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    John MacArthur has a series of messages entitled “Why Every Calvinist Should Be a Premillennialist.” I don’t want to give the links, because I’d rather you not read them, but there it is. The transcriptions to his series are interesting, yes, but filled with non-biblical fancy and false presuppositions, which, needless to say is disappointing from such a man.

    Certain areas of John MacArthur’s theological teaching rests on a confutative use of Scripture. That is regretful. I highly admire the man, insofar as his teaching is in accord with Scripture.

    It is at that particular point, “insofar as his teaching is in accord with Scripture” that we part ways.

    In regards to eschatology, premillennial dispensationalism, being of recent origin, has never been the orthodox position of historic Christianity, yet it has grounded itself firmly within evangelical circles disguised as such. John MacArthur of course, is a strict adherent and teacher of said doctrines.

    MacArthur maintains the foundational positions of the system:

    The distinction between Israel and the Church: God is pursuing two distinct purposes, Israel’s is earthly, and the Church’s is heavenly. ”Dispensationalism views them as two different bodies of saints each having its own promises. responsibilities, and expectations” (Earnest Pickering, Dispensational Theology, p.35).
    Employing a ‘consistently literal principle of interpretation’ (which, obviously, neither MacArthur nor any dispensationalists does in reality)
    Declaring God’s purposes center in His glory rather redemption

    Now I have no interest, at least for now, of trying to dismantle dispensational teaching. Actually, it would be too easy, and has been done so many times already ad infinitum.

    However, the title of MacArthur’s posts intrigued me. It’s just ironic really. “Why Every Calvinist Should Be a Premillennialist”. It’s just too funny. It’s like Darth Vader asking Luke to come over to the dark side.

    No thanks.

    Earnest Pickering, whom I quoted above, also said: Reformed theology is basically at odds with the major principles of dispensationalism. (Pickering, Dispensational Theology, p.30)

    That is more than just an interesting statement, it is also telling of a long historical opposition of Reformed theology towards dispensationalism, which MacArthur would have us all embrace. This is the point of my post. MacArthur’s position has been opposed by Calvinists since the proverbial Day 1. Unfortunately, few seem to have noticed.

    Prior to the 1930’s and 40’s, believers became so united in opposition to modernism and evolution that the errors of dispensationalism were yet to be brought to the forefront. In 1944, the Eighty-Fourth General Assembly of the Presbyterian church adopted a report dealing with “whether the type of Bible interpretation known as dispensationalism is in harmony with the Confession of Faith.” It’s conclusion was as follows:

    It is the unanimous opinion of your committee that Dispensationalism as defined and set forth above is out of accord with the system of doctrine set forth in the Westminster Confession of Faith…it attacks the very heart of the theology of our Church… (Presbyterian Church in the U.S., Minutes of the 84th General Assembly, May 25-30, 1944, pp. 123-127)

    I have not even begun to scratch the historical surface of quotes of Reformed theologians in opposition to MacArthur’s position on eschatology.

    The historical facts are, if anyone would bother to research it, that since the inception of dispensationalism to this very day, reformed theology, or Calvinism has opposed premillennial dispensationalism. Yet John MacArthur would have every ‘self-respecting’ Calvinist embrace it? I don’t think so.

    Dispensationalism is unbiblical. It is a lie. It is therefore, quite disheartening to see an expositor of God’s Word with such public influence as John MacArthur, who has done so much in the cause of Truth, to invite those who adhere to the doctrines of grace, to water them down and embrace man-made teachings that denigrate the church, deny fulfillment of prophecy according to God’s Word itself, deny the Kingship of Jesus Christ, etc, in favor of a system of teaching, recent in origin, that opposes the central tenet of Scripture, that of redemption.



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    A calvie food fight!!

    On a side note, for a writer wanting to be taken seriously he/she uses the same silly argument that our position is a recent doctrine. Only a slothful scholar would ignore the writing of the early church who were clearly Pre Mill and Pre Trib in their view. But hey, any people holding to the purist Reformed view will also hold the same views that the original reformers carried over from their Romanist roots. Too bad the reformers didn't pay as much attention to eschatology and Israel as they did to "The just shall live by faith"


    BTW didn't the blog author get the memo, Johnny Mac is the pope of the movement, can he really be questioned?

    There is One King, and He is not this guy.

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    confutative
    Eschew obfuscation!


    It is the unanimous opinion of your committee that Dispensationalism as defined and set forth above is out of accord with the system of doctrine set forth in the Westminster Confession of Faith…it attacks the very heart of the theology of our Church… (Presbyterian Church in the U.S., Minutes of the 84th General Assembly, May 25-30, 1944, pp. 123-127)
    In a fight between the 'theology of your church' and Scripture, Ill take the latter. Dispensationalism is the only framework that makes sense of the entirety of Scripture in its plainest sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
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    deny the Kingship of Jesus Christ, etc, in favor of a system of teaching, recent in origin, that opposes the central tenet of Scripture, that of redemption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootmon View Post
    Eschew obfuscation!


    In a fight between the 'theology of your church' and Scripture, Ill take the latter. Dispensationalism is the only framework that makes sense of the entirety of Scripture in its plainest sense.
    You got that right.

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    It's a big mess isn't it? Calvies are not supposed to believe in a pre-trib rapture or a literal millennium.



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    I suppose the whole opposition thing was predestined....

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    I'm pretty sure at some point John MacArthurs going to take enough friendly fire from his calvinist 'friends' and come to a sane proportionist theology. One could hope? I do pray to that effect! He's a pretty great teacher otherwise.

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    Can a person be a John MacArthur fanatic and Paul Washer fanatic at the same time?
    What if many in the Calvinist field are denouncing MacArthur as one of 'their own'?

    Doesn't the line get drawn somewhere?
    I guess this battle's been going on quite a while.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacinth View Post
    Can a person be a John MacArthur fanatic and Paul Washer fanatic at the same time?
    What if many in the Calvinist field are denouncing MacArthur as one of 'their own'?

    Doesn't the line get drawn somewhere?
    I guess this battle's been going on quite a while.....
    Only if they agree to be leaky calvies, draining amils, and seeping post tribbers.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    Only if they agree to be leaky calvies, draining amils, and seeping post tribbers.
    The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
    Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.
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