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    Exclamation Russia to keep Tartus base...Russia connects Syria, the Caucasus, and Iran in the article

    Russia will maintain its logistics naval station in the Syrian port of Tartus. Commenting on the issue earlier this week, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov accentuated the importance of the Tartus base in providing logistics services to the anti-piracy mission in the Gulf of Aden.

    He said that there were ten Russian warships and ten support ships in the Mediterranean now, as part of planned maneuvers announced last year.

    On July 10, a combined squad of Russia’s Northern, Baltic and Black Sea Fleets entered the Mediterranean on a three-month-long training mission to practice anti-piracy and rescue efforts. Some of the ships will call at Tartus.

    Colonel General Leonid Ivashov, President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, said in an interview that as long as Russia positioned itself as a naval power, it must have ports, mooring sites or, preferably, naval bases abroad. Russia pulled out of Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam and also out of Aden. Tartus is the only site where Russian ships can dock for refueling and repairs and allow their crews to rest a little, he said.

    "Strictly speaking, the Tartus station is not a naval base. We only have a floating repair dock there. The port is not equipped to be a base, but potential changes are possible. If we maintain our presence there, modernization will be needed."

    Anatoly Tsyganok, head of the Military Forecast Center, echoes that with tension mounting around Syria and military intervention not altogether unlikely, the Russian base in Tartus acquires vital geopolitical significance.

    "If Russia loses that base, it will have nowhere in the Mediterranean to fuel or repair its ships. The moment Russia loses the Tartus base, it will also lose Syria. Consequently, and I deem it quite possible, military actions against Iran may begin. That scenario will create very complicated problems for Russian troops stationed in the Caucasus. Therefore, and it should be admitted frankly, when we talk about Syria, we talk about Iran and the Russian troops in the Caucasus."

    Russia has never made a secret of its intention to keep its logistics base in Tartus.
    http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_07_27/Ru...p-Tartus-base/

    Someone shoot me now!

    Isn't it the Caucasus region that Russian troops will have to use to enter Israel during Gog/Magog?

    Is that a main route that their troops will have to use??

    Am I jumping ahead of myself, looking for dots to connect?

    Any one else heard about The Gates of Alexander?

    The Gates of Alexander were a mythical barrier supposedly built by Alexander the Great in the Caucasus to keep the uncivilized barbarians of the north (usually associated with the Gog and Magog legend) from invading the land to the south. The gates were a popular subject in medieval travel literature, starting with the Alexander Romance in a version from perhaps the 6th century AD. The wall has been frequently identified with the Caspian Gates of Derbent, Russia (see below).

    In the Alexander Romance, Alexander chases his enemies to a pass between two peaks in the Caucasus known as the "Breasts of the World". He decides to imprison the "unclean nations" of the north, which include Gog and Magog, behind a huge wall of steel or adamantine. With the aid of God, Alexander and his men close the narrow pass, keeping the uncivilized Gog and Magog from pillaging the peaceful southern lands. The nature of the pass is never very clear; some sources say it is a pass between mountains, while others say it is a pass between the peaks and the Caspian Sea.

    The story appears in the Qur'an, Surat al-Kahf (The Cave) 83-98, where the great hero Dhul-Qarnayn ("The Two-horned One") constructs the gates to protect the innocent people at the feet of the mountains from Gog and Magog. That this story appeared in a fictional account before the Qur'an was written has caused some controversy among Islamic scholars, though some would argue that "Dhul-Qarnayn" is not supposed to be Alexander at all, but rather some earlier or later conqueror.
    http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/LX/The...Alexander.html

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    The Building of Alexander's Gates from an early Arabic manuscript.


    Al-Idrisi's World Map with Gog and Magog behind the wall and circled in red. Note, this map is oriented to the south so here Gog and Magog are in the proximity of China.

    Too much coffee today, guys.

    (Gog/Magog in the Koran: http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/nora/html/18-94.html)

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    Default Annan quits as international Syria mediator: U.N.

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    I will be very, very interested to see who takes over Middle East peace negotiations for the UN now!

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    I'd like to see John bolton get in the mix somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raphael View Post
    There's only so much condemning and deploring one man can do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarionCall View Post
    I will be very, very interested to see who takes over Middle East peace negotiations for the UN now!
    Wow! ME TOO!
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    Was only just thinking last night and was going to mention, where the UN has been just recently not hearing anything from them. Was wondering if they had just given up and now here's news this morning (AEST of course) Annan has quit.

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    Default Syria moves missiles to Lebanese border

    The Syrian army has moved new surface-to-air missile batteries to the Lebanese border, Arab media reported Friday. The report comes after Israel had warned it will strike Syria's chemical facilities if President Bashar Assad transfers his chemical stockpile to Hezbollah.
    On Thursday, a Lebanese defense official told the Hezbollah-affiliated Al-Akhbar newspaper that the Syrians have shared some of the details of their deployment with the Lebanese. According to the source, the Syrians have devised a comprehensive military plan along the Lebanese border.

    The London-based al-Sharq al-Awsat also addressed the deployment. A Lebanese military source told the paper there is no concrete information on the deployment of surface-to-air batteries on the border. He explained that the reinforcements were routine steps taken by the Syrian army in order to prevent the infiltration of gunmen from Lebanon into Syria.
    Lebanese military expert Nizar Abdul Kader said, "The Syrian military reinforcements were meant to warn outside elements of mounting military intervention against the regime. The deployment of anti-aircraft missiles is a precaution against airstrikes that can harm the Syrian regime."
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...264044,00.html

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    Default Russia sends navy vessels to Syria base

    Moscow is sending three large landing ships with marines aboard to a Russian naval facility in the Syrian port of Tartus, Russian news agencies quoted a source in the general staff as saying on Friday.

    The source said that each ship would have up to 120 marines onboard and the ships, currently in the Mediterranean Sea, would arrive in Tartus by the end of this week.
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...264048,00.html

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    Landing ships with marines?

    Sounds like they are planning something.

    I believe they have other ships already in the area.
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    Russia Denies Report of Docking Warships in Syria

    The government of Russia released a report on Friday denying previous reports that Russian warships were scheduled to dock in Syria. The Russian Ministry of Defense said the reports were incorrect.

    Numerous international media outlets reported Friday afternoon that Russia was planning to dock three ships manned by marines to its naval base at Tartus in Syria. According to those reports, each ship has 120 marines. The ships were said to be currently stationed in the Mediterranean.

    According to the Russian Interfax Information Services as quoted by the New York Times and other media outlets the ships were reportedly to deliver supplies to Russian military personnel currently stationed in Syria. There are approximately 30,000 Russian citizens in Syria.
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    They are moving into position to evacuate their people if the walls come crumbling down. 360 troops is not a large body to take a stand, I see them as they are there to protect those leaving.

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    Somethings to keep an eye on.

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    Syria reaches oil deal with ally Russia
    Syria has reached an agreement with ally Russia to secure much-needed fuel as a delegation of ministers sent by President Bashar al-Assad asked Moscow to help alleviate the effects of sanctions on the war-torn country.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8720WC20120803
    This will help Syria keep its economy and defense going.

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    Update:


    Chinese warships start 4-day visit to Turkey


    2012-08-05 18:04:23


    ISTANBUL, Aug. 5 (Xinhua) -- Two Chinese warships, including a guided missile destroyer, started a four-day visit to Turkey after they arrived in Istanbul on Sunday.

    The Chinese warships and navy officers were greeted by Chinese ambassador to Turkey, Gong Xiaosheng, Turkish navy officers, and representatives from Chinese firms in Turkey.

    This is the second time that Chinese navy paid an official visit to Turkey. The first time was in 2002.

    Istanbul is Turkey's biggest city with the Bosphorus Strait bordering Asia and Europe.

    The Chinese navy soldiers will meet with their Turkish counterparts and hold series of programs to strengthen the cooperation between the two countries' navy forces.

    The Chinese warships will also launch a visit day for the Turkish public and deck party which will be attended by Turkish government officers.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/ch..._131762574.htm

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    Default Securing Syria Chemical Weapons May Take 60,000 Troops

    These secret discussions assume that all of Assad's security forces disintegrate, leaving chemical and biological weapons sites in Syria vulnerable to pillaging. The scenario also assumes these sites could not be secured or destroyed solely through aerial bombings, given health and environmental risks.

    A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity to explain the sensitive discussions, said the United States still had no plans to put boots on the ground in Syria. President Barack Obama's administration has, in fact, so far refused to provide lethal support to the rebels fighting to oust Assad's regime and the Pentagon has played down the possibility of implementing a no-fly zone anytime soon.

    "There is not a imminent plan to deploy ground forces. This is, in fact, a worst-case scenario," the official said, adding U.S. forces would likely play a role in such a mission.

    Two diplomatic sources, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said as many as 50,000 or 60,000 ground forces may be needed if officials' worst fears are realized, plus additional support forces.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...87G02420120817

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    Or the Mossad/Navy Seals.

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    Pray U.S. sends aircraft carrier back to Gulf to face Iran, Syria

    Thu, Aug 23 2012

    By Daniel Fineren

    DUBAI (Reuters) -
    The U.S. Navy is cutting short home leave for the crew of one of its aircraft carriers and sending them back to the Middle East next week to counter any threat from Iran, according to the official Navy News Service.

    Defence Secretary Leon Panetta told sailors aboard the USS Stennis in their home port of Seattle on Wednesday they were needed back in the Middle East soon, after approving calls from the U.S. Central Command for Stennis to return to the region.

    "Obviously, Iran is one of those threats," the U.S. military news service quoted Panetta as saying during a send-off event at a military base on the U.S. West Coast.

    "Secondly, it is the turmoil in Syria,"
    he said. "We're obviously following that closely as well."

    The Stennis' departure in January from the Bahrain-based U.S. Fifth Fleet area of operations prompted Iranian army chief Ataollah Salehi to threaten action if it returned, saying Iran was "not in the habit of warning more than once".

    The threats started a war of words between Iran and the United States that spooked oil markets, and fears over possible military confrontation remain high.

    Panetta cited Iran's nuclear program and its threats to oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz as two concerns the Stennis strike group could counter in the U.S. Central Command's area of responsibility, which also includes Syria and Afghanistan.

    U.S. attention on Syria is focused on providing humanitarian aid, monitoring chemical and biological weapon stockpiles, and offering non-lethal assistance to forces opposing President Bashar al-Assad, he said.
    http://www.reuters.com/assets/print?...87M0HY20120823

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