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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppycat View Post
    Ovicula I'm stunned! Seriously disturbing, so glad we know the One who will bring all this to naught.

    I've never been to Brussels, have you? I wonder what the atmosphere of the place is like especially now *the dark is rising* and flexing some muscle.

    Yes, I've been to Brussels and Belgium a long time ago. It was a pretty town with beautiful ancient buildings. We visited amongst others the Atomium, the Manneken Pis and also the Waterloo battle fields. The Belgian people were very nice and the food was very good (but expensive). It were nice holidays.

    Today Brussels is Europe´s capital of crime.

    EU-representatives are favored targets, because of their bountiful filled portemonnaies and their expensive smartphones and computers. Dr. Angelika Niebler, member of the European Parliament, was attacked from behind in 2009 right in the "European quarter". They pushed her to the ground and kicked her, till she let loose her handbag. An ambulance came after 40 minutes, the police didn´t appear at all.

    In Brussels, Muslims are the largest religious group, comprising one-quarter of the city’s population.

    In less than 20 years they’re expected to be the majority.

    See also: 10 Most Dangerous cities in Europe

    First place: Brussels

    http://www.gustey.com/10-most-danger...ties-in-europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovicula View Post
    Yes, I've been to Brussels and Belgium a long time ago. It was a pretty town with beautiful ancient buildings. We visited amongst others the Atomium, the Manneken Pis and also the Waterloo battle fields. The Belgian people were very nice and the food was very good (but expensive). It were nice holidays.

    Today Brussels is Europe´s capital of crime.
    Ovicula: Wasn't a British Executive assassinated in Brussels last week? It was in Belgium I think....
    John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian9 View Post
    Ovicula: Wasn't a British Executive assassinated in Brussels last week? It was in Belgium I think....

    British ExxonMobil oil chief 'assassinated' in Brussels street

    Nicholas Mockford, a British executive for the oil company ExxonMobil has been shot dead in front of his wife in an assassination-style killing in Brussels.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ls-street.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian9 View Post
    I noticed that too--only 3 crosses....4 crescents???? Why not just invite Turkey, Azerbaijain, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco & Egypt into the EU? No need to vote on it....

    Under progress...


    The Euro-Mediterranean Partnership (or Barcelona Process)

    Definition of a common area of peace and stability through the reinforcement of political and security dialogue.

    The European Union stated the intention of this "partnership" is "to strengthen its relations with the countries in the Mashriq and Maghreb regions".

    The Euro-Mediterranean Partnership today comprises 44 members:

    27 European Union member states, and 16 partner countries (Albania, Algeria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Mauritania, Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, the Palestinian territories, Syria, Tunisia and Turkey).

    Its agenda was the following:

    • Security and stability in the Mediterranean;
    • Agreeing on shared values and initializing a long-term process for cooperation in the Mediterranean;
    • Promoting democracy, good governance and human rights;
    • Achieving mutually satisfactory trading terms for the region's partners, the "region" consisting of the countries that participated;
    • Establishing a complementary policy to the United States' presence in the Mediterranean.





    Members of the Union for the Mediterranean; Blue are EU members; Yellow are non-EU members; Yellow-grey is an observer country


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Me...an_Partnership

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    I recall reading that the number 12 was often used as a symbol representing "government" in the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon9602 View Post
    What does the twelve stars stand for?
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    The wheel looking things are Mahatma Gandhi’s spinning wheels. A symbol of Indian independence from the British.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ovicula View Post
    Yes, I've been to Brussels and Belgium a long time ago. It was a pretty town with beautiful ancient buildings. We visited amongst others the Atomium, the Manneken Pis and also the Waterloo battle fields. The Belgian people were very nice and the food was very good (but expensive). It were nice holidays.

    Today Brussels is Europe´s capital of crime.

    EU-representatives are favored targets, because of their bountiful filled portemonnaies and their expensive smartphones and computers. Dr. Angelika Niebler, member of the European Parliament, was attacked from behind in 2009 right in the "European quarter". They pushed her to the ground and kicked her, till she let loose her handbag. An ambulance came after 40 minutes, the police didn´t appear at all.

    In Brussels, Muslims are the largest religious group, comprising one-quarter of the city’s population.

    In less than 20 years they’re expected to be the majority.

    See also: 10 Most Dangerous cities in Europe

    First place: Brussels

    http://www.gustey.com/10-most-danger...ties-in-europe
    So glad you are on the board and the ball Ovicula!! Thankyou for your posts.

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    My pleasure!


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    European poster

    From different people we received a mail with the question why we have a poster with a symbol of comunism ?

    Unfortanatly we have no idear who the owner is of that poster.

    The European project "Europe 4 All" and this website have nothing to do with this campaign / poster.

    http://www.integration-plaza.eu/inde...emid=4&lang=en




    European Commission to take down poster with hammer and sickle following Lithuanian outcry


    Published: 22 october 2012


    European Commission (EC) officials have promised to Lithuanian diplomats to remove a poster hanging in the EC building in Brussels which sports the Communist hammer and sickle.



    "In the wake of our probe, the European Commission notified us there had been a poster competition, which was co-financed by the commission.

    EC officials promised us it would be taken down," Arūnas Vinčiūnas, ambassador-at-large at Lithuania's permanent mission at the European Union (EU), told BNS on Monday.

    In his words, the poster was hanging in the main offices of the EC, Berlaymont. A photograph published in the British media last week reveals that the hammer and sickle was palced next to Christian, Islamic, Judaic and other religious symbols, which formed a five-pointed star.

    "I see one interesting thing. If the poster is hanging and it looks like a big five-pointed star from a distance, it raises no concern. And if one comes closer and starts looking into details, then some concern might arise. It's just very interesting psychologically and politically. The large five-pointed start itself seems to have not raised any concern," Lithuanian MEP and former head of state, Vytautas Landsbergis, told BNS on Monday.

    His fellow MEP Radvilė Morkūnaitė-Mikulėnienė told BNS the European Commission should have paid more attention, and the incident itself demonstrated that Europe still lacked knowledge of Eastern European history.

    "Such posters with such symbols only add to the position that Communist crimes need to be evaluated, and Europe needs to learn more about what has been happening in that part of Europe for 50 years, and that not everyone entered a new stage in 1945 as others were occupied for long decades. The main problem is the lack of knowledge of history. I wouldn’t want to believe that it’s provocation or some evil things," the MEP said.

    "The European Commission knows that the symbol – the hammer and sickle – is banned in some EU member states and should pay more attention," she added.

    Another Lithuanian MEP, Leonidas Donskis, representing Lithuania's Liberal Movement, said the poster was unacceptable and insulting to Eastern Europe.

    "In this case, we need patience and we need to tell them that it's improper and unacceptable. Other signs [in the poster] are real almost thousand-year-old religious symbols. The hammer and sickle is a modern sign. Secondly, it is related to a violence-based ideology and not atheistic belief. Thirdly, it symbolizes pain of Central and Eastern Europe. To do such things means to ignore a tragic experience of a large part of Europe," Donskis told BNS. "We need to say very patiently that it's improper, that should not happen and that such things do not improve Europe's image. It’s something between ignorance, total ignorance, stupidity, and a willful gesture," he said.

    Meanwhile Lithuania's Ministry of Foreign Affairs refused to comment.

    EC officials promise to look into the details of appearance of the poster.

    "The European Commission has condemned crimes of totalitarian regimes. The European Commission's Europe for Citizens Programme funds projects of commemoration of victims of Nazism and Stalinism. The European Commission did not publish the poster," Giedrius Sudikas of the European Commission Representation in Lithuania told BNS.

    Meanwhile British MEP Daniel Hannan published a photo of the poster in his blog on the Daily Telegraph website on Friday, showing the hammer and sickle alongside symbols of Christianity, Judaism, and other religions. They form a five-pointed start above slogan "We can all share the same start. EUROPE4ALL."

    “For three generations, the badge of the Soviet revolution meant poverty, slavery, torture and death,” he wrote in the Telegraph.

    “It adorned the caps of the chekas who came in the night. It opened and closed the propaganda films which hid the famines. It advertised the people’s courts where victims of purges and show-trials were condemned. It fluttered over the re-education camps and the gulags. For hundreds of millions of Europeans, it was a symbol of foreign occupation,” Hannan continued.

    The Lithuanian Penal Code stipulates a prison term of up to two years for the denial or gross minimization or public approval of crimes committed by the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. A Lithuanian law prohibits distribution and demonstration of Nazi and Soviet symbols. Offenders face a fine of LTL 500-1,000 (EUR 145-289).

    Those denying Nazi and Communist crimes also face punishment in the Czech Republic, Poland, and Hungary.

    The European Commission said in December 2010 it saw no pre-conditions for initiating a document introducing a pan-European ban on denial or gross minimization of Soviet and Nazi crimes.

    Skaitykite daugiau: http://www.15min.lt/en/article/world...#ixzz2BrT8WRJ5



    Europe4All



    Charter of principles for another Europe



    For Another World

    For Peace and Security

    For A Europe Against Discrimination

    For A Democratic Europe

    For Socio-Economic Rights

    For Public Services

    For A Sustainable Environment




    Project for a


    Charter of Principles for Another Europe



    Introduction


    Another Europe is possible: this is the horizon created by the anti-neoliberal social movements, creating a new stage in constructing a Europe of peoples.


    The French and Dutch “No” to the “Treaty Adopting a European Constitution” revealed the failure of European neoliberal construction, anti-democratic and patriarchal, resulting in trade-offs between States without the peoples' intervention. The elites claimed to be exercising a power invested in them, but which had not been conferred on them. The democratic deficit that has characterized the current construction of Europe has to be filled.

    European mobilizations during the first years ofthe 21st century against the war, neoliberalism, sexism and racism, against the destruction of democratic and social rights and the privatization of public services and demanding the guarantee of universal rights, have opened the way to elaborating a project of a “Charter of Principles for Another Europe”, which we wish to submit for public discussion.

    The Principles of Another Europe are all equally important and have as their basis:

    ∙ equal dignity between persons and the inviolability of each person to be respected by all institutions;

    ∙ peace, freedom, justice and security as individual and collective assets;

    ∙ equality between all, first and foremost, the parity between men and women, by guaranteeing difference and diversities;

    ∙ democracy ensuring equal representation and participation;

    ∙ European citizenship based on place of residence;

    ∙ Social rights, the right to work and rights at work, the only solution in order to eliminate poverty, different forms of exclusion, and impoverishment;

    ∙ A socially equitable economy, based on solidarity, sustainable life, and democracy

    ∙ Peoples' freedom and citizen’ freedom.

    Europe is not the same as the European Union: the process of enlargement by means of neoliberal policies is provoking in the east, but also in the west, unemployment, poverty, exclusion and is nourishing different forms of chauvinism.

    The construction of the European Communities and of the European Union has has been characterized by the weight assigned to governments, to an unelected authority, the central role of the market-place, the right to open competition and to transnational corporations, around which economic and social relations, as well as the institutions themselves, have been structured. From now on we are faced with an ”economic constitution” – the laws of the market-place are at the core of Treaties, prevail over democratic political decisions – in clear opposition to the founding principles of the constitutional Charters of the 20th century.

    On the contrary, one must affirm the priority of fundamental social rights and of political and cultural rights, which require another economy to realise commonly-shared natural assets – land, water, air, energy – and public services. There has to be a recommitment to a vast process of social re-appropriation – new forms of social property - in order to satisfy all the social needs and permit a democratic development that can be ecologically sustained.

    The Europe that we want is founded on the primacy of the rights of all and on the fundamental principle of direct participation by the citizens in public and collective decision-making. Europe must be a union of peoples freely associated together, grounded in constitutional democracy and a public space stretching beyond national borders, characterized by democracy at every level.


    http://www.europe4all.org/english/pr...tent/about.php

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    Not sure if this is a case of trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, or some journo just trying to 'stir' the elites who claim to be exercising a power not conferred upon them.

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    Maybe they could make it more palatable with a catchy acronymn. Let's see....Socialist European Welfare Economic Region (SEWER).

    No, wait: Greater Association of Regimented Boroughs Approaching a Grander Europe (GARBAGE).

    OK, how about: Voluntary Organization of Markets In Transition (VOMIT).

    Never mind. Can't Rename Under Duress - hey, that's it! CRUD!

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    [QUOTE=Trance;2314871]The 'global religion' will teach that Jesus is only one way to Heaven and everybody is their own god, and can get to Heaven on their own.

    Not just the EU promoting a global religion - it's a belief rife in the UK mainstream churches. No need to wait for it to be introduced - it's already happening and not outside of the supposed Christian church but inside. Coming soon - The Great Apostasy in your area.
    The eternal God is your dwelling place, and underneath are the everlasting arms. (Deu 33:27a)

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    This is from the World Parliament site, one of a number of bodies lobbying for world parliament in the form of a Manifesto for Global Democracy and Constitution for the Federation of Earth.

    Here's what they call their 'Spiritual Liaisons'.



    http://worldparliament-gov.org/spiritual-liaisons

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    Quote Originally Posted by $teve View Post
    This is from the World Parliament site, one of a number of bodies lobbying for world parliament in the form of a Manifesto for Global Democracy and Constitution for the Federation of Earth.

    Here's what they call their 'Spiritual Liaisons'.



    http://worldparliament-gov.org/spiritual-liaisons

    Will follow on the heels of the rapture no doubt.
    Come Lord Jesus and bring us home soon!

    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast."
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    It would appear that satan has his one world government and one world religion all organised and ready to go.

    He is probably wondering why the (true) church is still here and impatient for us to get off the planet so he can get his evil schemes underway.

    (I'm impatient, too....but not for that reason!)
    Hey, Dad......ARE WE THERE YET?

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    Is one of those icons of the hand and dot an unintended, subliminal miscue of the right hand and mark of Revelation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Is one of those icons of the hand and dot an unintended, subliminal miscue of the right hand and mark of Revelation?

    No, it is the symbol of Jainism, an Indian religion with historical roots in Hinduism, that emphasizes complete non-violence and asceticism.

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