trib-saints and mark of the beast

[Snoopynstorm]

I really need to know. Is it possible for a trib-saint to take the mark? How is it even possible someone bought with His blood to take the mark?

Any scripture would be very nice.

[Alex]

No. A trib saint will not take the mark of the breast. If any person takes the mark they are lost to satan so they are not a trib saint.

I am sure a brother and sister will come along quickly and give the scripture. I don't have my bible with me.

[Snoopynstorm]

So, was the angel wrong?

edit:The angel didn't come to me. It was an angel that I read on a site about. Not sure if I'm allowed to link.

[Alex]

This is from one of Todd's RR Front Page articles.

At first, it may seem rather easy to secretly be a follower of Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, very soon the Antichrist will be requiring everyone to receive a mark in his or her right hand or forehead. This electronic implant will be the means by which everyone will buy and sell goods and services. If you do not have this implant, it will become quite obvious.

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"
(Revelation 13:17).

Because the Bible says that everyone who receives this implant (Mark of the Beast) will be eternally lost, I'm going to strongly advise you to decline the offer when the government informs you that it has your implant ready for insertion.

"And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name"
(Revelation 14:11).

[Alex]

I really need to know. Is it possible for a trib-saint to take the mark? How is it even possible someone bought with His blood to take the mark?

Any scripture would be very nice.

Having re-read your question, you have two different groups mixed up.
Saints... Saved by Grace, bought with His blood are those who come to Jesus before the rapture and Tribulation. (Those who are truly saved now or in the past)

Trib Saints... Are those who turn to the Lord after the Tribulation starts, endures the tribulation and or dies for Christ during. (Many will be the fence-setters of today)
But if any one takes the mark during the trib... That seals the deal and that person is lost for ever.

[Snoopynstorm]

Having re-read your question, you have two different groups mixed up.
Saints... Saved by Grace, bought with His blood are those who come to Jesus before the rapture and Tribulation. (Those who are truly saved now or in the past)

Trib Saints... Are those who turn to the Lord after the Tribulation starts, endures the tribulation and or dies for Christ during. (Many will be the fence-setters of today)
But if any one takes the mark during the trib... That seals the deal and that person is lost for ever.

I thought the trib Saints would be washed in His blood as well. I'm sorry, I'm really confused.

[SoundingtheAlarm]

http://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bibl...ion-believers/

What About Tribulation Believers?
My question centers around two groups of people:
1.the ones that die during the tribulation after becoming saved and 2. those who survive to end of the tribulation and are saved. Since the “church age” ends with the rapture, what does that make people of groups 1 and 2? Won’t they also be saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ?


Q. Thanks for your time, you have been a great help in my studies. After a year of studying prophecy, I finally have found peace with the pre trib rapture doctrine. I truly believe the Holy Spirit opened my eyes to the truth and after reading many different interpretations, I finally turned to the one thing I wasn’t doing, which ironically was reading the Word of God for myself. This truly has opened my eyes.

However, after settling on the rapture issue, I now have a question about dispensationalism. Correct me if I’m mistaken, but the church age ends with the rapture. However, the “dispensation of grace” still continues, correct? If this is the case, my question centers around two groups of people:
1.those who die during the tribulation after becoming saved and
2.those who survive to end of the tribulation and are saved.

In Ephesians 2:6-10 Paul says we (the church) will serve as an example of the incomparable grace of our Lord in the coming ages. Since the “church age” ends with the rapture, what does that make people of groups 1 and 2? Won’t they also be saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ? So won’t they also serve as an example of God’s incomparable grace through eternity?

While I’m on the subject, I have also wondered, do saved Israel trib saints and gentile trib saints share the same destiny throughout eternity or the millennium?

After the Millennium and the Great white throne judgment is ended, perhaps they (Israel and gentile trib saints) too will become part of the church and serve as an example of God’s grace throughout the rest of eternity?

A. You’ve asked a complex question but I’ll try to make the answer as simple as possible. The thing that ends with the Rapture is membership in the Church. People were saved before the Church age and people will be saved after it, both Jew and Gentile. The thing that pre and post Church believers don’t receive is the Church’s destiny. They won’t be the Bride of Christ, won’t be seated with Him on His throne, won’t dwell in the New Jerusalem, etc.

According to Rev. 7:14-17 and 20:6 Tribulation martyrs serve the Lord as priests in His Temple. The Sheep and Goat judgment of Matt 25:31-46 explains that those who are saved and survive the Great Tribulation go into the Kingdom in their natural states and help re-populate the Earth, Jews to Israel and Gentiles to the nations.

As far as what happens after the Millennium, the Bible is silent.

[RandallB]

The Tribulation Saints (Believers) are both the Tribulation Martyrs as well as the Sheep that are invited into the Millenial Kingdom as mortals.

Tribulation Saints also are accepted into the Lord's kingdom thru faith in the Lord's sacrifice as demonstrated by their treatment of Jews (for one thing).

The Parable of the 10 Virgins is about the Tribulation timeframe. It shows that some of those that start out believing may run out of "Belief" before their end and end up not being allowed into the Lord's presence.

I have no scripture that shows this but if some can run out of "Belief" then I would not be surprised if they could then also accept the Mark o' Beast.

The Once Saved Always Saved promise is only for the Bride. The OT and Trib Believers are not guaranteed that.