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    Quote Originally Posted by icebear View Post
    yep
    and do what? federalize them.....cause they aren't gonna be alllowed to do anything without the gov. say so.

    more than likely tsa/ dhs will be given control....not that that is a good thing

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    No. The shooter will just the armed guard. It will cost the school districts too much money and most will only be able to afford it for awhile. I am related to a administrator and former elementary teacher. What they need is a undisclosed teacher/principal (if they know the principals have it, they will just go after them first) to have a hidden gun that nobody knows who or where it is for the emergency. Several people. Some teachers can also have taser guns.
    The whole school area also needs to be gated where traffic only goes in one area and out.

    I think this is a better scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1forChrist View Post
    No. The shooter will just the armed guard. It will cost the school districts too much money and most will only be able to afford it for awhile. I am related to a administrator and former elementary teacher. What they need is a undisclosed teacher/principal (if they know the principals have it, they will just go after them first) to have a hidden gun that nobody knows who or where it is for the emergency. Several people. Some teachers can also have taser guns.
    The whole school area also needs to be gated where traffic only goes in one area and out.

    I think this is a better scenario.
    Here is a story to read that goes along with that story .They are the first line of defense, not the the police or sheriff that is so many minutes away http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...ate&id=8926654
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    The movie theater had secure doors but someone left them open.

    The school had a secure gate but they allowed the shooter to just go throug no questions asked. They didn't check to see if his mother was in the office and expecting a visitor.

    Lack of existing security caused the deaths of those people. Adding armed security guards? Not sure if this will deter all crazed up totally armed to the back teeth shooters?

    Did anyone notice China has had a spate of killings in schools and child minding centers. The killers used knives and in one recent incident a person drove a vehicle into a group of school students. Seems there a many crazies out there targetting kids for some reason.

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    The school didn't let the shooter in he shot his way in that is when the principal went to see what was going on when those first shots were fired and got herself killed. The door won't keep someone bent on shooting up the place out. I do believe if they know someone can shoot back it may stop them for a second but if they intend to die anyway like this young man did we need guards outside before they enter shooting. Hopefully frisking people before they enter or have a metal detector at hand so we know the people are OK to be allowed to enter. It seems a shame this has to be but our children are important enough to keep safe at all times.

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    At the K-4 schools I've worked in, there are two times that would be very hard to police. One is 3:00--many parents come in to pick up their students, especially the little ones. It is quite chaotic. Even if you keep all the doors locked except the front, there are crowds in the halls, plus more at all the exits waiting, and there would be no way to monitor that many adults. Kids are often picked up by different adults--maybe sometimes real parents, or step-parents, or grandparents, or babysitters--hard to keep track of who's who. Sometimes they have a parent or step-parent that is not legally allowed to take them, but again this is hard to monitor, especially when there is a sub.

    The other time is at assemblies, when parents and relatives come. The halls are packed with adults before and after. It would be almost impossible to make certain things were safe. Armed guards might sound good, but realistically I'm not sure they are the answer.

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    I just found this story on armed guards being sent to LA, and Phoenix. http://news.yahoo.com/armed-guards-s...opstories.html
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    Why is anyone let in the school when they are picked up at night? I never was allowed in my children's school when I went to pick them up I picked them up outside and that was years ago since my youngest are now 40 (twins). I have picked up my grandchildren when they were sick but I had to be let in and go right to the office and show ID before I could pick them up but that wasn't at the end of the school day. When ever I picked them up from school it is outside the school. I have never heard of parents being allowed to disrupt the hallways in the school at the end of the day no matter what age the children were. I certainly think a school should be able to fix the problem you have at your school Jan51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raml View Post
    Why is anyone let in the school when they are picked up at night? I never was allowed in my children's school when I went to pick them up I picked them up outside and that was years ago since my youngest are now 40 (twins). I have picked up my grandchildren when they were sick but I had to be let in and go right to the office and show ID before I could pick them up but that wasn't at the end of the school day. When ever I picked them up from school it is outside the school. I have never heard of parents being allowed to disrupt the hallways in the school at the end of the day no matter what age the children were. I certainly think a school should be able to fix the problem you have at your school Jan51.
    There's no way that what is happening at Jan51's schools should be happening. The parents should not be allowed into the school at all. The way it is done here is that if you are picking up your child they have to have a note from home. Then at the end of the day all "car riders" are escorted to one exit near the parking lot where the parents line up in their cars (there are several teachers out there directing traffic). Then each child is escorted to their vehicle as it pulls up after visual identification. It works quick, orderly, and safely for the children.

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    Ahh school daze. I remember the 45 minute ride to school..........

    and the most hazardous thing was the resonance caused by syncronized stomping to: We Will Rock You....


    So who is going to follow each and every bus along its route?

    Think of all the schools which now have to be redesigned - or built anew.... taxes there will be.


    As Homeschoolers I was surprised, yet thankful for the procedures in place at our local schools when contact was required (testing, evaluations, etc...)
    You had to enter at a specific door, sign in, and wait at a specific place. I believe the school had at least a single guard, and the police dropped by during patrols.

    No doubt should an emergency arise, we'd have a company of parents available within 60 seconds. And that is a rural school.

    Reading is well known for metal dectors, locker searches, police patrols and plenty of other mechanics in an area where within blocks, shootings take place every day.
    But something I saw at one of the elementary schools was most impressive:

    Parents. They were everywhere. On corners - with the crossing guards. Along streets.
    In the front yards. And they talked to each other and took charge of little ones as they passed
    through their security zone.

    I remember as a kid, even back then, we had those 'watcher moms', and you know, you appreciated them.



    Perhaps this may be a mechanic God is orchestrating to bring people together. Our passion for protecting children is so evident - especially on several sides of the gun debate.
    We want our kids protected, we want to protect them. Even some of the most violent criminals detest those who harm children.

    IMHO, the most effective method is presence. Being there. Maybe alot more parents will start carving out more of their lives for their kids.
    Maybe socitey will draw back from the self-made-person (the kind that have daytimers to schedule going to the bathroom).
    Maybe people will stop chasing dollars and prestige,

    and instead invest in someting with eternal value: A human soul.

    Maybe.
    Maybe we will understand a little better, His love for us.
    It's ALL about Jesus. The Son of God - Emanuel - The Mighty God - Our Salvation.

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    That's interesting that at other schools, things are much different than what I have seen. Yes, that could be changed with better policies. But the other thing I've thought about is recess. Even if you can keep bad guys out of the school building, how could you protect kids on the exposed playground from a potential shooter?

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    You can't and there is the problem.

    Criminals have transferred the fear. From the perps fearing punishment to the victims afraid to even go outside.
    And with laws that only effect the law abiding, victims have little recourse. On top of that the courts often fail in punishing those who threaten, steal, and murder.

    There is little you can to about a psycho or organised assault. They will appear, do their horror, and typically die - or become a burden on society for 80 years.

    But when someone cracks or temporarly looses it, well their judgement is impared already.
    A first responder, some obsticles - barriers can discourage such a person or at least limit the damage they can do.

    Real punishment, fear of the law, that is supposed to be a terror to evil.

    And ultimately our accountibility to God. The fear that produces wisdom.

    But these deterrants have been expunged. Evil no longer fears, and so it grows.
    And combined with cunning, it takes over.



    Alas satan has ebbed away each level of foundation so that society is ready to topple. A society so weakened and fearful, it will accept anything just to live in peace.
    A false peace that brings destruction.
    It's ALL about Jesus. The Son of God - Emanuel - The Mighty God - Our Salvation.

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