Another Executive Order!

[Homesick777]

God is co-ordinating events on the chess board. America is Transitioning Toward the Tribulation. Few things go straight down. We've lost power in three of the four engines and descended from 40,000 ft to 8,000 ft. only to discover that the landing gear is now frozen. We're circling... circling... circling, holding our position in the end times, burning off fuel until He decides the time is right. Who can know? When the last Gentile has secured his place in the Kingdom, perhaps Barackus Obamus proclaims a decree throughout the land to begin rounding up those who oppose him, world events are in position, we go Home and the final 8000 foot descent occurs in the blink of an eye. It won't come a second too soon for the watchmen.


I'd like to give Barackus Obamus an October surprise he'll never forget... in July.

[tbrian40]

God is co-ordinating events on the chess board. America is Transitioning Toward the Tribulation. Few things go straight down. We've lost power in three of the four engines and descended from 40,000 ft to 8,000 ft. only to discover that the landing gear is now frozen. We're circling... circling... circling, holding our position in the end times, burning off fuel until He decides the time is right. Who can know? When the last Gentile has secured his place in the Kingdom, perhaps Barackus Obamus proclaims a decree throughout the land to begin rounding up those who oppose him, world events are in position, we go Home and the final 8000 foot descent occurs in the blink of an eye. It won't come a second too soon for the watchmen.


I'd like to give Barackus Obamus an October surprise he'll never forget... in July.

What can I say? Beautifully fatal post. I would like to say though, right before the rapture, I would like to give caesar Barackus Obamus a kick in the rumpus.

[HeIsEnough]

As we all know, the law does violate the constitution, but the President signed it into law anyways. Then it's up to the Judicial Branch to review the law, ruling any laws that violate the constitution as unconstitutional - obviously. Again, in this case, the Judicial Branch failed to rule a law that is obviously unconstitutional as such.

So, the Supreme Court says its constitutional, and you say it is not. Who am I to believe?

So now we have a law in place that has been signed by the president and upheld by the supreme court that is unconstitutional.

If the Supreme Court says it is, it is. I don't know how it can get any clearer. Its easy to see how it is if its a tax. Like it or not, the g-man can do such things. We don't like it, so we must fight within the confines of the situation.

To say it is unconstitutional just sets you up as higher than the court, rendering your honorable opinion from your living room.

The checks and balance system works only if all 3 branches are willing to uphold the constitution. Sadly, the constitution is becoming the favorite document to IGNORE, thus rendering it irrelevant.

One simple example, slavery. For over 50 years, men were not treated as if they were created equal. And for a 100 more, men still didn't want to deal with it. It was not till about 1960 that this country finally got in line with the ideals of the Constitution, and even then it took some more before a black man could actually feel equal in this country. Its just one of many things to complain about in regards to this country and its adhering to the Constitution.

Yet you say its all just irrelevant now, so just ignore everything. Sorry, I won't, and many others will not. Its very simple, fight back, take back the Senate and the Presidency and repeal this law. This county can survive Obama, and turn his silliness back. Even if we don't take the Senate, Romney states he will turn the tables and EO it to oblivion, or the House will not fund it, or Romney will veto what he can to subdue it. People say "nah, I don't believe it." For them, you got nothing, go your way and do nothing, and expect nothing in return. It doesn't help if people allow themselves to think nothing can be done when something can be done, and my bet is the Lord watches us to see if we will do something.

At the same time, this world is rushing towards the end. Its silly to me for people to come in here and think they are declaring something thats not known, like the Devil runs this system, or this country will align for the end. We know that events will overtake anything that can be done politically, prophecy will come true no matter what we do. It doesn't mean we just give up. We do not know whether the Lord will come back before the election, but we do know we can vote him out.

Of all the things we can do, like talk about it endlessly, the one thing men can do is vote, and people are all disjointed and some will not do the one thing they can do, which is to vote, somehow thinking because he is not the perfect candidate, we can pee on it all and walk away. People need to do what they can, while they can, and let the Lord deal with the rest. Its all you can do, its all you ever could do, even if you now finally realize what this world is about. Just because some are waking up to realizations about exactly what we fight against, the spiritual realm, doesn't mean we give up in the physical realm. Fight back with what you have available, or just give up.

[Resting]

You make good points.

I think we all realize this country is mortally sick and dying, there may be some different perception on how far gone we are at this point. We will see how this issue turns out soon enough, if we're still here.

I'm not sure how far gone we are. It is difficult to gauge because we are LIVING IN IT. It seems to me that human beings are very good at adapting to cultural shifts. I definitely see American culture shifting, but cultural shifts seem normal to me.

I definitely see an increase in sin and godlessness.

Be that as it may, God is completely aware of everything going on in this country - and the world. When things look 'out of control' here, we know that's just how it FEELS.

I try to have hope for our country because of this. It gets more difficult each day. The corruption seems to have risk to horrific levels. And when I say corruption, I mean people who do not lead the people with honesty and integrity; rather they make decisions based on what is best for them and their interests. We have come to accept corruption as a part of politics, but it does not have to be this way. I look forward to the Day of the Lord when we are ruled by a benevolant and just ruler whose laws are fair, just, and full of love and whose intent to glorify Himself is entirely warranted!

[carol1948]

I just read several paragraphs by an attorney who has read the whole Supreme Court decision on Obamacare. It is enlightening, and according to this attorney, Justice Roberts was brilliant, as were all five conservative judges. Apparently, the decision that was written nailed down with agreement by all nine justices that Obamacare was not constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and not constitutional under another clause; but as a tax it is constitutional. As a tax it shows Obama as a gross liar to many more people, ignites more support for Romney, it will be easier to dismantle in the Senate requiring a smaller majority, and (this is huge) gives states the leeway to wiggle out of many of its worst provisions, like expanding Medicaid, and others.
Reading this was a balm for my sore confidence in the Supreme Court and Justice Roberts.

[HeIsEnough]

Apparently, the decision that was written nailed down with agreement by all nine justices that Obamacare was not constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and not constitutional under another clause; but as a tax it is constitutional.

I agree in that sense. Some may argue he didn't need to parse things like that, but it is a court, so that is what they do. The SG argued for it at the court, and he got it. I can't really argue much with what Roberts said, basically "its you dumb voters who voted this guy in, deal with it."

Its really all water under the bridge at this point, the path is clear, remove the Offender, Mr. Obama.

[IamHis]

Quote from the EO:
Sec. 5.6. The Federal Communications Commission performs such functions as are required by law, including: (a) with respect to all entities licensed or regulated by the Federal Communications Commission: the extension, discontinuance, or reduction of common carrier facilities or services; the control of common carrier rates, charges, practices, and classifications; the construction, authorization, activation, deactivation, or closing of radio stations, services, and facilities; the assignment of radio frequencies to Federal Communications Commission licensees; the investigation of violations of pertinent law; and the assessment of communications service provider emergency needs and resources;

That's just one red light in this Executive Order, among many.

[IamHis]

This executive order (pardon me if I don't capitalize a lot of nouns as does the order) sounds like a plan for ensuring agency-wide communications in a situation like "It Came from Beneath the Sea" (giant octopus invades California in the fifties). When I read the above, I get the sense of being "out of the loop" (like the octopus).

Maybe it's because when you delete all the communications references, you are left with things like "dispute resolution" and "continuity of government". Hmm...whose government will that be, and who will resolve the disputes? And what kind of "disputes", exactly? Whether to use AM or FM? Paper or plastic? I doubt it.

Obama wants all federal and non-military and private communications under his control. If you read through again, there are several places where it says in all circumstances as well as in emergency situations. He wants the federal government and all its federal appointees to have first priority in communications. If the grid goes down, woe to the 'common man', the federal government will get their power back first. There is also a word in there -'reconstituted'. When it does go back up, if it does, it will go up the way this new agency sees fit. Ignore all the designations of who should report to who and just read the grist of the executive order. Read through it as many times as you need to, and you will see the veiled and not so veiled controls that will be put in place if this gets hammered into reality in this country.

[EmmieAZ]

So, the Supreme Court says its constitutional, and you say it is not. Who am I to believe?



If the Supreme Court says it is, it is. I don't know how it can get any clearer. Its easy to see how it is if its a tax. Like it or not, the g-man can do such things. We don't like it, so we must fight within the confines of the situation.

To say it is unconstitutional just sets you up as higher than the court, rendering your honorable opinion from your living room.



One simple example, slavery. For over 50 years, men were not treated as if they were created equal. And for a 100 more, men still didn't want to deal with it. It was not till about 1960 that this country finally got in line with the ideals of the Constitution, and even then it took some more before a black man could actually feel equal in this country. Its just one of many things to complain about in regards to this country and its adhering to the Constitution.

Yet you say its all just irrelevant now, so just ignore everything. Sorry, I won't, and many others will not. Its very simple, fight back, take back the Senate and the Presidency and repeal this law. This county can survive Obama, and turn his silliness back. Even if we don't take the Senate, Romney states he will turn the tables and EO it to oblivion, or the House will not fund it, or Romney will veto what he can to subdue it. People say "nah, I don't believe it." For them, you got nothing, go your way and do nothing, and expect nothing in return. It doesn't help if people allow themselves to think nothing can be done when something can be done, and my bet is the Lord watches us to see if we will do something.

At the same time, this world is rushing towards the end. Its silly to me for people to come in here and think they are declaring something thats not known, like the Devil runs this system, or this country will align for the end. We know that events will overtake anything that can be done politically, prophecy will come true no matter what we do. It doesn't mean we just give up. We do not know whether the Lord will come back before the election, but we do know we can vote him out.

Of all the things we can do, like talk about it endlessly, the one thing men can do is vote, and people are all disjointed and some will not do the one thing they can do, which is to vote, somehow thinking because he is not the perfect candidate, we can pee on it all and walk away. People need to do what they can, while they can, and let the Lord deal with the rest. Its all you can do, its all you ever could do, even if you now finally realize what this world is about. Just because some are waking up to realizations about exactly what we fight against, the spiritual realm, doesn't mean we give up in the physical realm. Fight back with what you have available, or just give up.

The antichrist system is laying the cards down and we are not immune. Vote of course, but don't expect much is all I can say. If you believe in politicians at this point, you are only deceiving yourself. If you believe that we are indeed living in the last days, as is the board's official opinion, then it makes sense that everything is coming together as the perfect storm. One world government is already here folks, its just that those who will make it happen haven't made it official in the US yet. Our elections are carrots for us strong willed Americans. If we think we have a say, we are happy, and then "they" get away with a whole lot more.

[Verisimilitude]

Today I got the feeling, not a dream or vision, just a feeling that our government has a secret group of people intensely studying not only obvious Bible prophecies, {Mod Snip} Satan knows his time is short. The end times prophecies make it plain that the time left before Jesus returns to rule is short and that disaster upon disaster is right around the corner, and even starting to give us a peek at their affects now.

It looks to me like our government is putting executive orders in place so they can act at a moments notice. They're expecting something and we who believe are expecting something as well. I just wonder if what they believe in is the end times prophecies minus Jesus. That's what I think anyway. There's going to be a massive world take over soon, and the scrambling and jockeying for position are starting to take place. Thank You Lord that through Your grace, Your children are going to be spared from experiencing that most evil of times.

[BarbT]

....the path is clear, remove the Offender, Mr. Obama.

Looking forward to playing a small role in the National Smack Down in Nov.

[Resting]

So, the Supreme Court says its constitutional, and you say it is not. Who am I to believe?



If the Supreme Court says it is, it is. I don't know how it can get any clearer. Its easy to see how it is if its a tax. Like it or not, the g-man can do such things. We don't like it, so we must fight within the confines of the situation.

To say it is unconstitutional just sets you up as higher than the court, rendering your honorable opinion from your living room.



One simple example, slavery. For over 50 years, men were not treated as if they were created equal. And for a 100 more, men still didn't want to deal with it. It was not till about 1960 that this country finally got in line with the ideals of the Constitution, and even then it took some more before a black man could actually feel equal in this country. Its just one of many things to complain about in regards to this country and its adhering to the Constitution.

Yet you say its all just irrelevant now, so just ignore everything. Sorry, I won't, and many others will not. Its very simple, fight back, take back the Senate and the Presidency and repeal this law. This county can survive Obama, and turn his silliness back. Even if we don't take the Senate, Romney states he will turn the tables and EO it to oblivion, or the House will not fund it, or Romney will veto what he can to subdue it. People say "nah, I don't believe it." For them, you got nothing, go your way and do nothing, and expect nothing in return. It doesn't help if people allow themselves to think nothing can be done when something can be done, and my bet is the Lord watches us to see if we will do something.

At the same time, this world is rushing towards the end. Its silly to me for people to come in here and think they are declaring something thats not known, like the Devil runs this system, or this country will align for the end. We know that events will overtake anything that can be done politically, prophecy will come true no matter what we do. It doesn't mean we just give up. We do not know whether the Lord will come back before the election, but we do know we can vote him out.

Of all the things we can do, like talk about it endlessly, the one thing men can do is vote, and people are all disjointed and some will not do the one thing they can do, which is to vote, somehow thinking because he is not the perfect candidate, we can pee on it all and walk away. People need to do what they can, while they can, and let the Lord deal with the rest. Its all you can do, its all you ever could do, even if you now finally realize what this world is about. Just because some are waking up to realizations about exactly what we fight against, the spiritual realm, doesn't mean we give up in the physical realm. Fight back with what you have available, or just give up.

I hope you didn't misunderstand what I was trying to say. I certainly did not mean to imply that I PERSONALLY consider the constitution to be an irrelevant document. I believe it is the law of the land, and should be forever.

I simply disagree with the majority opinion recently handed down by the Supreme Court. There are many reasons, and I'm not going to delve into the tax vs penalty argument, which addresses most of my constitutional concerns.

One of my most common sense reasons for being against this law is that it penalizes Americans for NOT buying something. Let's say I go into a store.

Clerk: Here, buy some cigarettes.
Me: No thanks, I don't want any.
Clerk: You have to. It's the law.
Me: I don't want to buy them. Maybe you can sell them to the next customer.
Clerk: Well, that's too bad. Now you have to pay a $20 penalty.

That just doesn't sound right to me. And when you apply the same concept to forcing people to buy guns (for their own protection) or forcing people to buy organic eggs (because it's healthy for you), I would guess that many people wouldn't conclude those laws were constitutional.

[HeIsEnough]

I don't disagree with anything you said. He should have stated the overriding reason is the commerce clause, not a tax/penalty, and struck the whole thing down.

If our friendly neighborhood IRS agent is collecting it, its a tax, so he is correct on that, and thats what his opinion is based on, seems to me.

Roe v Wade was another bad decision, but it is what it is, its the law. I think the Lord holds us guiltless from things out of our control. I don't think thats the case when we do nothing. People are at least gaining traction at the state level against abortion, and people will fight this as well.

[MROD]

This is the only choices we have. Which one are you going to vote for?
If you say "Not voting" or "Write in", You are voting for OBAMA!

That is what I am trying to wake people up to that fact... the choice has already been made for us. Just like it was between McCain and Obama ... the system is broken. Did you see the postings after the supreme court decision for 0bamacare? they were vile! that is who is in control, powers and principalities ... i do plan on voting and it wont be for obama i can tell you that... but just know that our once great nation is no longer listening to the people here that enjoy liberty and freedom, instead they want to monitor us, suppress us and above all costs KEEP THE TRUTH from us.

[HeIsEnough]

War in the middle east could be the "October surprise" to propel Obama, especially if he somehow manages to stand with Israel.