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    Thirty-five years ago I was delivered from the bondage of Roman Catholicism. That may sound somewhat unkind to many evangelicals today, but it is nevertheless true, as all former Catholics who have been saved by faith alone in Christ alone will attest. Why would we claim that we were set free from bondage? Isn’t that an insult directed at a long-established professing Christian Church that has more than a billion followers? Or is it a reality for all of them? Those who grew up Catholic, as I did for thirty-some years, know what it’s like to have experienced spiritual bondage. But the fact of that bondage is demonstrated simply by contrasting the gospel of Roman Catholicism and its salvation process with the biblical gospel.

    Rome’s gospel is a process of attaining salvation by works . It begins with the Sacrament of Baptism, which starts a person (the overwhelming majority are infants) on a course to heaven. Throughout the process, the individual must stay the Church’s course by remaining in the state of sanctifying grace . Catholicism offers a multitude of Sacraments, sacramentals, and works that it claims will enable a person to do just that. At death, a Catholic must be in the state of sanctifying grace in order to enter Purgatory, an alleged place of purifying fires where the last vestiges of sin are said to be removed before one can enter heaven.

    Here is my personal story—echoing that of a billion souls, many of whom are your neighbors, work associates, school friends, and acquaintances (every one in four people in the U.S. is Roman Catholic). As an infant, I was brought to the priest, and in the presence of godparents received the Sacrament of Baptism, which brought me into the Church and started me on my way to heaven. Baptism cleansed me of original sin and infused me with sanctifying grace. Although we didn’t use the phrase “born again” when I was growing up, more and more Catholics today refer to their baptism that way. (Clearly, that is not what the Scriptures teach about being “born again.”)

    Hypothetically, if my godparent had slipped on the holy water, dropping me right after my baptism and causing my death, I would have gone straight to heaven. No Purgatory—just right straight into the presence of God. This is explained by the Church’s teaching that only the sinless can enter heaven. An infant is stained only by original sin, which is removed at baptism. Thus Purgatory is not necessary for a baptized baby who dies in infancy.

    There does come a time, however, when a child adds his own sins to his soul. When I reached that point and committed what the Church considered a mortal sin, the process of working my way to heaven stopped. A mortal sin short-circuits the process by condemning me to hell. When a child reaches the age at which the Catholic Church considers him or her capable of committing mortal sins, two Sacraments are made available: Penance and the Eucharist.

    The Sacrament of Penance enabled me to confess my sins to a priest, who alone can absolve Catholics of their mortal sins. I made my First Confession at age 7, which was followed by my First Holy Communion. When partaking of communion, also known as the Eucharist, I was told that I was eating the “body and blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ, under the appearance of bread and wine.” That ritual infused sanctifying grace into me and restored the process of my working my way to heaven.

    It’s at this point in a Catholic child’s life that Purgatory comes into the picture. Although the priest absolved my sins (both the deadly sins, known as mortal, and the lesser sins, which are known as venial) at confession, they still needed to be expiated, or atoned for. That is accomplished by doing “acts of penance.” The Catholic teaching is that all sins must be paid for through purifying punishments. Vatican II explains:

    Sins must be expiated. This may be done on this earth through the sorrows, miseries and trials of this life and, above all, through death. Otherwise the expiation must be made in the next life through fire and torments or purifying punishments....[In] purgatory the souls of those...“who had not made satisfaction with adequate penance for their sins and omissions” are cleansed after death with punishments designed to purge away their debt. (V2IDchp1:2, 3)

    Where does Jesus fit in regarding the expiation of sins? The Roman Catholic Church views Christ’s atonement as helpful but not completely sufficient in and of itself. Other “help” is needed:

    [W]e are able through Jesus Christ to make satisfaction to God the Father not only by punishments voluntarily undertaken by ourselves to atone for sins or by those imposed by the judgment of the priest according to the measure of our offense, but also...by the temporal afflictions imposed by God [on the sinner].... (CoT14Schp9)

    Canonized Catholic saints also contribute to expiating sins of others:

    They [i.e., the saints] have carried their crosses to make expiation for their own sins and the sins of others. They were convinced that they could help their brothers to obtain salvation from God who is the Father of mercies….Indeed, the prayers and good works of holy people were regarded as of such great value that it could be asserted that the penitent was washed, cleansed and redeemed with the help of the entire Christian people.... (V2IDchp2:5, 3:6)

    Here is a historical overview of all of this, again from Vatican II:

    From the most ancient times in the Church good works were also offered to God for the salvation of sinners, particularly the works [i.e., sufferings and miseries] which human weakness finds hard. (V2IDchp3:6)

    I would go to confession on Saturday so that I could receive the Sacrament of the Eucharist at Mass on Sunday. My life as a Catholic was a continuous cycle of ascending toward heaven and plummeting toward hell. To sustain the upward process, I would add whatever good works and sacramentals I could in order to stay in the state of sanctifying grace: rosaries, novenas, stations of the cross, Eucharistic holy hours, blessed medals, scapulars, indulgences, personal sufferings, appeals to Mary, prayers to the saints for help, etc., etc. The best I could hope for was that I would die while in the state of grace, while on the ascent, working my way up the ladder. I knew I’d have to face a time of suffering in Purgatory, but eventually I’d get into heaven, or so I hoped.

    How it would turn out for me I couldn’t know; nor could anyone assure me. To tell me that I could know for certain that I was going to get to heaven was itself a ticket to hell. That’s a mortal sin, sometimes referred to as the sin of presumption . Not even the pope knows—and he is called the Vicar of Christ, literally one who stands in the place of Christ on this earth! Nor can he know. The best a Catholic can do is to increase his odds by doing all that the Church tells him to do.

    One thing that needs to be understood is that obedience to the Church is critical for a Catholic to get to heaven. Now, some readers may be thinking about Catholics they know who don’t agree with everything the Church teaches. Such people are sometimes referred to as “cafeteria Catholics”—picking and choosing what they want to obey. They may say they don’t believe in certain dogmas of the Church, but that doesn’t change the Church teaching—or their obligation or the consequences of disobedience—that is, if the Church teaching is true.

    Most Catholics say they don’t believe in obtaining indulgences (the remission of the temporal punishment due to sin)—they believe that their use was done away with 500 years ago. Not so. The latest Catholic Catechism supports Vatican II’s declaration that the Church “teaches and commands that the usage of indulgences—a usage most beneficial to Christians and approved by the authority of the Sacred Councils—should be kept in the Church; and it condemns with anathema those who say that indulgences are useless or that the church does not have the power to grant them.” (V2IDchp4:8)

    Anathema, by the way, means excommunication. In other words, those who do not believe what the Church teaches on this are condemned to hell.

    What most Catholics don’t realize is that they must believe all that the pope and the Magisterium—that is, the infallible teaching office of the Church—declare as teachers of the faith.

    The Christian [read Roman Catholic] faithful...are bound by Christian obedience to follow what the sacred pastors...declare as teachers of the faith or determine as leaders of the Church. (Code of Canon Law - Canon 212-1)

    This loyal submission of the will and intellect must be given, in a special way, to the authentic teaching authority of the Roman Pontiff, even when he does not speak ex cathedra in such wise, indeed, that his supreme teaching authority be acknowledged with respect, and that one sincerely adhere to decisions made by him.... (Vatican II Lumen Gentium 25)

    [The Bishops when] assembled in an ecumenical council, they are, for the universal Church, teachers of and judges in matters of faith and morals, whose decisions must be adhered to with the loyal and obedient assent of faith....[When] the Roman Pontiff, or the body of bishops together with him, define a doctrine, they make the definition in conformity with revelation itself, to which all are bound to adhere and to which they are obliged to submit.... (Vatican II Lumen Gentium 25C2)

    Refusal to submit is a mortal sin.

    Hopefully, you have been comparing the Catholic teachings I’ve been presenting here with what you believe as a biblical Christian. If you have been, you’re probably aware that much of this relates to salvation. Now let’s look at very specific official teachings of the Church of Rome as they relate to salvation in contrast to the biblical gospel.

    The gospel according to God’s Word is that we are saved by grace through faith, that salvation is not of works but it’s a gift of God, as Ephesians:2:8-9

    tells us. We are justified, that is, reconciled to God, by faith alone. Jesus said, “...he that believeth on me hath (present tense) everlasting life (John:6:47). Jesus alone is our Savior. There is no other Savior (Isaiah:45:21). Nor is there any one who can contribute to his or her own salvation. “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved” (Acts:4:12). This is the testimony of the Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation.

    If you interact with believers who are former Catholics, you will very likely hear, “I never heard the gospel as a Catholic.” As a matter of fact, there was a time after getting saved that I thought, Catholics never hear the gospel because the Church doesn’t really understand the biblical gospel. It’s lost in all the added rituals and liturgy . But what I found surprised me. The Roman Catholic Magisterium, the teaching authority of the Church, clearly understands and articulates the gospel better than many evangelicals today—although it condemns it.

    According to the infallible Council of Trent—6th Session, Canon 9:

    If anyone says that...the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification..., let him be anathema.

    6th Session, Canon 12:

    If anyone shall say that... justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy which remits sins for Christ’s sake, or that it is this confidence alone by which we are justified: let him be anathema.

    6th Session, Canon 30:

    If anyone says that...after the reception of the grace of justification the guilt is so remitted and the debt of eternal punishment so blotted out to every repentant sinner, that no debt of temporal punishment remains to be discharged either in this world or in purgatory before the gates of heaven can be opened, let him be anathema.

    Here is one more from the Council of Trent....7th Session, Canon 4:

    If anyone says that the sacraments of the New Law [canons and decrees of the Church] are not necessary for salvation but...without them...men obtain from God through faith alone the grace of justification...let him be anathema.

    That is exactly the message the Catholic Church has been promoting since the mid-1500s. The Council of Trent was a direct response to the Reformation. There has been no substantial change in Catholic dogma since that time, nor could there be, given the Church’s belief in its own infallibility. To change an infallible teaching decreed by an infallible council or pope means to reject the doctrine of infallibility, which in turn would undermine the entire Roman Catholic hierarchy system.

    From the time I was born again (thirty-five years ago) until today, I have observed a grievous change in attitude among evangelicals regarding Roman Catholics. Conditioned throughout those years by such things as the Billy Graham Crusades, Promise Keepers, “Evangelicals and Catholics Together: The Christian Mission in The Third Millennium,” contemplative spirituality, The Catholic Charismatic Renewal, The Passion of the Christ , and the Emerging Church Movement, among many other influences (see TBC archives), few believers recognize the eternal consequences of the false gospel that Catholics believe. Thankfully, that wasn’t the thinking of those who witnessed to me three decades ago; they were keenly aware that I faced separation from God forever.

    Tragically, fewer and fewer American believers understand that they are in the middle of a mission field right where they live. Much of that ignorance can be attributed to the popular and therefore highly influential evangelical leaders of our day (try to name more than a couple of well-known leaders who speak out against the false gospel of Rome). But here we have exposed something that raises a question that may be at the heart of the problem: “Why are so many of those who claim to be biblical Christians following leaders who are not following the Word of God ?” An individual’s ignorance of the Scriptures is basic to the problem, as is an unwillingness to obey what God’s Word says.

    “But Catholics love Jesus just as we do” is the refrain that is common today among most evangelicals. It should be absolutely clear from the official documents quoted above that the Roman Catholic Church has a gospel that rejects Christ’s full payment for the sins of mankind and replaces it with a process of “works salvation.” Tragically, a belief in the Jesus of Roman Catholicism will save no one. This fact needs to weigh upon the heart of every believer who interacts with Catholic friends, neighbors, co-workers, and relatives. TBC http://www.thebereancall.org/content...-mission-field

    More on the Council of Trent http://www.buzzardhut.net/index/htm/trent.htm



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    Praying that Catholics see the light in Jesus and reject the workings of men in Rome. Praying that they are freed from the spiritual and physical bondage of Rome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Praying that Catholics see the light in Jesus and reject the workings of men in Rome. Praying that they are freed from the spiritual and physical bondage of Rome.
    Chris, I found this great response!
    why I left the RCC after 34 years of being a "devout" Catholic

    I am a first time poster here on this forum…..and have been praying about the following testimony….I have decided to put it in this category as I feel it may be found by those Catholics who have come searching for answers….

    I came to know Jesus as my Saviour when I was 17yrs old, but stayed within the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) until this past year as I genuinely believed it was the “one true church”.

    We are taught that from an early age and believed that our Protestant Christian brothers and sisters had sadly strayed from the one true faith and continue to keep “protesting” against one another and creating new churches….

    Yes we viewed them as “Christians” but they sadly did not believe in the Eucharist nor the spiritual nourishment that it provides…along with a number of other rich “traditions”.

    After my conversion, the Holy Spirit did what He does best….slowly convicting me of areas of sin in my life and guiding me in my search for truth.

    I was very involved in the RCC…my entire school education was in Catholic Schools, I was involved in various Catholic ministries and so on…

    Doctrine by doctrine I searched thru the RCC teachings to gain a better understanding of living as a Christian. The trouble being that the more I searched, read and prayed…the more Catholic conferences and leadership seminars I attended….the greater my doubts became.

    I have also traveled to Rome and been in St Peters, visited the Vatican museum and so on….

    I write this because I want to make it quite clear that I was not a non-practicing Catholic nor was I one that was un-educated in the teachings of the Catholic faith and the catechism….

    One by one I found myself disagreeing with the RCC teachings – eventually I realised that there was more I disagreed with than I agreed with.
    In essence I stopped being “catholic” as to be truly catholic one needs to be in agreement with all the churches teachings - submitting to the magisterium of the church in regard to dogmas and doctrine.

    I have always strived to live an honest life with integrity…I realized that I could not really call myself a Catholic when I disagreed with so many of the Churches teachings.

    I had seen many of my Christian friends “Church hopping and shopping” and that lifestyle did not really appeal to me or seem at all encouraging….

    I prayed that God would convict me and lead me….

    The 2 things that I had always believed was 1. The Papacy and 2. the Eucharist.
    Therefore I had stayed in the RCC…..

    But God was about to remove the final scales from my eyes…..it is amazing to me now when I look back on it. You know, for years and years I could read thru John chapter 6 and could only see it for the Catholic interpretation of it….and for many years I failed to understand how my Christian friends could read thru the “I am the bread of life” discourse and not see the truth of the Eucharist in it!!

    Perhaps the Holy Spirit decided at what time it was best to remove those scales …or perhaps me not attending the RCC consistently over a period of 18 months was a catalyst….maybe both.

    You see I have 3 young children. Following the birth of my youngest I have had a number of health problems…that coupled with littlies getting childhood sickness – meant that I was not attending church as frequently as I would have liked to.

    When I could not attend church – I would spend some time at home in prayer and praise and reading God’s word – in an attempt to unite myself with my brothers and sisters in Christ who were attending church.

    It was my desire to be fellowshipping and I believe God honoured that – He took me by the hand and fed me Himself from His word.

    Then one day when I was reading the scripture from Matthew 16 13-20 ( this is where Catholics believe that Christ made Peter the first pope and thus began the papal succession).

    However I read that particular passage and the Holy Spirit peeled the scales off my eyes and showed me that this verse does not mean that at all!!

    Wow – what a revelation…..so now if I could not trust the papal succession and it’s “authority” what else of the RCC teachings could I trust? Surely the Eucharist is based on truth???

    Well I opened up my Bible and read the whole of John 6 (in fact John 5-7) and the Holy Spirit set to work removing the scales from my eyes again……I was dumbfounded at first…..I could not believe that I had read theses passages so many times over the years and suddenly I saw them for what they truly were….

    And I realized that the truth of the Eucharist is – that it is not transformed into the body and blood of Jesus at all…..this came as quite a shock for me…..as a catholic I had always shown great reverence and respect for the Eucharist….I believed (as all good Catholics do) that we had been given this gift by Jesus himself to strengthen us in our spiritually journey here….

    And here came the biggie…..if I was worshiping the consecrated host as Jesus (which we are taught and which I did) and it is not Jesus…..then I am worshiping a false idol!!!

    I repeat…worshiping the Eucharist as God - if it is not – is idolatry!!!

    Well you could have blown me down with a feather!!

    I find it rather interesting that many Christians take Catholics to task re idol worship and statues and so on…..the truth is that whilst there may be some Catholics who use religious artwork/sculptures as idols…most actually do not….all Catholics however do participate in the Eucharist! And when I say all – I mean those who are practicing Catholics as opposed to nominal or cultural Catholics.

    So after reading these scriptures with eyes opened – I had a serious think about what the teachings surrounding the Eucharist involve….and I was brought to great sorrow.

    I repented and asked God for forgiveness for participating in this and I thanked the Holy Spirit for convicting my heart of this….and then I realized…I must have no more to do with this falsehood….God convicted my heart to leave the catholic church.

    In some ways it was easy to do – one does not argue with God when He gives marching orders lol!!

    However – this had been my “spiritual place of belonging” for so long – people I had grown up with since birth…people I regarded as my brothers and sisters in Christ….wonderful, kind people who I believe are genuinely seeking after The Lord as best they can….even the parish priest was a lovely man with a huge heart of love and compassion….

    But God is so very kind and merciful…and He provides the strength we need when our own fails us!

    I have reason to believe that there is indeed a “spiritual” nature to the Eucharist….only I don’t believe this spirit to be that of God!

    I believe that one of the reasons so many Catholics who find Jesus as their saviour – but stay in the church – is because of the spiritual blindness inflicted by participation in the Eucharist….

    When I broke the news to my devout Catholic mum about my decision – she asked how did I get on without the spiritual nourishment of the Eucharist as she believed this had been so beneficial to her in her spiritual life…..I told her that God is so good and faithful and loves me so much that His word provides me with the spiritual nourishment that I need….that indeed Jesus has chosen to live in me and because I am sealed with the Holy spirit I can trust in Him and the promise of salvation that He has given me so freely!

    So I would say to those Catholics who are reading this…be not afraid….ask God to guide you with His Holy Spirit….

    There are many who speak very ill of Catholics and the RCC….and even though I have left – I want to say this …..despite what some may have said on this board or elsewhere…the Spirit of God is moving in and working in the hearts of many within the RCC….leading people to the knowledge and joy of salvation, convicting people of their sinfulness, strengthening and guiding those who are genuinely seeking after God!
    Just as He is working in all Christian Churches despite their false teachings and sinful greedy practices….it is the Father’s desire that no one be lost and that all would come to repentance and belief and trust in who Jesus is and what He accomplished on the cross for us!

    Yes there is false teachings in many churches….some minor ones and some very serious ones – we must all ask God to guide us in His truth and be open to His leading in our lives.

    I thank God for setting me free from falsehood and my prayer is that many others will also come to have their spiritual blindness healed



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    That was a great response. My own story is pretty similar and is detailed in my new book which will be released in mid-August. Ebook and audiobook versions of "The Shift, Moving from religion to relationship, My view from the pew" should be out the last week of July on my website. I don't Catholic bash but do point out errors that have been taught. I also take some of my Protestant brethern to task on some attitudes and beliefs regarding their own traditions. Nearly 500 scriptural quotes in the 176 pages. There will be some things you will like and some things you won't. I also pose some challenges to both my Catholic and Protestant friends.

    Catholics didn't get everything wrong. I haven't been a practicing Roman Catholic since the early 1980s.
    It is by faith alone in Jesus Christ I am saved and scripture is my only standard. If tradition doesn't match scripture, out goes the tradition.

    If moderators allow it, I will post my web/blog site when the product is officially released. I will get the final proof (one complete book) Friday. Need to double-check and then overnight it back to printer for final printing.

    (Tried to upload an image of the cover but having trouble.) Image availble at www.ok-johnson.com

    God bless.

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    I want to thank all of you for your testimonies. I can see where it took courage to leave what you had been taught since a baby. I thank God you were shown how Christ is the only way to salvation. I have learned much that I did not know. I am not sure what lable one would put on me, but I perfer a "born again " child of God. I was raised Free Will Baptist and I still go to the little country church I was raised in. As long as no one teaches anything that isn't Bibical, I will continue to go there. I have a couple study Bibles, but I rely mainly on what the Holy Spirit reveals to me. I don't read Billy Graham books or any other because I want to rely on the Bible and the Holy Sprit for my understanding... not what someone else thinks... my soul is too precious to me, and the price paid for it was too high to lightly follow any man or woman on this earth. grandma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzardhut View Post
    Chris, I found this great response!
    Praise the Lord!! Another one snatched from the clutches of Rome.

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    I left the Catholic Church 30 years ago and it was very hard. My parents were staunch Catholics in name only, if that makes sense, and were very angry that I left. All of my early life I was told the church was the only true one, non-Catholics were going to hell, ect. Yet, God in all of His grace and mercy, taught me the truth in ways I could understand as a young believer. My dad was a life long alcoholic and at his memorial service a friend of his spoke about him being in purgatory, waiting to enter Heaven
    Buzz...keep posting on the Catholic church!!!

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    See posts #12 & 16 in this thread One Hundred Fifty Reasons I'm Catholic for a good read on the topic of the Catholic Church.

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    Years back at one of the last catholic masses I attended, the priest made a point of how important it is to attend mass, because only there can one partake of the Eucharist and take Jesus into themselves. It's quite a hook. Only a roman catholic priest can take wine and bread, turn them into the body and blood of the Lord Jesus, and still have them look like bread and wine. One must go to mass to get the Eucharistic nourishment.

    I add my prayers that the Lord would open up the eyes of those who are truly seeking the real Jesus, and who unfortunately get waylaid by the rcc. The One True Church is filled with true believers, no wolves in sheeps clothing, and Jesus and Him Only is the Head of that Church.




    My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.
    For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; the flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land; the fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

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    Hi this is hopefilled - thanks Buzz for directing me here...been rather busy...but I have enjoyed reading thru this forum and the wonderful testimonies.....I continue to pray for all Catholics who are still held in spiritual bondage within the RCC.....the idolatry of the eucharist and resulting spiritual blindness causes me great concern - so I earnstly pray for all in the RCC (most of my family and inlaws included)...that our Heavenly Father would remove the scales from their eyes so they may see it for what it really is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefilled View Post
    Hi this is hopefilled - thanks Buzz for directing me here...been rather busy...but I have enjoyed reading thru this forum and the wonderful testimonies.....I continue to pray for all Catholics who are still held in spiritual bondage within the RCC.....the idolatry of the eucharist and resulting spiritual blindness causes me great concern - so I earnstly pray for all in the RCC (most of my family and inlaws included)...that our Heavenly Father would remove the scales from their eyes so they may see it for what it really is...



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