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Autism
I'm an undiagnosed Aspie (I have so many autisic signs yet I've never been diagnosed).
I was wondering. I know He's no respector of persons. What do you think Jesus thinks about autism and those of His children who have it?
Forgive me if I worded that badly. I'm not the best at wording things.
Moist Owlet
The people Ive known who have various amounts of autism are just skilled in a different way. Artists and technicians, for instance.
The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.
(Psa 19:1b-2)
letting it go
Well, in the world's mind something like autism is seen a huge hindrance to being successful or accomplishing a healthy, peaceful life.Originally Posted by Snoopynstorm
God sees that as a way for Him to confound the world, when His child with autism relies on Him daily.
The Lord DOES NOT see things the way we do; or rather, the way our sin nature does.
God loves ALL of His creation the SAME. Although He does have a certain special love for His Church, the members of His own body. He sees no difference in the spirits of believers. He shows no partiality. It's hard to fathom, but He is actually *incapable* of showing partiality in this way. Even though on the outside things seem to be that way.
God sees people with disabilities very useful for His mission on earth. I would say the Lord probably has excitement for the age to come when they can shed not only their sin nature, but also their physical/mental disability.
He already sees it, but loves to make His creation joyful.
Job 34:19 says God
"...shows no partiality to princes and does not favor the rich over the poor, for they are all the work of his hands" [Rich, poor, disabled, healthy, sick, etc...]
It was never God's intention (although He foreknew) for people to get so sick and be born with abnormalities, etc...it came because of the fall, man's decision.
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked.
For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor;
no good thing does He withhold from those whose walk is blameless.
Psalm 84:10-11
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Welcome to the board. As someone with a number of handicaps myself, I can tell you that God can use anyone. The way I see it, we're not any less of more of something than the "normal" people, we are individually created in a unique way. In other words, God knew how to build us best for His glory.
Since I've come to see that my inability to read nonverbal language, etc. easily is likely not just my poor vision and/or hearing, but may be a very mild Asperger's (undiagnosed, right on the cusp) it's actually helped me to appreciate how God built me more and to see just how amazingly He can use anything in our lives. And, the fact that God doesn't need us to be the best missionary or preacher or anything - he loves us just the way we are.
The world just can't do that very easily; they always seem to want more, and often find it very hard to accept someone who can't meet their own expectations of things. But God doesn't look at thigns like that. God sees a wondrous creationa nd says, "You're fearfully and wonderfully made" no matter how different fromt he world we are.
John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
Come, Lord Jesus!
I would think that He would feel no differently about those with Autism than He does with any of the rest of us. Some of us have more noticeable disabilities than others, but we are all "disabled" by our sinful nature. He still loves & cares for each of us.
It's just this old world that chooses to put "value" on things/people that appear to be "perfect", and devalue those who seem to be "deficient" in some way.
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Snoopy,
I am a retired special ed teacher and taught kids with autism for several years and I raised a son with Asperger's Syndrom, which is a form of high functioning autism. I found that people with autism are God's special children. I don't know your age, but if you think you have autism, check out an Autism organization in your area. It is something you will never be cured of, but with help you can be taught to manage it so that it does not interfer with your life. as far as what Jesus thinks about you... well, he created you and knew you would be very special. He loves you the same as anyone else.
Grandma
Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.
Pray for the recipients!
1. I would work on getting a formal diagnosis. You can get a lot of help with a formal diagnosis.
I think we tend to view life as "it". All of everything we experience, is in our lifetime. So, being disabled for an ENTIRE lifetime can just seem like the most awful thing, ever.
But it isn't.
This "life" of ours is just a hiccup in the big scheme of things, and I believe those of us with disabilities are just equipped, to serve God, in different ways. My husband does a lot of witnessing on paratransit, something he can ONLY do BECAUSE he is very disabled.
My own problems taught me to lean on God through everything; some horrible times. Because of that I am pretty fearless when it comes to serving Him, more so than a "usual" person.
Romans 8:28
" I have had an increasing burden to engage in some down and dirty, street evangelism." March 6, 2010
Isaiah 6:8 I heard the voice of the Lord, saying: Whom shall I send, And who will go for Us?
Then I said, Here am I! Send me.
Matthew 22:9 NIV
'So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.
I'm praying for you daily!
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Homesick...
God loves us no matter our problems. I have Attention Deficit Disorder, and I've struggled with depression in the past. I've also been told I have some Asperger's symptoms, but not formally diagnosed as such. It's hard living with such disabilities... because I look normal. And sometimes I'm wary of mentioning it online because I do sound like a list of the conditions that some people fake for sympathy/to avoid trouble.
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John 1:29 Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world
Revelation22:17 Both the Spirit and the bride say, "Come!"
Happy I'm His
I'm an autistic person who was diagnosed with Aspergers about 8 years ago, and I have been saved for little over a year. I also have times when I have trouble expressing myself and admit to not being well versed in scripture. If medical science had known as much as we do now, I would have been diagnosed as a child. When I was diagnosed and the people I have met along the way because of it I believe was apart of God's plan. As others have said, Jesus loves us all the same. I have met many on and off the autism spectrum. Some adore Him, while others have rejected Him. He is as interested in what we see in Him as what He sees in us. I see my autism as a blessing and not a burden. I think it allows me to spend more one on one time with Him in a childlike faith. I also don't get obsessed with the particulars of the social world.
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My son has autism.Although he is very disabled with other illnesses besides autism.God loves you.Their is a reason for your disability.God has a purpose for everything in our lives.I do not know what it is but HE does.Stay faithful to God and waiting you in Heaven is a beautiful crown.
Imperfect but forgiven
Snoopynstorm, Jesus thinks enough of you that he allowed Himself to be crucified... for you. He is the umblemished Lamb sacrificed for the atonement of your sins, once and for all. You were worth it to Him. He loves you. He is love. He is the Word. He is God.
Tall Timbers
Keep Looking Up!
John Robinson books - Look Me in the Eye and Be Different are superb books on Aspbergers.
Some pages are like reading an auto biography.
As for being an aspie, the best image is the one of the Body that Paul makes.
So many intricate - different parts, all functioning together.
There is a place for all who Believe.
Some parts while being more cherished, are often hidden, while other parts perform their critical work with no fanfare at all.
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One Nation, under GOD, with liberty for All
and justice for those who threaten Liberty
John 1:1-3 NKJV --- Luke 22:42 NKJV --Romans 3:23 NKJV, Rom 5:8 NKJV, Rom 8:28 NKJV, Rom 8:31 NKJV, Rom8:38-39 NKJV, ---Titus 1:2 NKJV - Heb 6:18 NKJV --- John 14:6 NKJV --- 1 John 5:13 NKJV --- Acts 16:29-31 NKJV ... John 6:28-29 NKJV... 1John 2:22 NKJV... Heb 10:11-13 NKJV
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Autism and Asperger's are hidden disabilities... especially Asperger's. You look "normal", but you cannot handle some things like a so called 'normal" person can. I urge all who suspect they have the disability to get a diagnoses. As someone said there are different things out there to help you. There is no faking the disability, it is very real. My son who was diagnosed in the sixth grade had difficulities his whole life. Communicating exactly what you mean is one, but the major one is the lack of empathy for others, and lack of understanding cause and effect. My son is a wonderful sweet, loyal man. However, while he was in school, I could not have bought him a good friend. He joined the National Guard and did great, but when he came home after basic, he ran around with a kid from school and got into trouble. he is a follower and would do whatever to have a friend. They vandalized some business and was sent to prison. He went in at 19 years old and is scheduled to come out this September.
My son was diagnosed as ADD in the first grade......
Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.
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Amen! what a beautifyl testimony. The Autism spectrum holds many different disabilities for an Autistic person. As an autistic person who has been blessed as you have is wonderful. Do you share that with other autistic people?
Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.
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Alot of people with Aspergers have huge issues socially and with anxiety.It is nice when a child is diagnosed at a very early age and going to special classes but that is not always the case.
Happy I'm His
Thank you for your kind words gma dolittle
Happy I'm His
He is very interesting. I have not read his book but have heard him speak at a conference. Liane Holliday Willey's book "Pretending to be Normal" is also excellent.
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Yes,these are good books.
Homesick...
Getting diagnosed is often the hard part... and I even had a first teacher that flat out refused to believe I had ADHD. She had it in her head that I was just a bad disruptive kid. Piled on I was struggling with depression at the time... though I didn't get treatment for that until I was much older. I suffered a pretty shattering loss when I was seven. Most kids don't know how to treat a little girl that had her younger brother die of cancer. (Remember, this was the early 90s. The medical community really didn't know a lot about such things in kids.) I'm still amazed at times that I came through as stable as I did.
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