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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkyWay View Post



    Me too. I'm so weary of the left and the devil. I can hardly stand to read the news these days. I didn't think things would escalate so quickly after January 20th. I long for heaven and goodness and righteousness lately. So much.
    I totally agree about longing for Heaven and eternal Spendor, Beauty, and Grace of our Home with God.


    I dont see how anyone could want someone who declares war on our country over here. I saw the video of the marine speaking and it was bone chilling. We have a first hand account of how these people act when you disagree with them and they arent even combatants, just regular citizens.. Im still very thankful for President Trump. At least he realizes the dangers we face globally unlike the previous administration and is trying to keep our Homeland safe even though he has liberal lunacy opposing him at every turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkyWay View Post
    Considering what Europe's dealing with, vetting is a good thing. But my lefty "Christian" friends/family are making it sound like I should feel ashamed for not being against it. It's really been depressing the last few days.
    This is the heart of the issue; it's not a ban, it's a temporary halt while proper vetting measures are brought in. There is nothing wrong or inappropriate about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anddra View Post
    This is the heart of the issue; ...
    There is nothing wrong or inappropriate about it.
    And the language of both The Constitution and the Statute that gives Trump the authority are so plain a 5th grader would understand them.

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    This liberal judge is doing this for spite against Trump. Would the judge have given the same ruling had it been HRC (i know she would have never given such an order but just supposing) trying to vet people from those Anti American areas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRex2 View Post
    And the language of both The Constitution and the Statute that gives Trump the authority are so plain a 5th grader would understand them.

    Unfortunately we've seen that what the Constitution and the law says doesn't matter to many judges. They can interpret the Constitution and the law in any way they please. Essentially the courts have moved from interpreting the law to making the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALS6347 View Post
    Unfortunately we've seen that what the Constitution and the law says doesn't matter to many judges. They can interpret the Constitution and the law in any way they please. Essentially the courts have moved from interpreting the law to making the law.
    Seems like many judges, along with so many politicians, have put the plans of the globalist agenda above our Constitution and rule accordingly. Because of that, it's never a sure thing that a contrary ruling will be overturned. Once we get another justice on the Supreme Court, and assuming he/she does turn out to be a Constitutionalist, we can expect most of those insane rulings to be overturned once they reach the top... but it takes time for the cases to get there and that time can/will delay much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Timbers View Post
    Seems like many judges, along with so many politicians, have put the plans of the globalist agenda above our Constitution and rule accordingly. Because of that, it's never a sure thing that a contrary ruling will be overturned. Once we get another justice on the Supreme Court, and assuming he/she does turn out to be a Constitutionalist, we can expect most of those insane rulings to be overturned once they reach the top... but it takes time for the cases to get there and that time can/will delay much.
    Well ya. Now that the terrorist have a temporary open window I'm sure they are running to get here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Timbers View Post
    Seems like many judges, along with so many politicians, have put the plans of the globalist agenda above our Constitution and rule accordingly. Because of that, it's never a sure thing that a contrary ruling will be overturned. Once we get another justice on the Supreme Court, and assuming he/she does turn out to be a Constitutionalist, we can expect most of those insane rulings to be overturned once they reach the top... but it takes time for the cases to get there and that time can/will delay much.
    So is there no chance it can be overturned before it gets to the SC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorrowedTime View Post
    Well ya. Now that the terrorist have a temporary open window I'm sure they are running to get here.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkyWay View Post
    So is there no chance it can be overturned before it gets to the SC?

    A friend told me that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is infamous for being extremely liberal. They will likely uphold the lower court order.

    This will probably go to the US Supreme Court. The problem is that until if and when Neil Gorsuch is confirmed there are an equal number of conservatives and liberals on the court and Judge Roberts sometimes sides with the liberals. In the case of a tie the ruling of the lower court stands.

    So, it doesn't look too good for the Trump administration and for our country.

    This is frustrating. Trump was elected by the American people to protect our nation but the courts have tied his hands.

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    As I understand the US Constitution and Federal Law, the President's Executive Action restricting immigration from countries in the interest of defending the US citizens is perfectly legal. When the President sees a Clear and Present Danger, he is compelled to act any way he sees fit to protect the nation - no matter how unpopular it may be with the masses of liberal complainers, it is legal. The Federal Judge who placed the stay against execution of the Ban is plainly outside Federal Law on this point. Judicial activists are often so. But, I am sure the President's Executive Action will prevail in the courts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Timbers View Post
    Seems like many judges, along with so many politicians, have put the plans of the globalist agenda above our Constitution and rule accordingly. Because of that, it's never a sure thing that a contrary ruling will be overturned. Once we get another justice on the Supreme Court, and assuming he/she does turn out to be a Constitutionalist, we can expect most of those insane rulings to be overturned once they reach the top... but it takes time for the cases to get there and that time can/will delay much.

    Yep. Lots and lots of time. Each and every minute, hour, day... just think of how many are pouring into our country. Most likely, more than would have been before Trump signed the executive order. Because now that he has, and it has been halted, those with intent to invade, kill, cause chaos, and take over know that this is a temporary window and so they need to get here while they can. At any moment, that window could close.

    No matter what happens, even if the halt on Trump's order would have been appealed today, it's already too late. There are now hundreds of thousands here and ready to destroy America who were not here this time last week.

    In the meantime, rioters keep rioting. If a person doesn't agree with them, that person's life is in danger. Even people who do agree with them are in danger as from what I've seen these terrorists don't take any time to ask questions. It's violence for the sake of violence. People pulled from cars and beat within an inch of their life. A person being interviewed viciously attacked with bear spray for no reason whatsoever. Mobs of people with nothing but evil on their minds destroying everything in their path. Bashing in windows and walls. Setting fires. They destroyed the Martin Luther King Jr. student union building!?!? They destroyed Starbucks who is on "their side", is liberal as they are and has promised to hire 10,000 refugees. Starbucks who is just as anti-Trump as they are. Banks, ATM Machines, businesses, just a path of destruction and people lying injured after being half beat to death.

    Then we've got MSM who applauds this, condones this, encourages more of it.

    Story after story after story. Completely reprehensible, immoral, DISGUSTING. Here is but one of thousands: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...uspends-video/. A little boy attacked by his peers for wearing a hat that says "Make America Great Again". The final result... the little boy who was attacked is the one who was suspended by the school.

    It's really nothing though. Because there is instance after instance after instance. Conservative groups in San Francisco and other cities are now meeting in secret because they are afraid for their lives. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...-their-safety/

    Who knows what filth we will see at the Superbowl today. From both those involved in the festivities and those who are not and have just come to protest, oops, I mean riot. Can't wait to see the Satanic Halftime show of which Nasty Gaga is the featured performer. Her, a swarm of drones, and satan worshippers. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...ight-show.html

    I'm with the person who said that they want to go HOME. We are waiting Jesus. We are ready. Please come and take us away from all this chaos and evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiffanybw View Post
    Yep. Lots and lots of time. Each and every minute, hour, day... just think of how many are pouring into our country. Most likely, more than would have been before Trump signed the executive order. Because now that he has, and it has been halted, those with intent to invade, kill, cause chaos, and take over know that this is a temporary window and so they need to get here while they can. At any moment, that window could close.

    No matter what happens, even if the halt on Trump's order would have been appealed today, it's already too late. There are now hundreds of thousands here and ready to destroy America who were not here this time last week.

    In the meantime, rioters keep rioting. If a person doesn't agree with them, that person's life is in danger. Even people who do agree with them are in danger as from what I've seen these terrorists don't take any time to ask questions. It's violence for the sake of violence. People pulled from cars and beat within an inch of their life. A person being interviewed viciously attacked with bear spray for no reason whatsoever. Mobs of people with nothing but evil on their minds destroying everything in their path. Bashing in windows and walls. Setting fires. They destroyed the Martin Luther King Jr. student union building!?!? They destroyed Starbucks who is on "their side", is liberal as they are and has promised to hire 10,000 refugees. Starbucks who is just as anti-Trump as they are. Banks, ATM Machines, businesses, just a path of destruction and people lying injured after being half beat to death.

    Then we've got MSM who applauds this, condones this, encourages more of it.

    Story after story after story. Completely reprehensible, immoral, DISGUSTING. Here is but one of thousands: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...uspends-video/. A little boy attacked by his peers for wearing a hat that says "Make America Great Again". The final result... the little boy who was attacked is the one who was suspended by the school.

    It's really nothing though. Because there is instance after instance after instance. Conservative groups in San Francisco and other cities are now meeting in secret because they are afraid for their lives. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...-their-safety/

    Who knows what filth we will see at the Superbowl today. From both those involved in the festivities and those who are not and have just come to protest, oops, I mean riot. Can't wait to see the Satanic Halftime show of which Nasty Gaga is the featured performer. Her, a swarm of drones, and satan worshippers. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...ight-show.html

    I'm with the person who said that they want to go HOME. We are waiting Jesus. We are ready. Please come and take us away from all this chaos and evil.
    . As usual, you are spot on Tiffany! Theres no way Trump is going to be able to get anything done with the loony left around. I also agree with all who said that the terrorists are going to come over here as fast as they can since there is an open window of time.

    Brothers and Sisters, pray for God, our Redeemer to deliver us soon. Now would be as good a time as any, please God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherrid View Post
    . As usual, you are spot on Tiffany! Theres no way Trump is going to be able to get anything done with the loony left around. I also agree with all who said that the terrorists are going to come over here as fast as they can since there is an open window of time.

    Brothers and Sisters, pray for God, our Redeemer to deliver us soon. Now would be as good a time as any, please God.

    for you Sister!

    And you are right, the best thing for us to do is stay in constant prayer. And keep watch for as long as we are here, then speak TRUTH so that other's might be saved. One thing about all of this chaos and overt evil, so many people are waking up. They are waking up to the world, to the agenda of globalists and TPTB. People are no longer asleep, are very aware of the evil all around us. Because of Trump's win, we are headed towards out and out civil war. (Edit to clarify: Trump's win is a GOOD thing! If it would have been Hildabeast we would've been full steam ahead towards OWG, after birth abortion, kindness to the elderly by killing them before they get too old, etcetera, etcetera. And there would have been ZERO dissent.)

    For whatever reason, reasons that only God Knows, He has so far decided to leave us here. I think that it might be so that we can further wake people up. As they are all aware now of the evil, and they know it goes beyond "man", that it is spiritual in nature. What they don't know, is the truth that is Jesus Christ. And that what is going on all around us, it is not due to mankind, to UFO's, to climate change, to ghosts, to the paranormal. People are looking for answers to why all of this hate and chaos, and it leaves them ripe and wanting for a "savior".

    We here know that "savior" is going to be the anti-Christ, and so many... all the rioters, terrorists, liberal idiots... all going to fall for it. But also "conservatives", people who are not born again but do possess a moral compass and have a conscience. People who just like us are sick of the depravity, the complete lawlessness, all that America has become and so voted for Trump. People who for the most part, share the same morals and values that we do save for one thing... They either don't believe in Jesus Christ or are otherwise very mixed up believing that all roads lead to Heaven, that there are many paths to God, or that God doesn't exist but aliens do, etc. (How they are more inclined to believe that some superior race of aliens created all of humanity and don't consider that crazy and find it quite believable, but they do consider believing in God crazy... ... beyond me.)

    The point is though, that all of these people are now semi-awake and aware that what is happening on this planet right now goes beyond "us", beyond anything man is capable of, and because of that they are looking for answers. They know it is "other-worldly", what is happening. It is for us to tell them what God has already told us in His Word, the Bible; to point them to Jesus and God's Word. It's all spelled out so clearly in black and white and always has been. I believe that Jesus wants us to share, to shout TRUTH to all who will listen so that as many as possible will be saved and be spared the very "false answer" that is soon to come once the "savior" this world is looking for, the anti-Christ, appears on scene and is revealed.

    I do believe, like so many other's here, that civil war is coming. I hope we are not here for it, but we very well could be. There have been many wars, famines, so many horrific things that have happened throughout history. None of it "God's Wrath" though. Praise His Name that we WILL be gone BEFORE His Wrath is poured out. It doesn't mean though that we will be spared the coming civil war that really, has already started, here in America. And so we must put our faith in Him, and fight for Him, so that as few as possible will be here to experience His Wrath when it is unleashed.

    There are many whose hearts have already been hardened to the point to where I honestly don't think anything will move them. It makes me sick, the things I witness on a daily basis. An example, the day after the Berkeley riots, there were more riots in NYC at NYU. The same thing as at Berkeley, over some "speaker" who had things to say that the so called "ANTIFA anti-fascists" did not like.

    The fact that they call themselves "anti-facist", it just makes me want to laugh out loud and throw up all at the same time. Them calling themselves anti-Facist is like me calling myself a serial killer (just so ya know, I'm NOT, anything but, and that is my point).

    This riot wasn't as played up as much on MSM as the Berkeley riots were. There is one clip in particular, a "professor" at NYU I guess, not sure where at but she did say in between F bombs over and over again that she is a "professor". (Note to self: If these are the teachers and role models that exist at our nation's "colleges" and higher institutes of learning... my kids ARE NOT going to go to college.)

    This woman's name is Rebecca Goyette. I'll post a few links as to the incident and her but beware of foul language, as there is a lot of it. http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/0...rotests-erupt/

    And then this one: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02...-nazi-protest/

    And also, not going to post a link, but turns out this nasty, immoral, evil, disgusting woman, she is an "artist". The art that she makes is worse than pornography. It is sick and demented. It involves lots of sexual body parts being portrayed in nasty and disgusting ways, demeans men and their manhood, alongside pictured women with very large private parts. Women armed with stick pins, knives, stabbing the men, and really... don't understand a lot of it except that it is SICK and PERVERTED and this woman belongs in a padded cell somewhere, locked up forever, and key thrown away. Rebecca Goyette calls herself or her artwork or both, not sure, "ghost and then the B word". I looked at it as it was posted on another forum I go to that is not Christian but is Conservative (there are many Christians there though). Once I looked there was no unlooking. But I feel important, as this is what "antifa" is, and who the anti-Trump people are. This is who the liberal people are. I think Ashley Judd was talked about in this thread. Let's just say that this woman and her "artwork" make Nasty Ashley look like a saint. Again, not linking it but all one has to do is google "Rebecca Goyette".

    And just in case y'all don't know... "She's a professor y'all!" She definitely wants us to know that as she repeats it over and over while cursing out NYPD because they refused to arrest and beat up Gavin McInnes for daring to use his constitutional right of free speech.

    I don't know anything about Gavin, know not much about Milo. But do know that they have the same right to free speech that Rebecca Goyette and all the disillusioned and demented "anti-facist protestors" have. It's just that according to the libiots, one only has the right to free speech if what comes from one's mouth echo's the exact thoughts, opinions, and ideologies as theirs. If not, no free speech, shut up; or such is their opinion on how the Constitution is to be interpreted.

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    Wow Tiffany, I just saw the rant of that peaceful professor at your link. She is an excellent example of your unhinged liberal nutjobs. Ordering the cops to beat up the Conservatives peacefully gathered to hear another Conservative speak?! They are really possessed, they would have to be in order not to see themselves the way we do. I don't remember anyone acting like that when Obama was re-elected. Now unfortunately if this "woman" is really a professor you can see why many millennials act the way they do.. She is one of many "professionals" teaching these lies and how to protest to these kids.

    As a side note I would never talk to a police officer like that either. She wad lucky she wasnt arrested for disorderly conduct or pepper sprayed.

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    It feels almost like Trump did not win the election. He is only in his third week in office but already his hands have been tied by the courts to keep him from doing anything about immigration.

    Every day the mainstream media criticizes and ridicules him. They don't show him the respect that was shown to his predecessors.

    I've never seen a president treated like this before.

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    I find it highly ironic that a bunch of people who remain willfully ignorant about the US election process are running around lecturing the rest of us on the constitutionality of his executive orders.

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    It's maddening...and insane
    Trump must feel as though he is spitting into the wind. Everything he does,signs,says is scrutinized and then protested or overturned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amazin Grace View Post
    It's maddening...and insane
    Trump must feel as though he is spitting into the wind. Everything he does,signs,says is scrutinized and then protested or overturned!
    I think you underestimate him. He has dealt with crooked politicians and businessmen, and with intractable bureaucracies (some who want their palms greased) all his life. He spent four years researching this job before running for office. I suspect that at the end of most days he sits back and says "well, today went just about like I expected it to go"

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