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    Stock Market Crash in 2017 and how it may pertain to Prophesy?

    There are many news articles saying we are headed for a crash due to the over value of stocks. They say 80% of the US stocks are overvalued. Warren Buffett is holding onto his money which is a big indicator that he may be waiting for a market reset before purchasing more stock. In my industry we are seeing the same signs as before 2008. Mortgage companies are pushing loans for unqualified borrowers and over inflating the prices of the loans to refinance properties. I guess we didn't learn our lesson.

    http://fortune.com/2017/03/09/stock-market-sell-bubble/

    http://www.ibtimes.com/

    http://thesovereigninvestor.com/excl...trike-in-2016/

    My questions is how this may pertain to prophesy. I have often wondered why the US is not mentioned in the end times. Could an economic collapse be why? Could the rapture push the US over the edge?

    My thoughts have always been that the US collapsing would cause a world crisis which would be a great reason for a man to come onto the scene that has all the answers.

    My only confusion is in Matthew 24: 38-44 "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."

    Wouldn't the rapture of the church need to happen before the collapse? If it happens after then everyone would be at church looking and it wouldn't be business as usual like Matthew 24 suggests. Or does the demise of the US even matter when it comes to Prophesy?

    I would really like some thoughts on this. I have discussions with people all the time and really don't know.

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    It would be great if the rapture happened before a crash but there's just no telling. One thing to consider is that many in 2008 weren't affected nearly as much as those who went through the depression.
    I think that even if the market crashed there would still be people buying and selling (probably more selling than buying) and people will still get married.

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    Rapture actually might catapult it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorrowedTime View Post
    Rapture actually might catapult it.
    It probably would. A large disappearance would cause a panic and any type of panic affects the markets.

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    Matt 24 refers to the 2nd coming....

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    It would be great if the rapture happened before a crash but there's just no telling. One thing to consider is that many in 2008 weren't affected nearly as much as those who went through the depression.
    I think that even if the market crashed there would still be people buying and selling (probably more selling than buying) and people will still get married.
    I tend to agree. We may go through severe economic hardship before and after the rapture.

    Side question - will there truly be a worldwide, catastrophic economic collapse during the 70th week? I'm aware there will be an event(s) that triggers a one-world economy, and I know there will be severe food shortages, but will there be an economic collapse like everyone describes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poc4dw View Post
    I tend to agree. We may go through severe economic hardship before and after the rapture.

    Side question - will there truly be a worldwide, catastrophic economic collapse during the 70th week? I'm aware there will be an event(s) that triggers a one-world economy, and I know there will be severe food shortages, but will there be an economic collapse like everyone describes?

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    There's going to have to be. The Beast system needs a way to get everyone on the same page in order to enforce buying and selling w/his image at the heart of it all.

    Without a global collapse countries would be able to resist it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorrowedTime View Post
    There's going to have to be. The Beast system needs a way to get everyone on the same page in order to enforce buying and selling w/his image at the heart of it all.

    Without a global collapse countries would be able to resist it.
    The thing is though, what if they won't resist it because they don't want to? Anything is possible if Godhas it go that way for His big plans. For the record, I think it's more likely that rapture happens before economic collapse globally but we could be mid-collapse in the U.S. It's just that though, only what I think not based on special knowledge from the Bible. But, if the global collapse started before rapture I could see countries eagerly choosing a single currency that will later be regulated through MOB. For example, look how the trendy nonsense of Bitcoin went gusto. The underground almost secretive nature of it, the fact it was tied to other trends, it bucked the "norm", and the value of the currency was dependent on the holders of it not backed by anything... all made it appealing. I could see something like that as a possibility globally if for no other reasons than the encroaching socialism worldwide and the fact that millenials may bandwagon anything that seems different than their parents and eco-friendly if it's all virtual/electronic money. I could see the environmentalists saying why keep printing and minting when we can do everything electronically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlessdMomUv5 View Post
    The thing is though, what if they won't resist it because they don't want to? Anything is possible if Godhas it go that way for His big plans. For the record, I think it's more likely that rapture happens before economic collapse globally but we could be mid-collapse in the U.S. It's just that though, only what I think not based on special knowledge from the Bible. But, if the global collapse started before rapture I could see countries eagerly choosing a single currency that will later be regulated through MOB. For example, look how the trendy nonsense of Bitcoin went gusto. The underground almost secretive nature of it, the fact it was tied to other trends, it bucked the "norm", and the value of the currency was dependent on the holders of it not backed by anything... all made it appealing. I could see something like that as a possibility globally if for no other reasons than the encroaching socialism worldwide and the fact that millenials may bandwagon anything that seems different than their parents and eco-friendly if it's all virtual/electronic money. I could see the environmentalists saying why keep printing and minting when we can do everything electronically.
    The third horseman to me implies a form of economic collapse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorrowedTime View Post
    The third horseman to me implies a form of economic collapse.
    That was my understanding too. In Revelation 6:5-6, the third horseman indicates famine and hyperinflation of food. If you can't provide food for your family, nothing else matters. No matter what happens to the US economy, rest assured, the A/C will "never let a serious crisis go to waste."

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    A lot of people have talked about the "retail apocalypse" that's been occurring these days, with stores like KMart, JC Penney, etc. closing. I see the signs of it everywhere, but am not sure sure if this will impact the economy very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poc4dw View Post
    A lot of people have talked about the "retail apocalypse" that's been occurring these days, with stores like KMart, JC Penney, etc. closing. I see the signs of it everywhere, but am not sure sure if this will impact the economy very much.

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    I like Sears, Kmart, JC penny, they are closing some stores in our area, but they have no business. Walmart and Target must be doing something better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by poc4dw View Post
    A lot of people have talked about the "retail apocalypse" that's been occurring these days, with stores like KMart, JC Penney, etc. closing. I see the signs of it everywhere, but am not sure sure if this will impact the economy very much.

    Diane
    All of these stores would be smart to really push online sales with deals like 'free shipping when you spend a certain amount' or 'buy two get one free'.
    I think people will always want to buy certain things in person but online shopping is the way to go.

    We live 1.5 hours away from any big-name departments, so I buy most food items from our local grocery store, but 80% of my other household purchases are online. We split the fee for Amazon prime between my in-laws and SIL. That $33 pays for itself within a month. Not only do we save on gas by not having to drive 1.5 hours away, but all the online shopping ensures our local UPS stays busy...which means more driving hours for Eric. 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koalie View Post
    All of these stores would be smart to really push online sales with deals like 'free shipping when you spend a certain amount' or 'buy two get one free'.
    I think people will always want to buy certain things in person but online shopping is the way to go.
    When the internet as we know it came to be, Sears, of all retail companies, was probably far and away in the best position to take advantage of that. Other companies had tried to mimic the Sears catalogue success, but weren't able to repeat the success that Sears had going. Instead, Sears Executives decide to end the era of the catalogue without replacing it with anything...

    Under Eddie Lampert, I don't think Sears/KMart has long to survive.

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    I think people will always want to buy certain things in person but online shopping is the way to go.
    Yep! Why go to the mall and spend $49.99 on shoes when I can get them on Wish.com for $2 free shipping? Sure, they take a month to arrive and I can't try them on first but when you're on a budget who cares?

    Walmart and Target must be doing something better.
    Yep. Discount is the way to go. Why pay $30 for a shirt at JC Penney when I can get it for $10 at Ross? I feel bad for these big businesses, but I don't think people can afford them anymore.

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    All the signs point to a soon rapture IMHO.

    I firmly believe the rapture will be the thing that triggers and exacerbates the collapse.

    We are told that we will be living in a time of business as usual (eating and drinking and giving in marriage) when Jesus returns for the church. It certainly will not be business as usual when the USA economy collapses. The entire world will be thrown into pandemonium and utter panic when the world's flag ship economy crashes and crashes hard.

    All the wars that we now find ourselves on the brink of entering will break out in mass as a means to distract the world's populations. This of course is found in Revelation chapter 6 and by then the bride is long gone.

    We are oh so close to our blessed hope church!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVBORN56 View Post
    All the signs point to a soon rapture IMHO.

    I firmly believe the rapture will be the thing that triggers and exacerbates the collapse.

    We are told that we will be living in a time of business as usual (eating and drinking and giving in marriage) when Jesus returns for the church. It certainly will not be business as usual when the USA economy collapses. The entire world will be thrown into pandemonium and utter panic when the world's flag ship economy crashes and crashes hard.

    All the wars that we now find ourselves on the brink of entering will break out in mass as a means to distract the world's populations. This of course is found in Revelation chapter 6 and by then the bride is long gone.

    We are oh so close to our blessed hope church!

    keep looking up!

    I am tracking right along with you. I have long held that the Rapture not only is "answered prayer" and "prophetically projected" but is also the cataclysmic event that triggers global chaos, the OWG, the OWR and the OWE... Yes indeed, keep looking up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVBORN56 View Post
    All the signs point to a soon rapture IMHO.

    I firmly believe the rapture will be the thing that triggers and exacerbates the collapse.

    We are told that we will be living in a time of business as usual (eating and drinking and giving in marriage) when Jesus returns for the church. It certainly will not be business as usual when the USA economy collapses. The entire world will be thrown into pandemonium and utter panic when the world's flag ship economy crashes and crashes hard.

    All the wars that we now find ourselves on the brink of entering will break out in mass as a means to distract the world's populations. This of course is found in Revelation chapter 6 and by then the bride is long gone.

    We are oh so close to our blessed hope church!

    keep looking up!
    Well, I'm ready!!! I can't take anymore evil! Some days I think we are seriously on the edge and other days
    it seems like it could be years longer. Im still praying for today!!!
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    This is a common repeat every year by statement that the stock will crash.....blahhhh

    I am tired of heard same message from past till today....honest to make me burn out and sleepy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonTiger View Post
    This is a common repeat every year by statement that the stock will crash.....blahhhh

    I am tired of heard same message from past till today....honest to make me burn out and sleepy.


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    I was going to say the same exact thing; same story different year!

    As for Walmart taking over retail...yes. There are two types of customers...those willing to buy high end (clothes/stuff) or the complete opposite. Here in Tennessee, I see a trend of sloppiness in dress and appearance...t-shirts, yoga pants, etc and same goes for my hometown Massachusetts. Why pay for high end yoga pants when you can buy an $8 pair at Walmart. Our K-Marts are closing their doors.

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