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    Default Dawkins approves the placement of Bibles in UK classrooms

    I heard that this once very odious little man has in fact started to relent of his atheism in recent years, perhaps he needs to re-read his KJV a few times as well.

    Here is the link to the story http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18224114

    Does this not seem a strange thing for a man of his stance and history to be doing/agreeing with?

    Perhaps the Holy Spirit is working in there, maybe this man will become one of us and you know what they say there's no one better to preach the word of God like an 'ex' something or someone or other.

    Here's hoping!

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    Sounds to me like he's so sure the "Bible is not a moral book" that schoolchildren reading it will see that too and agree with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iSong6:3 View Post
    Sounds to me like he's so sure the "Bible is not a moral book" that schoolchildren reading it will see that too and agree with him.
    That's exactly what he's saying. He's echoing Martin Gardiner, who said "the surest way to become an atheist is to read the Bible". I suspect that's more true of adults than children, though- children are much more likely to believe what they're told to believe than adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
    That's exactly what he's saying. He's echoing Martin Gardiner, who said "the surest way to become an atheist is to read the Bible". I suspect that's more true of adults than children, though- children are much more likely to believe what they're told to believe than adults.

    cheers from sunny Vienna, zilch
    Dawkins is showing his ignorance again, the Bible was never meant to be just a "moral book". It is God's supernatural revelation to man.

    And I'm not clear on what you're saying here, zilch. Do you think Christianity is a bunch of people believing what they're "told" to believe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
    That's exactly what he's saying. He's echoing Martin Gardiner, who said "the surest way to become an atheist is to read the Bible".


    Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
    I suspect that's more true of adults than children, though- children are much more likely to believe what they're told to believe than adults.
    Adults are much more likely to really enjoy their sin as well, so its not surprising an adult sex addict continues to rebuff the "moral" part of the so-called "immoral" book.

    Sounds like Dawkins is trapped by his own 'bright' and superior brain. Why sure, just let people read for themselves how God shows them that He sees them for what they are, and offers them a way of escape. Many fools before this man were smarter than this man, he 'overthunk' it and doesn't even realize it. I say let his intelligence just play out, he'll be gone soon enough and another will take his place wearing out his hammer against the anvil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
    That's exactly what he's saying. He's echoing Martin Gardiner, who said "the surest way to become an atheist is to read the Bible". I suspect that's more true of adults than children, though- children are much more likely to believe what they're told to believe than adults.

    cheers from sunny Vienna, zilch
    Matthew 19:14 Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

    But of course, as one grows older, and tempted away from the faith, they will welcome in twisted interpretations of God's true intentions, but as they reject God, scripture actually becomes a sand trap for them, for woe unto those who give so many face palms when judged by Jesus and understanding what God's truth is all about, but then it will be too late for them, the word of God never returns void and I pray those who reject God, and Jesus' salvation, will return to truth before it's too late.

    Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

    Romans 1:19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.

    Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

    Romans 1:21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

    Romans 1:22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,

    Romans 1:23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.



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    Quote Originally Posted by iSong6:3 View Post
    Dawkins is showing his ignorance again, the Bible was never meant to be just a "moral book". It is God's supernatural revelation to man.

    And I'm not clear on what you're saying here, zilch. Do you think Christianity is a bunch of people believing what they're "told" to believe?
    I'm not clear on what you're saying either, zilch. And why did you use the Yeah! smilie in the title of your reply to iSong? Unless I'm misreading you, at the very least it implies you're celebrating what you believe Dawkins is saying in connection with the Martin Gardiner quote.

    Looking over your few previous posts, I realize we don't know much about you.

    Who is Jesus to you? How did you come to know Him?
    Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith... (Hebrews 12:2)

    Being confident of this very thing, that He which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ...(Philippians 1:6)


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    Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
    I suspect that's more true of adults than children, though- children are much more likely to believe what they're told to believe than adults.
    Which is why the atheists like dawkins peddle the evolution lie to children in grade school, so by the time they reach his class they are mind numbed beyond any ability to question what they have been spoon fed since childhood.
    There is One King, and He is not this guy.

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    He thinks it has no power but The Word of God has been proven over and over again to be powerful and true as God said it will never return void or pass away. Get bibles in those schools! They need it in the UK! (I wonder how much Dawkins' approval will influence the possibility of it happening). Like others said, he thinks he's being sly but it's impossible to outsmart and All-Knowing God and His own WORD.

    I've always thought it would be amazing if one of the most outspoken atheists today got genuinely saved. It's not to rub it in atheists' faces but to the glory of God and the salvation of another soul and it's also something the Holy Spirit could use to open eyes. I really imagine some will be saved during the tribulation (who will be able to stay an atheist during that time?) I really want to start praying for their salvation along with all atheists. I'm always amazed at the power of intercessory prayer to God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnceWasLost View Post
    Which is why the atheists like dawkins peddle the evolution lie to children in grade school, so by the time they reach his class they are mind numbed beyond any ability to question what they have been spoon fed since childhood.
    Luke 17:1 And Jesus said to His disciples, “It is impossible that no offenses should come, but woe to him through whom they do come!

    Luke 17:2 It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

    Agree in prayer that Dawkins turns from working for satan and confesses to Jesus in repentance.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    Luke 17:1 And Jesus said to His disciples, “It is impossible that no offenses should come, but woe to him through whom they do come!

    Luke 17:2 It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

    Agree in prayer that Dawkins turns from working for satan and confesses to Jesus in repentance.
    There is One King, and He is not this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    Luke 17:1 And Jesus said to His disciples, “It is impossible that no offenses should come, but woe to him through whom they do come!

    Luke 17:2 It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

    Agree in prayer that Dawkins turns from working for satan and confesses to Jesus in repentance.
    You hit the nail on the head.

    for the children decieved by evolution, for their revelation of the Lord's truth & for them to hear the gospel message, amen.

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    Hehehe, Dawkins doesn't realize that this Book is supernatural:

    "For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Heb. 4:12)

    I wish they would take his advice here in the US and put the Bible back into the public schools!

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    Isaiah 55:11
    New King James Version (NKJV)

    11 So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth;
    It shall not return to Me void,
    But it shall accomplish what I please,
    And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.

    Once the children are exposed to the WORD,
    God's Spirit will take it from there.

    PRAY PRAY PRAY
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    Quote Originally Posted by gracealone11 View Post

    I really want to start praying for their salvation along with all atheists. I'm always amazed at the power of intercessory prayer to God.
    We all need to pray more for the unsaved. Thanks for reminding me/us.

    As for Mr. Dawkins, he is in his mid 70's, he won't be an atheist much longer.

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    Default Richard Dawkins Supports Bibles in Schools

    Atheist Richard Dawkins Supports Bibles in Schools [Excerpts]


    World-renowned atheist Richard Dawkins says he supports the mission of England's Department for Education to make sure every public school in the nation has a copy of the 1611 translation of the King James Bible." A native speaker of English who has never read a word of the King James Bible is verging on the barbarian," said Dawkins in a column he wrote for The Guardian.

    The author and evolutionary biologist even went as far as to say he would have donated to the cause had he been given the opportunity to do so.

    But Dawkins is backing the distribution plan, albeit with an "ulterior motive."

    "I have an ulterior motive for wishing to contribute to Gove's scheme," he wrote. "People who do not know the Bible well have been gulled into thinking it is a good guide to morality ... I have even heard the cynically misanthropic opinion that, without the Bible as a moral compass, people would have no restraint against murder, theft and mayhem. The surest way to disabuse yourself of this pernicious falsehood is to read the Bible itself."

    He shared a study conducted by The Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science in which only 35 percent of self-identified British Christians accurately identified Matthew as the first book of the New Testament. Among those surveyed, 39 percent said they "don't know" which book comes first.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/at...supports-bible... [2]

    (TBC: Not knowing the power of Scripture, Dawkins may be surprised at the result if the recipients read the book.)

    Hebrews 4:12
    "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart"


    http://www.thebereancall.org/content...bibles-schools


    Is he revising his opinion about the Gospel and the Bibel?

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    God has a way of reaching the "Hard Core" - the ones we NEVER think will convert.

    I also thought of Hebrews 4:12

    " I have had an increasing burden to engage in some down and dirty, street evangelism." March 6, 2010

    Isaiah 6:8 I heard the voice of the Lord, saying: “ Whom shall I send, And who will go for Us?”

    Then I said, “Here am I! Send me.”

    Matthew 22:9 NIV
    'So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’


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    I have thought for a while that if Richard Dawkins became a Christian it would pull the rug from many atheist's feet. Ok it seems quite unlikely but then again is it any more difficult for God to save Richard Dawkins then any other sinner?

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    I'm sure they said the same about Saul from Tarsus!

    " I have had an increasing burden to engage in some down and dirty, street evangelism." March 6, 2010

    Isaiah 6:8 I heard the voice of the Lord, saying: “ Whom shall I send, And who will go for Us?”

    Then I said, “Here am I! Send me.”

    Matthew 22:9 NIV
    'So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’


    I'm praying for you daily!
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