's up.

    (Genesis 5:21-27)

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    Quote Originally Posted by acceptedinthebeloved View Post
    I've heard that Liberty University's main building is built to the exact dimensions of the ark. That's pretty massive. I would think it would have been noticeable. Plus, yes, according to Dr. Henry Morris, the name "Methuselah" may mean, “When he dies, judgment.” Others say: “When he is dead it shall be sent” (“it” refers to the deluge). Methuselah lived for 969 years, and died the year of the flood (supposedly a week before). His name alone would have declared something's up.

    (Genesis 5:21-27)
    Wow, Thank you, I didnt know that his name meant that! It's like today. People laugh and scoff and ridicule Gods Word. Christians are persecuted, killed, run out of there homes and churchs around the world. IMO God will not put up with it much longer, take us out of the way and then .......judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty066 View Post
    Wow, Thank you, I didnt know that his name meant that! It's like today. People laugh and scoff and ridicule Gods Word. Christians are persecuted, killed, run out of there homes and churchs around the world. IMO God will not put up with it much longer, take us out of the way and then .......judgement.
    This video is interesting regarding "10 Names in Genesis 5" by Chuck Missler (only about 2 mins long):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUs8f-lphec

    There's a similar article somewhere about the names of the tribes (of the 144,000, in Rev 7) and their unique order listed there, too, which similarly means something when strung together as a sentence... indicating their purpose during the future tribulation period. It's interesting.


    ETA: And here's what Jude 1:14-15 says about Enoch (Methuselah's father):

    14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

    15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.


    It seems to me that if he "prophesied" this, he may have also had other sermons as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty066 View Post
    Did not Methuselah die just before the ark was finished? Just curious
    yes Methuselah - "his death shall bring" Extra-biblical tradition maintains that he died on the 11th of Cheshvan of the year 1656 (Anno Mundi, after Creation), at the age of 969, seven days before the beginning of the Great Flood. Genesis 7:4, God delayed the Flood specifically because of the seven days of mourning in honor of the righteous Methuselah. Methuselah was the son of Enoch and the grandfather of Noah.



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    Name Born Died Name Means

    Adam 1 930 Man

    Seth 130 1042 Appointed

    Enosh 235 1140 Mortal (Lived 905 years. Only 821 when Noah was born)

    Kenan 325 1235 Sorrow

    Mahalel 395 1290 The Blessed God

    Jared 460 1422 Shall come down

    Enoch 622 987 Teaching (By tradition Adam, Seth and Enoch named the stars, putting the gospel story in the 12 constellations of the Mazzaroth … later perverted in the signs of the Zodiac)

    Methusaleh 687 1656 His death shall bring (The flood came the year He died)

    Lamech 874 1651 Despairing (56 years old when Adam died)

    Noah 1056 2006 Rest (Still around when Abraham was born)


    These 10 names contain the Gospel message.

    “Man is appointed mortal sorrow. But the blessed God shall come down teaching that His death shall bring the despairing rest.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovicula View Post
    Name Born Died Name Means

    Adam 1 930 Man

    Seth 130 1042 Appointed

    Enosh 235 1140 Mortal (Lived 905 years. Only 821 when Noah was born)

    Kenan 325 1235 Sorrow

    Mahalel 395 1290 The Blessed God

    Jared 460 1422 Shall come down

    Enoch 622 987 Teaching (By tradition Adam, Seth and Enoch named the stars, putting the gospel story in the 12 constellations of the Mazzaroth … later perverted in the signs of the Zodiac)

    Methusaleh 687 1656 His death shall bring (The flood came the year He died)

    Lamech 874 1651 Despairing (56 years old when Adam died)

    Noah 1056 2006 Rest (Still around when Abraham was born)


    These 10 names contain the Gospel message.

    “Man is appointed mortal sorrow. But the blessed God shall come down teaching that His death shall bring the despairing rest.”


    http://gracethrufaith.com/ikvot-hama...am-to-abraham/
    I wonder if there are any more messages via biblical names in Jesus' genealogy. "It is done." All is complete now in terms of salvation, has been for 2000 years. Thanks for the website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waiting1 View Post
    because water had NEVER fallen from the sky before. They probably all thought: "water from the sky, who has ever heard of such a ridiculous thing, ha, ha!" Before the flood all the plants on Earth were watered from the ground itself. And I believe the Moon was the item which squeezed the Earth to allow the water to inside the Earth to come up and water everything. So to hear someone say water from the sky was unbelieveable to many back then I am sure.
    I agree with what you've said (the people on the earth at that time must have thought Noah was crazy), but I'm not sure about the moon "squeezing" the earth. I believe all the water in the oceans was actually locked in the earth's crust under great pressure and this water would come up through small openings (cracks and such) as a mist and water the earth. This actually happens today around areas with volcanoes. When the fountains of the great deep broke open, I believe that all this high-pressure water exploded out through great fissures in the earth's crust. It probably shot up into the sky and came back down as rain and flooded the whole earth. Eventually this water found its way into low places which are now our oceans. As the water gathered, the earth's crust was crushed until it was very thin which resulted in the continents being lifted up (kinda like what happens when you squeeze the middle of toothpaste tube).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovicula View Post
    Noah never warned the other people. The ark was only destined for him and his family:


    Hebrews 11:7
    By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

    Genesis 6:17
    And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, in which is the breath of life, from under heaven; and everything that is in the earth shall die.

    Genesis 6:18
    But with you will I establish my covenant; and you shall come into the ark, you, and your sons, and your wife, and your sons' wives with you.

    Genesis 7:1
    And the LORD said unto Noah, Come you and all your house into the ark; for you have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
    i'm with ovicula on this one. especially since noah was perfect in his generations, ie bloodline. despite all the obvious q&a about the big boat he stood firm with his family and did as he was told. he knew what was coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augiek View Post
    i'm with ovicula on this one. especially since noah was perfect in his generations, ie bloodline. despite all the obvious q&a about the big boat he stood firm with his family and did as he was told. he knew what was coming.
    Yes, Noah did as he was instructed. He trusted God and he warned people. It was no secret what he was doing and why. To suppose even for an instant that Noah did not preach of the impending judgment is to ignore the Biblical record to the contrary and that's why any assertion claiming otherwise is false.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve53 View Post
    That assertion is false. From Hebrews 11:7 (a verse that you cited by the way) -
    By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
    Quote Originally Posted by RandallB View Post
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    Just does not make sense that he would build an ark for over 100 years and not be a testimony to the world. More than enough time for most everybody to hear of the crazy Noah guy and his "coming flood/judgment" story. Scripture confirms what already makes perfect sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    Building an Ark would be quite a tourist attraction; especially where no body of water was nearby, Noah probably preached to an audience of hecklers, onlookers, and bored spectators every day about why he was working on his project.

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    It would be pretty selfish I would think to make such an enormous boat to survive the flood but not invite or warn anyone. And I don't think God would not want to give people a chance by using Noah to warn everyone. That's just my opinion on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    yes Methuselah - "his death shall bring" Extra-biblical tradition maintains that he died on the 11th of Cheshvan of the year 1656 (Anno Mundi, after Creation), at the age of 969, seven days before the beginning of the Great Flood. Genesis 7:4, God delayed the Flood specifically because of the seven days of mourning in honor of the righteous Methuselah. Methuselah was the son of Enoch and the grandfather of Noah.
    Thanks Buz. This kind of info fascinates me.

    Also entering the discussion about weather Noah warnded people. Does not God always warn people of impending judgement? I see it throughout scripture. He warned, Israel, by way of the prophets. Ninevah, by way of Jonah. etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty066 View Post
    Thanks Buz. This kind of info fascinates me.

    Also entering the discussion about weather Noah warnded people. Does not God always warn people of impending judgement? I see it throughout scripture. He warned, Israel, by way of the prophets. Ninevah, by way of Jonah. etc..
    Yes, God always gives grace and warnings before judgments, and even second and third chances, (before death)



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    so if God says this:
    6:5 But the Lord saw 18 that the wickedness of humankind had become great on the earth. Every inclination 19 of the thoughts 20 of their minds 21 was only evil 22 all the time. 23 6:6 The Lord regretted 24 that he had made humankind on the earth, and he was highly offended. 25 6:7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe humankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth – everything from humankind to animals, 26 including creatures that move on the ground and birds of the air, for I regret that I have made them.”
    and tells Noah this:
    6:13 So God said 43 to Noah, “I have decided that all living creatures must die, 44 for the earth is filled with violence because of them. Now I am about to destroy 45 them and the earth. 6:14 Make 46 for yourself an ark of cypress 47 wood
    so Noah does this:
    Hebrews 11:7
    By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
    What's Noah preaching and why? the ark is for him and his family and the animals, no others...

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    Quote Originally Posted by augiek View Post
    so if God says this:
    6:5 But the Lord saw 18 that the wickedness of humankind had become great on the earth. Every inclination 19 of the thoughts 20 of their minds 21 was only evil 22 all the time. 23 6:6 The Lord regretted 24 that he had made humankind on the earth, and he was highly offended. 25 6:7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe humankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth – everything from humankind to animals, 26 including creatures that move on the ground and birds of the air, for I regret that I have made them.”
    and tells Noah this:
    6:13 So God said 43 to Noah, “I have decided that all living creatures must die, 44 for the earth is filled with violence because of them. Now I am about to destroy 45 them and the earth. 6:14 Make 46 for yourself an ark of cypress 47 wood
    so Noah does this:
    Hebrews 11:7
    By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
    What's Noah preaching and why? the ark is for him and his family and the animals, no others...
    Isn't it God's nature to warn?

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