Lifechurch (Craig Groeschel) in Hendersonville TN. covers Justin Biber song Boyfriend (no joke)

[billiefan2000]

this is what seeker churches call "worship" music

I for those attending these seeker-driven itching ears deathtraps

[billiefan2000]

btw:

this btw is what is considered worship music at Craig's church (and all these videos are from the services at Craig's church)



















and mind you, these are just a few examples. this is like this every week at Groeschel's Lifechurch "churches"

[billiefan2000]

btw:

lifechurch in Hendersonville is doing a "sermon" series based on hit movies starting July 8 2012


(not surprised, that is what most seeker churches do during the summer)

[arkprophecy]

Glad to see you are shining a light on Groeschel. He's a key figure in the Emergent/Leadership Network sewer that is leading people away from Christ. Keep your eye on him, he is marked for high advancement in the Church Growth hierarchy.

His theological background is United Methodist (which he's said publicly he has no problem with—this regarding a thoroughly liberal denomination), and he is steeped in Leadership Network/Catalyst methodology. All this wrapped in a gee-whiz, grinning persona.

He is very disciplined—not as immature and mouthy as his proteges like Steven Furtick and Perry Noble—but his contempt for the old-time religion is just as real.

The Christian Atheist indeed.

[Wishing4]

I just finished reading through Hebrews and picked up on 12:28-29 "Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire."

No reverence or awe as far as I can see. I'm glad I got out of a seeker-going-emergent church-rock-concert.

The church I go to now has a worship leader that stands off to the side, no dimming of the lights, no spotlights, and you can hear the congregation worshiping God. Reverence and awe.

Thank you for pointing fingers and naming names.

[billiefan2000]

Glad to see you are shining a light on Groeschel. He's a key figure in the Emergent/Leadership Network sewer that is leading people away from Christ. Keep your eye on him, he is marked for high advancement in the Church Growth hierarchy.

His theological background is United Methodist (which he's said publicly he has no problem with—this regarding a thoroughly liberal denomination), and he is steeped in Leadership Network/Catalyst methodology. All this wrapped in a gee-whiz, grinning persona.

He is very disciplined—not as immature and mouthy as his proteges like Steven Furtick and Perry Noble—but his contempt for the old-time religion is just as real.

The Christian Atheist indeed.

thanks. he is also a willow creek association pastor.


any church (current or ex willow creek association is automatically suspect in my book

cause many of the ex-wca churches havent changed their theology or opinions on the seeker movement at all, they just dropped their membership with WCA