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    Default The Boy Scouts are gone

    The Boy Scouts I was a part of are no more.

    And the dismantling of the Republic continues at a merry pace.

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    And the Girl Scouts have become a bastion of liberal thought. Liberals took ownership of the National Organization and then practically overnight transformed it in their image. I was both a Cub Scout Den and a Girl Scout Troop leader for years and years.
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    Look for Trail Life USA for boys, and American Heritage Girls, for girls.

    I imagine Trail Life USA will get even more folks who don't want the changes the BSA is making. Many who are already at TL used to be in BSA programs. I also know TL is strict with only allowing men to lead the older boys, women leaders are ok for grade-school age boys, but not the older boys.

    I guess this news shouldn't come as a surprise, but I was surprised at the speed at which it came.

    Oh, and the BSA fee increases have been steady and steep during the last decade, so I suspect the BSA is hurting financially because of past decisions. They would never admit such. Too bad they can't see they are shooting themselves, not in the foot, but in the main artery!
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    When I was a little girl I wanted to join the Girl Scouts because some of my friends were in it. I grew up in a Christian household and my parents would not let me join because the Scouts are not a Christian based organization. I am now in the my 50's and I am so thankful for the spiritual guidance I had from my parents. They were absolutely correct to be wary of this organization because they are on a slippery slope towards a liberal view point.

    I feel bad for young Christian families because it is very difficult to protect your children from the liberal and sinful views that are so prevalent today. Parents must always be on guard from what there kids hear in school, on TV, and the internet, and now they have to worry about what their little ones are exposed to in the Boy or Girl Scouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fl2007rn View Post
    When I was a little girl I wanted to join the Girl Scouts because some of my friends were in it. I grew up in a Christian household and my parents would not let me join because the Scouts are not a Christian based organization. I am now in the my 50's and I am so thankful for the spiritual guidance I had from my parents. They were absolutely correct to be wary of this organization because they are on a slippery slope towards a liberal view point.

    I feel bad for young Christian families because it is very difficult to protect your children from the liberal and sinful views that are so prevalent today. Parents must always be on guard from what there kids hear in school, on TV, and the internet, and now they have to worry about what their little ones are exposed to in the Boy or Girl Scouts.
    I struggled with this too. But, knowing my girls are left to socialize and be in this world for now, I chose to become the Girl Scout Leader. I don’t do the GS pledge with our troop, we don’t use the GS guidelines about personal matters (like “women’s health”) instead I teach the girls practical old school “homesteading” type skills like sewing and cooking and shopping on a budget, and I read the stories of girl heroes in the Bible. And camping admiring God’s handiwork. And we do community service. Send boxes for Operation Christmas Child through Samaritan’s Purse etc. I’m fortunate because so far I haven’t had my chops busted for sharing my faith with the girls; one advantage of the bit backwards traditional state of Missouri The GS is not ideal but at least I can monitor what they’re exposed to socially and the adult role models they interact with.
    That said, the BSA wanting to let girls join is sad and just a liberal, gender confusion sign of our times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Look for Trail Life USA for boys, and American Heritage Girls, for girls.

    I imagine Trail Life USA will get even more folks who don't want the changes the BSA is making. Many who are already at TL used to be in BSA programs. I also know TL is strict with only allowing men to lead the older boys, women leaders are ok for grade-school age boys, but not the older boys.

    I guess this news shouldn't come as a surprise, but I was surprised at the speed at which it came.

    Oh, and the BSA fee increases have been steady and steep during the last decade, so I suspect the BSA is hurting financially because of past decisions. They would never admit such. Too bad they can't see they are shooting themselves, not in the foot, but in the main artery!
    Truth!! We don’t have TL near enough to us to be practical
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlessdMomUv5 View Post
    I struggled with this too. But, knowing my girls are left to socialize and be in this world for now, I chose to become the Girl Scout Leader. I don’t do the GS pledge with our troop, we don’t use the GS guidelines about personal matters (like “women’s health”) instead I teach the girls practical old school “homesteading” type skills like sewing and cooking and shopping on a budget, and I read the stories of girl heroes in the Bible. And camping admiring God’s handiwork. And we do community service. Send boxes for Operation Christmas Child through Samaritan’s Purse etc. I’m fortunate because so far I haven’t had my chops busted for sharing my faith with the girls; one advantage of the bit backwards traditional state of Missouri The GS is not ideal but at least I can monitor what they’re exposed to socially and the adult role models they interact with.
    That said, the BSA wanting to let girls join is sad and just a liberal, gender confusion sign of our times
    That is so awesome you are able to influence the girls with your Christian values! I am sure my parents would have let me join the Girl Scouts in the 1960's if I had a Scout leader like you. The Lord has put you in that position so you can teach and to lead the girls in the right direction. Hats off to you and keep up the good work!

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    Here's how liberals killed the Boy Scouts (and everything else they loathe):

    1. Identify a beloved institution
    2. Kill it
    3. Gut it
    4. Wear its corpse as a skin suit
    5. Demand respect

    Thus endeth the lesson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fl2007rn View Post
    That is so awesome you are able to influence the girls with your Christian values! I am sure my parents would have let me join the Girl Scouts in the 1960's if I had a Scout leader like you. The Lord has put you in that position so you can teach and to lead the girls in the right direction. Hats off to you and keep up the good work!
    May God bless you, Blessedmomuv5 for your faithfulness to God in filling the role of GSA leader in such a wonderful way. You are like a breath of fresh air in a dark and stumbling world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn View Post
    May God bless you, Blessedmomuv5 for your faithfulness to God in filling the role of GSA leader in such a wonderful way. You are like a breath of fresh air in a dark and stumbling world.

    I agree, Lynn!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fl2007rn View Post
    When I was a little girl I wanted to join the Girl Scouts because some of my friends were in it. I grew up in a Christian household and my parents would not let me join because the Scouts are not a Christian based organization. I am now in the my 50's and I am so thankful for the spiritual guidance I had from my parents. They were absolutely correct to be wary of this organization because they are on a slippery slope towards a liberal view point.

    I feel bad for young Christian families because it is very difficult to protect your children from the liberal and sinful views that are so prevalent today. Parents must always be on guard from what there kids hear in school, on TV, and the internet, and now they have to worry about what their little ones are exposed to in the Boy or Girl Scouts.
    Yes, fl2007rn, it is such a blessing to have Christian parents! I tried Brownies but it just didn't click. Some years later my Mom took me to Pioneer Girls, which was totally awesome. It was like Girl Scouts, but better, because it was a Christian organization and it was more like Boy Scouts in some ways (pocket knives, camping, fires, smores, etc). I was even challenged to learn how to make a fire and light it using only 3 matches (of course it was rainy that day too). Lots of things for the 'tom-boy' in me! And most importantly, it was the leaders of the Pioneer Girls who taught me to pray to accept Jesus into my heart. Oh, wow, it just occurred to me that I can thank them once I get to heaven! We moved not too long after that, and I lost touch with them.

    I still have my books from Pioneer Girls, and now can see the solid foundation that it built - it didn't just teach the Bible, but it taught truths of who God is, who Jesus is, and who I am (as a pre-teen at the time that was totally what I needed!). Lots of scripture and how it applies to life. I found myself wishing I could find new copies of those books (they are like workbooks, and mine have been written in, so can't re-use) and re-use them for today's youth. Or re-write them to disciple new believers.

    I am so amazed at what God has done in my life!

    Oh, and BlessdMomUv5, maybe we should pray that a TL starts up near you!
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    I too was a Boy Scout. Sadly, they were lost some time ago due to their position on homosexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Yes, fl2007rn, it is such a blessing to have Christian parents! I tried Brownies but it just didn't click. Some years later my Mom took me to Pioneer Girls, which was totally awesome. It was like Girl Scouts, but better, because it was a Christian organization and it was more like Boy Scouts in some ways (pocket knives, camping, fires, smores, etc). I was even challenged to learn how to make a fire and light it using only 3 matches (of course it was rainy that day too). Lots of things for the 'tom-boy' in me! And most importantly, it was the leaders of the Pioneer Girls who taught me to pray to accept Jesus into my heart. Oh, wow, it just occurred to me that I can thank them once I get to heaven! We moved not too long after that, and I lost touch with them.

    I still have my books from Pioneer Girls, and now can see the solid foundation that it built - it didn't just teach the Bible, but it taught truths of who God is, who Jesus is, and who I am (as a pre-teen at the time that was totally what I needed!). Lots of scripture and how it applies to life. I found myself wishing I could find new copies of those books (they are like workbooks, and mine have been written in, so can't re-use) and re-use them for today's youth. Or re-write them to disciple new believers.

    I am so amazed at what God has done in my life!

    Oh, and BlessdMomUv5, maybe we should pray that a TL starts up near you!
    Thanks for all the kind words everyone. FF, I’m actually considering starting a new chapter of Trail Life/American Heritage Girls here. But I feel like the timing isn’t right yet. I prayed about it and I feel like I was told to stay put as a GS leader for now if I feel led to start an AHG in the future I’m planning to kidnap (not really) my girls from my troop
    Toots

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    “Why can’t girls join the Boy Scouts?”

    “Cause they are girls. “

    “Where does it say that directly that they can’t?”

    “In the title “Boy Scout”. Being a boy is heavily implicated”

    -Ben Shapiro talking to a transgender apologist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Timbers View Post
    And the Girl Scouts have become a bastion of liberal thought. Liberals took ownership of the National Organization and then practically overnight transformed it in their image. I was both a Cub Scout Den and a Girl Scout Troop leader for years and years.
    Quote Originally Posted by respicefinem View Post
    I too was a Boy Scout. Sadly, they were lost some time ago due to their position on homosexuality.


    Girl Scouts with your male who identifies as female troop leader or the Boy Scouts with your homosexual troop leader. Pick your poison. You shouldn't in good conscience put your kids in either of them these days. It's all gone to rot.

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    Former Boy Scout, OA member, and father to two beautiful daughters here. Im just sitting here wondering what I would say to my daughter if she came to me and asked me if she can join Boy Scouts. Not that it would ever happen. I'd like to know how many girls out there want to join boy scouts or if this is all coming from their parents desires. I see it all the time in youth sports....my guess is it's the parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreed3 View Post
    Former Boy Scout, OA member, and father to two beautiful daughters here. Im just sitting here wondering what I would say to my daughter if she came to me and asked me if she can join Boy Scouts. Not that it would ever happen. I'd like to know how many girls out there want to join boy scouts or if this is all coming from their parents desires. I see it all the time in youth sports....my guess is it's the parents.
    I am a woman, but when I was young I wanted to join the Boy Scouts. I simply enjoyed doing boy things. Riding bikes and playing cowboys and indians, playing in mud, camping, etc. Not sure why. My father died when I was 9, so perhaps he was influencing me but I did not know it? Perhaps there are hormonal reasons caused by food impurities? Perhaps our enemy plays a role. Maybe what i learned from society and public school? Perhaps I was born this way. But i think we should be careful to not always blame the parents. To this day I think and act more comfortable around men. Which sometimes is not a good Christian witness (i am careful to not be too friendly with married men especially) and got me in trouble in my young adult years when I was not following God's commands.
    "Therefore my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I am a woman, but when I was young I wanted to join the Boy Scouts. I simply enjoyed doing boy things. Riding bikes and playing cowboys and indians, playing in mud, camping, etc. Not sure why. My father died when I was 9, so perhaps he was influencing me but I did not know it? Perhaps there are hormonal reasons caused by food impurities? Perhaps our enemy plays a role. Maybe what i learned from society and public school? Perhaps I was born this way. But i think we should be careful to not always blame the parents. To this day I think and act more comfortable around men. Which sometimes is not a good Christian witness (i am careful to not be too friendly with married men especially) and got me in trouble in my young adult years when I was not following God's commands.
    The parents have a moral responsibility to prevent this stuff from going beyond a certain limit. It is fine for children to run and play, but encouraging a mix of the sexes beyond that just leads to stuff like this. You can run, jump, play in the mud, camp, ride bikes. There is nothing about that which is limited to men. But do it in the Girl Scouts. If they don't do it, then do it on your own. Giving a pass to parents or having an even partial toleration for a mix just builds and builds and eventually small compromises lead to the whole thing giving way.

    It is like this 'transgender' stuff. According to liberals, men are naturally rapists, but if the man says he is a woman he can use the same restroom as a little girl. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I am a woman, but when I was young I wanted to join the Boy Scouts. I simply enjoyed doing boy things. Riding bikes and playing cowboys and indians, playing in mud, camping, etc. Not sure why. My father died when I was 9, so perhaps he was influencing me but I did not know it? Perhaps there are hormonal reasons caused by food impurities? Perhaps our enemy plays a role. Maybe what i learned from society and public school? Perhaps I was born this way. But i think we should be careful to not always blame the parents. To this day I think and act more comfortable around men. Which sometimes is not a good Christian witness (i am careful to not be too friendly with married men especially) and got me in trouble in my young adult years when I was not following God's commands.
    My daughter is Tom boyish. She likes sports and gets along easier with boys.

    But guys should have guy time and girls girl time. I wouldn’t be objected to girls scouts having no archery and Eagle Scouts kinda branch.

    But with this world when we have Boy Scouts and let whomever join a lot of perversions start to creep in.

    Plus ultimately the world is demasculating men and overly masculating girls. It’s clearly heading to an androgynous direction.
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