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    Default Putin vows to defend Christianity worldwide

    http://global.christianpost.com/news...rldwide-69002/

    RT online reported that Metropolitan Hilarion, foreign relation chief of the Russian Orthodox Church presented evidence and statistics that stated, "Every five minutes one Christian was dying for his or her faith in some part of the word."

    Christians face persecution in many nations; from church demolition in Afghanistan and bombings of churches in Iraq, to the violence against Christians taking place in rebellious towns in Syria.

    After delivering the facts, Metropolitan Hilarion asked Putin to make protection and defense of Christianity around the globe a major part of his foreign policy.

    And, as reported by Interfax, Putin replied, "You needn't have any doubt that that's the way it will be," assuring Hilarion that Russian foreign policy would defend Christians from persecution abroad.

    Putin's recent actions seem to confirm his promise. Last week, Putin vetoed a U.N. motion calling for Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad to step down. Syrian Christians received this as good news. Assad is of the Alawite sect of Islam. Alawites and Christians are both religious minorities in Syria. Syrian Christians feel that sharing this minority status means Assad will provide them with protection. A Syrian Christian woman even told The Global Post, "Thank God for Russia. Without Russia we are doomed."

    Putin has long been a supporter of Christianity and Christian values within Russia. He has called for the Church to play a larger role in citizens' social lives, better religion classes in schools, and television programs emphasizing religious values.


    Bravo Vladimir! I'm so proud to be a Russian, I salute you for standing up for christians worldwide, especially in Syria where our brothers are beheaded and killed daily.

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    Hi Fibonacci,

    Are you a Russian soldier assigned to a post within the U.S. military?
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    Default God bless Vladimir Putin!!

    I pray he's saved if he's not already; " Mr. Putin: we pray you'll be joining us in the air soon although you'd probably make a good Prince of Gog, seeing you like grandiosity".......
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    As someone who knows several Christians who live in Russia right now, I need to warn you that when Putin defends "Christianity" he is talking solely about Russian Orthodox Christianity - at least when it comes to Russia.

    People who belong to other denominations in Russia are considered "cults" and have fewer rights, and could lose their church at any time depending on what the government wants to do. I'm not talking about what we would consider cults; I'm talking about regular Bible-believing churches.

    Putin has been running a big Dezinformatsia, or Disinformation, campaign recently: talking to America about freedom of speech and freedom of the press, and sounding like a pro-capitalist. Don't be fooled. People who dare run against Putin or his allies wind up blackmailed into silence or dead; and reporters who dare report on anything too dangerous wind up dead.

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    Good points, Reason&Hope.

    The OP article mentioned a few times "Syrian Christians" in particular. The vast majority of them are Greek Orthodox variations, as is true in most of the Middle East Muslim "hotspots."

    Certainly Putin is referring to them, but even so, I'm not buying his altruistic statements of protection. And one would think he'd start with his own country first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Timbers View Post
    Hi Fibonacci,

    Are you a Russian soldier assigned to a post within the U.S. military?
    LOL! Yeah....interesting that'd he'd post like this. I seem to recall him saying he was in the US Military, but always comes to the defense of the Ruskies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason&Hope View Post
    As someone who knows several Christians who live in Russia right now, I need to warn you that when Putin defends "Christianity" he is talking solely about Russian Orthodox Christianity - at least when it comes to Russia.

    People who belong to other denominations in Russia are considered "cults" and have fewer rights, and could lose their church at any time depending on what the government wants to do. I'm not talking about what we would consider cults; I'm talking about regular Bible-believing churches.

    Putin has been running a big Dezinformatsia, or Disinformation, campaign recently: talking to America about freedom of speech and freedom of the press, and sounding like a pro-capitalist. Don't be fooled. People who dare run against Putin or his allies wind up blackmailed into silence or dead; and reporters who dare report on anything too dangerous wind up dead.
    I agree...everything about the man screams bully/mafia. The man has even more pride than even our own current leader in my opinion. The body trail this KGB'er has left behind him is vast and wide.
    John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

    John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.

    Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian9 View Post
    LOL! Yeah....interesting that'd he'd post like this. I seem to recall him saying he was in the US Military, but always comes to the defense of the Ruskies.
    You know the country's in big trouble when the Russian leader is the "defender of Christian faith" while the US leader counts a day wasted when he doesn't talk up homosexuality and abortion.

    You know the country's in trouble when the US is exposed to have developed the most disturbing big brother spy network to snoop on anyone anywhere in the world with a cellphone or an Internet connection; about the true intent of which the head of the NSA brazenly lied to Congress, on camera.

    You know the country's in trouble when the nations of the world start looking towards Russia to protect them from US bullying, gaging by the worldwide reaction to Bolivian President Morales' plan being forced down in the Vienna airport.

    Perhaps a little less disdain for the "Ruskies" might help us all here.

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    Hogwash! I have seen the works of communism and socialism within America and I need a Tums. Thank you Liberation theologists (liberal traitors) for burning the Constitution and blowing the ashes in our children's eyes---17 trillion offenses and another 1 million innocent babies sacrificed this year for their god named lucifer. Putin, don't make me cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SumSam View Post
    You know the country's in big trouble when the Russian leader is the "defender of Christian faith" while the US leader counts a day wasted when he doesn't talk up homosexuality and abortion.

    You know the country's in trouble when the US is exposed to have developed the most disturbing big brother spy network to snoop on anyone anywhere in the world with a cellphone or an Internet connection; about the true intent of which the head of the NSA brazenly lied to Congress, on camera.

    You know the country's in trouble when the nations of the world start looking towards Russia to protect them from US bullying, gaging by the worldwide reaction to Bolivian President Morales' plan being forced down in the Vienna airport.

    Perhaps a little less disdain for the "Ruskies" might help us all here.

    If you'd look at Fibonacci's posting history you'd notice he's always defending Russia no matter what--yet he also claimed he was in the US Military. That's what I was referring to. Call it disdain if you want...there's plenty of it also for America if you go to the Politics forum
    John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

    John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.

    Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

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    DS and I are currently studing Russian history - Revolution to WWII.

    I can help but feel for the Russian people. Our Revolution happened at an opportune time, with at least a strong handful of god-fearing men in charge.
    God blessed US.

    The Russians tried their own revolution, but had it snatched away throught lies and murder and run over by godless communism.

    There is a sense of fear for US as Russians see the same process they endured chipping away at the freedom we have here.
    And many here are oblivious to it.



    Pray for Fibonacci. He has been through much and will likely face many more trials of his faith. Joining the military may not have been the best option, but the committment must be met.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    DS and I are currently studing Russian history - Reveloution to WWII.

    I can help but feel for the Russian people. Our Revolution happened at an opportune time, with at least a strong handful of god-fearing men in charge.
    God blessed US.

    The Russians tried their own revolution, but had it snatched away throught lies and murder and run over by godless communism.

    There is a sense of fear for US as Russians see the same process they endured chipping away at the freedom we have here.
    And many here are oblivious to it.



    Pray for Fibonacci. He has been through much and will likely face many more trials of his faith. Joining the military may not have been the best option, but the committment must be met.
    Totally agree Wally. I have the pleasure of knowing a young woman from Ukraine who's father was thrown in solitary by the Reds for being an unapologetic Pastor preaching in Jesus's name--for 15 years! I think there's coming a day where we may be facing the same thing. Most Americans are totally self-absorbed, and as you point out, oblivious to what is going on here. The bread & circuses (Smartphones/EBT cards/Television) have certainly distracted most.
    John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

    John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.

    Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian9 View Post
    If you'd look at Fibonacci's posting history you'd notice he's always defending Russia no matter what--yet he also claimed he was in the US Military. That's what I was referring to. Call it disdain if you want...there's plenty of it also for America if you go to the Politics forum
    I am in the US Military, I'm stationed on the USS Harry S Truman which is going on a 9 month deployment in about a week, I'm on leave right now. Yes I defend Russia because that is my homeland, and I feel we are unfairly treated on this forum. Why can't you put aside those archaic cold war sentiments and realize that there is a new Russia. So far everything Putin has done was for the good of the Russian people. He is a hard liner against radical islamic elements in the dagestan region, he is very supportive of the Orthodox church, he is trying to secure Russia's energy future, what is wrong with what he is doing? Say what you will about his KGB past , look at the plank in your own eye, Obama is a hundred times worse... atleast Putin is not a liar, he calls it how it is. Forgive my patriotism, I used to love this country and I used to love what is stood for but look at it now...just look at what you have become...even whistleblowers like Snowden are hunted just because they are against your government spying on average citizens. Look at yourself first before you speak about russia, you have less and less freedoms by the day, and its just going to get worse. Rant over, I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can. And oh yeah, its possible to love Russia and still be Christian, or is it not?

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    Plank in our eye? When do you see people on this board defending Obama's and this administration's policies? You don't.

    Wondering why you're in the US military if, by your own admission, you don't love this country - in fact, you appear to have contempt for the US.

    Btw, please see posting rule #23.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iSong6:3 View Post
    Plank in our eye? When do you see people on this board defending Obama's and this administration's policies? You don't.

    Wondering why you're in the US military if, by your own admission, you don't love this country - in fact, you appear to have contempt for it.
    I love some aspects of this country, such as nature. For the most part the people are good too, mostly Christians in the South, but due to liberals which are running this country they make it really hard to love. I'm sure you understand. I would really love for the US to return to the good old days of freedom , but I'm afraid its too late to go back now, it has been ordained by God for this nation to fall. Russia will fall too one day, in fact everyone will fall save for Israel. Like the Lord said about raising up rulers and putting them down, each has his purpose for the appropriate time in history. As for the reason why I'm in the military, I have a dream of owning a sailboat and making it my home, and sailing it around central america and the carribean. I don't have money for college and I couldn't find a decent job, so that was my only option. I'm suffering now but its all for the good, one day I'll have my freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fibonacci View Post
    I love some aspects of this country, such as nature. For the most part the people are good too, mostly Christians in the South, but due to liberals which are running this country they make it really hard to love. I'm sure you understand. I would really love for the US to return to the good old days of freedom , but I'm afraid its too late to go back now, it has been ordained by God for this nation to fall. Russia will fall too one day, in fact everyone will fall save for Israel. Like the Lord said about raising up rulers and putting them down, each has his purpose for the appropriate time in history.
    I agree with you here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iSong6:3 View Post
    I agree with you here.
    The reason why I'm in the US military is strictly for money's sake, and for the GI Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fibonacci View Post
    The reason why I'm in the US military is strictly for money's sake, and for the GI Bill.
    Yes, I remember that but, considering the circumstances, didn't want to embarrass you here. I guess I can appreciate your honesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fibonacci View Post
    The reason why I'm in the US military is strictly for money's sake, and for the GI Bill.
    How long have you lived in America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fibonacci View Post
    The reason why I'm in the US military is strictly for money's sake, and for the GI Bill.


    Remember the swearing in ceremony? Where you said, "I XXXXX do solemnly swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic, and to bare true faith and allegiance to the same and. That I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the officers appointed over me according to regulations and the uniform code of military justice, so help me God." That was supposed to mean something.

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