Recently, someone on my FB posted a couple of videos of teachings by John Crowder. I did some research (through rr) and found him to be on the "false teachers" list. I posted a comment to kindly warn them to be careful of him. There were 2 responses to my comment. Here they are:
1.) "Actually I've been following him for awhile. He loves Jesus, preaches Jesus and the cross. He has alot of good fruit in his ministry. Good fruit doesnt come from bad trees."
2.) "Actually some of these mystical experiences are Biblical:
-Teleportation: teleporation of a boat to the shore in John 6:16-21.
-Out of body: 2 Corinthians 12:2 "I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven." Paul doesn't know if it's out of body, but did consider it a possibility, so we know out of body is possible with God and not demonic.
-Walking on water, cursing trees and having them wither away, turning water into wine, transfiguring, moving mountains, ascension into the sky, parting a sea, turning a stick into a serpent, drinking poison without getting harmed, handling snakes without harm, creating the universe, etc are other things of God.
They're not making fun of God when they mention these things, but are attempting to offend the religious spirit as well as proclaim that God can do anything He wants even if it looks foolish to us. The problem is church putting God in a box."
After watching some of John Crowder's videos, I don't agree with his tactics of trying to reach people. I watched an interview with him and he really seems to love the Lord. He doesn't use drugs, at all, and hasn't since he gave them up in 1995 (after his "encounter" with Jesus on acid). However, I don't agree with how he tries to have people act like they are actually smoking drugs but instead calling it the Holy Spirit. Therefore, I am NOT a "follower" of him.
Concerning the responses that I got, I don't think John 6:16-21 has any leg to stand on as being considered "teleportation" since they ROWED the boat in those verses. My thinking for some of the other stuff is that the walking on water & different things were done by Jesus (God) Himself. I'd like to get some insight from everyone else about some loving, wise responses (& verse references) that I could possibly make to these people to help them see that this guy and his tactics are not in line with the Word.