I have some questions...about supporting Israel and having the Star of David to support Israel

[Snoopynstorm]

All, so I won't be sinning? Because I thought I heard your not suppose to have something representing Israel...

[iSong6:3]

All, so I won't be sinning? Because I thought I heard your not suppose to have something representing Israel...

Who said that and what was their reason? Is it a cultic *rule*?

It's not a prohibition found in the Bible.

I would say, on behalf of the Jewish people, that it's not a good idea to do if your intention is to pretend you're Jewish. But if you want to express your solidarity with the Jewish people and use inquiries to say something like "No, I'm not Jewish but I support Israel" and give reasons why, that's a lovely thing.

[Snoopynstorm]

Who said that and what was their reason? Is it a cultic *rule*?

It's not a prohibition found in the Bible.

I would say, on behalf of the Jewish people, that it's not a good idea to do if your intention is to pretend you're Jewish. But if you want to express your solidarity with the Jewish people and use inquiries to say something like "No, I'm not Jewish but I support Israel" and give reasons why, that's a lovely thing.

I'm not sure who it was. I read it a long while back. I was reading online and the page I found, the person sounded quite upset. Actually, I think I remember reading it at home,I was in the 11th grade (2009-2010).

The reason would be to show my support for Israel. I'd love to do that.

[Momma D]

Many years ago, I started wearing a necklace of a Star of David with a cross in the center.
A Jewish friend saw it and thought it was an amazing testimony of the faithful commitment Christians
have to Jews. He even called another Jewish friend over so he could see it too...
He took no offense, indeed...just the opposite, he loved it.

[iSong6:3]

I'm not sure who it was. I read it a long while back. I was reading online and the page I found, the person sounded quite upset. Actually, I think I remember reading it at home,I was in the 11th grade (2009-2010).

The reason would be to show my support for Israel. I'd love to do that.

There is nothing in God's Word that prohibits it. It is a lovely gesture, imo, go for it.

[lovePsalm40]

I have Jewish heritage and used to wear a Star of David with a cross. My friend who was and is studying to be a rabbi took great offense to it. Her views are off on several fronts, and yes, being a woman rabbi is 'off' also...so her taking offense makes me think it is probably considered OK by some and not by others. If you are trying to witness to Jews, I'd say not to wear both just incase. I no longer do, but I've taken to only wearing wedding rings for the most part....you might find a Jew and ask them if it is offensive to them (just a regular Jewish person, not a female Gentile-turned-Messianic rabbi).

[Jesuschangesall]

Stars? Crosses? Horns?Amulets?Charms?......
Better no wear anything,in my opinion.....
No legalism in a way or other....just be free to be free,because of JESUS ,He Is THE STAR......
and...I love Israel,no problem....

[Lehdsn]

I have read that the 6 pointed star is not of Jewish origin.. that the Israelites used the Menorah in the past.
Hitler decreed that the Jews had to wear a yellow 6 pointed star during the holocaust. A hexagram.
Hexagram was used by those involved in the occult.
Solomon married the daughter of Pharoah, and built an altar to Ashtoreth and Moloch... human sacrifices were offered to Moloch...and the 6 pointed star was called the Seal of Solomon. (Solomon became involved in Egyptian idol worship, and GOD warned him about it.) I believe I read about it also in "The Two Babylons" and that this figure is also used in freemasonry, by the Rothchilds, the Druids used it, Kabala and so on.
Just want to note that this "image" has quite an extensive history, as do most that we see around us today.
No judgement intended here.
The Menora represents the figure 7...7 candles, etc. The star... the figure 6. 6 triangles, 6 points, 6 sides. 666.
Things to ponder...
Maranatha.... Louise

[Snoopynstorm]

Wow, thanks for the warning. I'm glad I didn't order it now. How can I show my support to Israel than? Wait, is this bad as well on here?

[Lehdsn]

Please don't think that my post is about what should or should not be done. It was written in the spirit of passing on information, and hopefully help you with any decisions that you need to make.
Believe me....if proper "etiquette" for any forum depended on this writer, we'd all be in trouble.
So... onward and upward. Soon, I pray.
Maranatha... Louise

[Lehdsn]

and always... for the peace of Jerusalem!
HE said so!

[RaptureReady_7]

Many years ago, I started wearing a necklace of a Star of David with a cross in the center.
A Jewish friend saw it and thought it was an amazing testimony of the faithful commitment Christians
have to Jews. He even called another Jewish friend over so he could see it too...
He took no offense, indeed...just the opposite, he loved it.

I wear a Star of David with a Cross in it to show my support for Israel. Have for years. It is always a conversation starter.

Funny story: A guy working in a big grocery store chain saw my necklace, when I was shopping, and said his brother (they are Jewish) wears one also, since his brother is Messianic. I told him I was not Jewish, but that I support Israel. He said, "no, it is OK to be Jewish and believe in Jesus" (even though he did not personally) and for me not to care what others thought. I tried explaining I was not Jewish, but he just winked and said not to worry about it, he was not offended.

I gave up and just said thanks. But I get conversation starters like that all the time.

[RaptureReady_7]

I have read that the 6 pointed star is not of Jewish origin.. that the Israelites used the Menorah in the past.
Hitler decreed that the Jews had to wear a yellow 6 pointed star during the holocaust. A hexagram.
Hexagram was used by those involved in the occult.
Solomon married the daughter of Pharoah, and built an altar to Ashtoreth and Moloch... human sacrifices were offered to Moloch...and the 6 pointed star was called the Seal of Solomon. (Solomon became involved in Egyptian idol worship, and GOD warned him about it.) I believe I read about it also in "The Two Babylons" and that this figure is also used in freemasonry, by the Rothchilds, the Druids used it, Kabala and so on.
Just want to note that this "image" has quite an extensive history, as do most that we see around us today.
No judgement intended here.
The Menora represents the figure 7...7 candles, etc. The star... the figure 6. 6 triangles, 6 points, 6 sides. 666.
Things to ponder...
Maranatha.... Louise

So the Israeli flag is pagan and wrong?

The design used in occult have differences in the design. All the occult pentagrams I found were 5 points and 2 tend to be elongated.

[iSong6:3]

I have read that the 6 pointed star is not of Jewish origin.. that the Israelites used the Menorah in the past.
Hitler decreed that the Jews had to wear a yellow 6 pointed star during the holocaust. A hexagram.
Hexagram was used by those involved in the occult.
Solomon married the daughter of Pharoah, and built an altar to Ashtoreth and Moloch... human sacrifices were offered to Moloch...and the 6 pointed star was called the Seal of Solomon. (Solomon became involved in Egyptian idol worship, and GOD warned him about it.) I believe I read about it also in "The Two Babylons" and that this figure is also used in freemasonry, by the Rothchilds, the Druids used it, Kabala and so on.
Just want to note that this "image" has quite an extensive history, as do most that we see around us today.
No judgement intended here.
The Menora represents the figure 7...7 candles, etc. The star... the figure 6. 6 triangles, 6 points, 6 sides. 666.
Things to ponder...
Maranatha.... Louise

Quite sure the Israeli flag is not an homage to the occult. It is now the symbol of Judaism in intent.

The Christmas tree comes from pagan origins but things are not evil in themselves, words and symbols are given their meaning value by the intent of the user and the understanding of the other in communication. A tree in a home in December does not make one a pagan. Wedding rings were also used by pagans. All married people are not showing their adherence to pagan gods by wearing them. The money we have in our wallets has pagan symbols on them, doesn't make us wrong to use money. There are many more examples in our modern life.

[RaptureReady_7]

Wow, thanks for the warning. I'm glad I didn't order it now. How can I show my support to Israel than? Wait, is this bad as well on here?

This board is extremely pro Israel. And the Star of David is NOT occultic. Not even a little bit.

An explanation of the Star of David. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_David

The hexagram does appear occasionally in Jewish contexts since antiquity, apparently as a decorative motif. For example, in Israel, there is a stone bearing a hexagram from the arch of a 3rd–4th century synagogue in the Galilee.[3] Originally, the hexagram may have been employed as an architectural ornament on synagogues, as it is, for example, on the cathedrals of Brandenburg and Stendal, and on the Marktkirche at Hanover. A pentagram in this form is found on the ancient synagogue at Tell Hum. In the synagogues, perhaps, it was associated with the mezuzah.

The use of the hexagram in a Jewish context as a possibly meaningful symbol may occur as early as the 11th century, in the decoration of the carpet page of the famous Tanakh manuscript, the Leningrad Codex dated 1008. Similarly, the symbol illuminates a medieval Tanakh manuscript dated 1307 belonging to Rabbi Yosef bar Yehuda ben Marvas from Toledo, Spain. A Siddur dated 1512 from Prague displays a large hexagram on the cover with the phrase, "He will merit to bestow a bountiful gift on anyone who grasps the Shield of David."[4]

more at the link

[Lehdsn]

I apologize for my post concerning the origins of the "star of David."
Have been pro Israel all my life. Pray daily for the peace of Jerusalem.
Did not realize that my information would offend...that certainly was not my intention.
Was attempting to provide information on the origins of that particular emblem. Most "signs" have unusual, to say the least, origins. Lesson learned. Mea Culpa, or Culprit.
In the future, will keep my understandings and research output to myself.
Maranatha... Louise

[icebear]

i want one of these http://www.israeliproducts.com/p/jew...ts/JEWLOI.html

[RaptureReady_7]

I apologize for my post concerning the origins of the "star of David."
Have been pro Israel all my life. Pray daily for the peace of Jerusalem.
Did not realize that my information would offend...that certainly was not my intention.
Was attempting to provide information on the origins of that particular emblem. Most "signs" have unusual, to say the least, origins. Lesson learned. Mea Culpa, or Culprit.
In the future, will keep my understandings and research output to myself.
Maranatha... Louise

No offense taken.

I was just eplaining that there is a history there for the Star of David that is good.

[Snoopynstorm]

I apologize for my post concerning the origins of the "star of David."
Have been pro Israel all my life. Pray daily for the peace of Jerusalem.
Did not realize that my information would offend...that certainly was not my intention.
Was attempting to provide information on the origins of that particular emblem. Most "signs" have unusual, to say the least, origins. Lesson learned. Mea Culpa, or Culprit.
In the future, will keep my understandings and research output to myself.
Maranatha... Louise

Oh, no don't keep your findings to yourself. s We need that info. (which might be something that you tell us) to help us just in case there's something wrong. If we're doing something wrong and you research and find that out please tell us. It's better to be corrected that to continue in sin. s

[Lehdsn]

I understand that we can always find a "good" reason for using or identifying with a symbol, or emblem.
That was not why I wrote about some of the 'mystical' meanings of the Mogen David.
Yes, I have seen where it's argued that either a 5 point or a 6 point star was used, historically...

Even if the entire world embraces it.... if it's roots lie in Babylon, and are connected with the occult...shouldn't a watchman on the wall proclaim that information to fellow believers?
If Hitler used that symbol (and he WAS a participant in the occult, according to history) to identify Jews, prior to and during the holocaust (Holocaust means burning) and these doomed souls were incinerated by him... even if the nation of Israel chooses to use that emblem....it does not obliterate the data that the symbol has been used, and continues to be used, in the practices of the occult. Prophecy tells us that sorceries will increase in the end times.
They are.
Again... I am pro Israel.
I have a heart for the people from whom comes my salvation. If they had not been temporarily blinded, I could not stand in Grace. Romans 11:11, Romans 11:25.
Salvation is of the Jews. I am an adopted child of Abraham. The bible tells me so.
And so, this watchman continues to watch, and read, and wash daily in the WORD, and pray that her attempts to pass on information to the 'body' are not misunderstood.
Maranatha... Louise