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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrie Grace View Post
    Then there is my sister-in-law...I love her dearly, but she is constantly defending him, posts the 0 talking points on Facebook, and generally continues to guzzle the Kool-Aid. When she is confronted with actual facts, she just doesn't respond or does the old "lalalala I can't hear you--quickchangethesubject" defense. She will go down swinging, because she voted for him and just will not admit she voted for a complete disaster.

    How many millions are like her? That is too frightening to contemplate.
    The people I know who defend him, listen to NPR, NBC and the like.

    Recently I asked 2 people if they were following Fast and Furious and they
    had NO idea what I was talking about! Ignorance is bliss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrie Grace View Post
    Then there is my sister-in-law...I love her dearly, but she is constantly defending him, posts the 0 talking points on Facebook, and generally continues to guzzle the Kool-Aid. When she is confronted with actual facts, she just doesn't respond or does the old "lalalala I can't hear you--quickchangethesubject" defense. She will go down swinging, because she voted for him and just will not admit she voted for a complete disaster.

    How many millions are like her? That is too frightening to contemplate.

    Is she interested in history? Ask her if she knows what a useful idiot is.
    Please pray for my daughter Lindsey to seek a relationship with Jesus while he may still be found.

    Tts 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy S. View Post
    Is she interested in history? Ask her if she knows what a useful idiot is.


    I have come verrrrry close...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrie Grace View Post


    I have come verrrrry close...
    Send her this link with my love: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/...ul_idiots.html
    Please pray for my daughter Lindsey to seek a relationship with Jesus while he may still be found.

    Tts 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy S. View Post
    The people I know who defend him, listen to NPR, NBC and the like.

    Recently I asked 2 people if they were following Fast and Furious and they
    had NO idea what I was talking about! Ignorance is bliss.
    Yep. She freely admits that she doesn't really pay attention to what is going on, but when someone posts any sort of article that isn't friendly to "The Won", she is right there with the talking points. I'm pretty sure she just cuts and pastes because the phrasing doesn't even sound like her. And anything negative about 0, and she will undoubtedly point to Bush as the originator. I wonder where she gets that idea....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrie Grace View Post
    Yep. She freely admits that she doesn't really pay attention to what is going on, but when someone posts any sort of article that isn't friendly to "The Won", she is right there with the talking points. I'm pretty sure she just cuts and pastes because the phrasing doesn't even sound like her. And anything negative about 0, and she will undoubtedly point to Bush as the originator. I wonder where she gets that idea....

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurehope View Post
    I have difficulty comprehending how we as a nation have come to this point at all. I mean, why oh why have we decided that health care has anything to do with government? Obviously, they did not ask me. Obviously, there are people with views that are the opposite of mine who have more money and power than me because they somehow pushed this bill through congress.

    I am fearful after watching this presidency and this congress that "they" are outnumbering "us". I mean, what else can I conclude after watching this nation and its leaders for the past few years? My point of view is outdated, old-fashioned, mean-spirited, not fair, not politically correct, etc. Lord, help us.

    The only saving grace after watching the destruction of my country is to believe that we are relatively close to the rapture and to the final tribulation. We'll see.
    I believe the move towards socialism began with the programs that were implemented to help the country out of the Great Depression. The social programs increased and grew and multiplied from there, and government has slowly grown larger and more onerous. For every government employee added, life becomes more difficult for the average American.
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    [QUOTE=igirocks;2260585]I was listening to Rush Limbaugh yesterday' He took a call from a caller asking the same thing "could he just ignore the ruling and execute a presidentail order?" Rush respoded with "well, i doubt he would directly ignore the ruling but, he could still press on and order the IRS to contune enforcing the tax collection mandate" He already hired thousands of agents to enforce the health care law.

    Wait...you mean he's already hired these agents BEFORE his Obamacare law has passed?
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    why oh why have we decided that health care has anything to do with government?
    Because we put communists in power.

    These people have been waiting a l-o-n-g time to find the perfect spokesman spokesMarxist to articulate their views using innocuous code words to fool the population. It worked. Too bad for them the American people woke up in time. Hussein is going back to Chicago next year.
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    I'm in a debate on my blog with some activist who thinks it's the Christian thing to have healthcare for all. I'm so annoyed, but want him to THINK. Please pray I say something to get through to him that will cause him to really come to Christ.

    All I can do is pray about the outcome tomorrow. Ken Cuccinelli has done so much to try and get the mandate overturned as unconstitutional. He is running for Governor in VA and really needs prayers and funds if you feel so led.

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    If this decision is passed it will be the death nail to this economy or to many small businesses in the least. It will effect many Americans. O God, when will these traitors be brought to justice? The ones who so subtly with cunning devices sabotaged what our forefathers worked so hard to obtain--one republic under God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igirocks View Post
    I was listening to Rush Limbaugh yesterday' He took a call from a caller asking the same thing "could he just ignore the ruling and execute a presidentail order?" Rush respoded with "well, i doubt he would directly ignore the ruling but, he could still press on and order the IRS to contune enforcing the tax collection mandate" He already hired thousands of agents to enforce the health care law.

    Wait...you mean he's already hired these agents BEFORE his Obamacare law has passed?

    YES!!! they are already hired and being trained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Bug View Post
    I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that gone are the days of our freedom and liberties. BUT--God is in charge and we know where we will be spending eternity! I can't wait to go Home!! In the meantime I am continuing to pray for the lost.


    Here on earth, those freedoms & liberties have slowly been taken away by a corrupt government.

    We can't wait to go home, and yet, as Christians, we experience ~ daily ~ those freedoms and liberties we have in Christ!

    Freedom:
    John 8:32; John 8:36; Romans 5:15; Romans 5:16...many more verses in the NT.

    Strangers and Pilgrims:
    Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

    Ephesians 2:12; Hebrews 11:13; I Peter 2:11

    And 2 more of my favorites:

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

    In these Last Days, with the current political climate, I can truly say, "Hallelujah! There's a new day on the horizon!"

    Amazing how we can still "be of good cheer" and have "peace" (John 16:33) through our Lord here on this earth with all the sin and tribulation going on around us! Hallelujah! Our God reigneth!! Revelation 19:6
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    I think Obama is going to have a double whammy today. Obamacare will be knocked down in it's entirety and Holder will be held in contempt. Obama is going to be brought down a notch or two. People are fed up with his contempt of the SC, the Congress and the American people. He needs to realize that, Yes, there are three (3) branches of government.


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    15+ minutes to go.

    There are two other cases on the docket that will probably be released first so I wouldn't expect the ruling until a little after 10. Maybe not even until 10:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurehope View Post
    I have difficulty comprehending how we as a nation have come to this point at all. I mean, why oh why have we decided that health care has anything to do with government? Obviously, they did not ask me. Obviously, there are people with views that are the opposite of mine who have more money and power than me because they somehow pushed this bill through congress.

    I am fearful after watching this presidency and this congress that "they" are outnumbering "us". I mean, what else can I conclude after watching this nation and its leaders for the past few years? My point of view is outdated, old-fashioned, mean-spirited, not fair, not politically correct, etc. Lord, help us.

    The only saving grace after watching the destruction of my country is to believe that we are relatively close to the rapture and to the final tribulation. We'll see.
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    SCOTUSblog has been up since 9:00, and taking questions. They were getting questions at the rate of about 5 per second and answered as many as they could before 9:55 when they closed for questions.


    If you want to get the most up-to-date on the ruling, perhaps even before it comes out in the media, here is the link (as always, mods, please delete if not allowed):

    http://www.scotusblog.com/cover-it-live/

    520,000 contemporaneous readers at 10:05 on SCOTUSblog. I did pose the question about young adults staying on their parents' insurance, and got the reply that several major insurers (including mine) have pledged to uphold that no matter what the decision is today.
    "Oir is leatsa an rioghachd, agus an cumhachd, agus a gloir, gu siorraidh, Amen." ("For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever, Amen" -- Scots Gaelic)

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    Entire Obamacare is upheld as a tax, not under commerce clause or necessary-and-proper clause. Not sure exactly what that means -- "tax".
    "Oir is leatsa an rioghachd, agus an cumhachd, agus a gloir, gu siorraidh, Amen." ("For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever, Amen" -- Scots Gaelic)

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    Stolen Valor Act ruled unconstitutional.

    Two more to go.

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    CNN states mandate has been struck down. Waiting for more info...

    SCOTUS blog says mandate survives under the tax clause.

    Oh boy...

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