May 28th, 2007, 06:14 AM
How Pentecostalism mimics Hindu Kundalini
There is an EXACT correlation between:
All Pentecostal/Charismatic churches today
The Serpent Power of the Awakening Kundalini
Sathya Sai gurus
Subud worship manifestations
Qigong healing manifestations
African Kung Bushmen of the Kalahari
Last edited by Christy; May 28th, 2007 at 06:43 AM.
May 28th, 2007, 07:23 AM
This site also teaches that the Rapture and premillenialism are false.
Originally Posted by Christy
I attended a AOG church for a year. I agree there are issues within the denomination and I decided it was not for me.
I must say 2/3 of the things on this list never happened at the church I attended, while I was there.
I was raised baptist "revival like meeting" were a good thing at that time.
Someone tried the "holy laughter" thing once, it was immediately stopped by the pastor.
May 28th, 2007, 07:29 AM
I'm sorry, I didn't look at this section of the website. I have heard on several occasions though that Pentecostalism to varying degrees does mimic Kundalini, and being from a pentecostal church (ex member), I saw a few of these things occuring. I can however look for a more welcome site and replace it with the existing one, or the moderators can replace it with a more acceptable website.
Originally Posted by Mikros Pas
Perhaps the moderators would like to replace the existing URL stated in my original post with the following website to make it more palatable?
Last edited by Christy; May 28th, 2007 at 08:34 AM.
May 29th, 2007, 08:06 AM
I had a friend of my son's mother try to get me to try out Kundalini yoga. Said it was a great powerful release blah blah b;ah....this was after I told her I was a Christian......after she sent an email linking to some "Christian Yoga" that was then linked to new age gobbldy gook, I never heard from her again.
May 29th, 2007, 11:29 AM
But, this yoga is being filtered into our mainstream churches today.. not just the Pentecostal denominations. I believe in a lot of what they have within this church... I loved my AOG in Yorktown, VA. Pastor Holland taught the Word of God... he's the one that taught on the End Times... held off for 20 years cause he thought he would be send as date setting.
I know during the "Brownville Revival" the church went down there. After the visit.. they started to impliment some of the things they performed at Brownville... that's when he lost half of his flock. I had left prior to this... to another AOG church.
I do believe one can speak in tongues... but they better have a intrepreter there, if not then ignore them. I don't believe the entire congregation speaks at once during praise and worship... cause we are told that we need an intrepreter present if in public. That's the only downfall I saw at my church. I don't believe in praying over someone and the person praying breaks out in speaking in tongues.... again there better be an intrepreter there.
Yoga is NOT Christian.. but like I said many of our mainstream denominations are turning to it as well as praying in the labyrinth method. NOT OF GOD, in my humble opinion.
May 31st, 2007, 03:18 PM
why is it an indictment on a group that a different group does similar things??
Did you know that the Paganism that Constantine grew up following is almost 100% identical to 3rd Century Christianity??
Did you know that there were dozens of men who were said to be born of virgins, had 12 followers, and were killed unjustly by the government, only to rise again in the centuries before Jesus???
I don't think there is one thing in Christianity, any version, that is exclusive to Christianity... if it is all about ripping on people for thier similarities to false religions, than we are all wrong all the time.
also, that list is INCREDIBLY biased and most of it isn't even true of Pentecostals (or is quite Biblical)
May 31st, 2007, 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by larry_boy_44
Can you back that up with some facts?
May 31st, 2007, 03:39 PM
similarities between Jesus and Hindu's Krishna:
as for more.... I'll have to look it up and see if I still have anything left of it in my notes from College... We read a historian's quote describing someone, and when we read it, everyone said "This is Jesus"... only it wasn't, it was someone else...
people claimed to be "Messiahs" and "God-men" and "Son of God" all the time in the ancient world...
Also, I want to say that Rameses' (I think) story is somewhat similar to Christ's other then the cross part (although he died and rose again, too)...
NOTE: none of this means anything bad about Christianity or falsifies one word of the Bible or shows that what Christ did didn't happen... it just means that its been faked/copied/mimmicked through history...
May 31st, 2007, 04:46 PM
larry_boy_44 take a look at their statement of beliefs on that web site. It speaks volumes.
"We are a multi-faith group. As of 2006-JAN, we consist of one Atheist, Agnostic, Christian, Wiccan and Zen Buddhist. "
May 31st, 2007, 05:25 PM
see... but the wierd thing is this...
Originally Posted by CountryBumpkin
why attack certain groups of Christians? What point does that make?
You'd think a multi-faith group wouldn't attack certain groups or certain faiths, especially not in the way that they are attacking Pentecostalism there...
June 1st, 2007, 07:16 AM
I agree with larry boy-this is a blatent attack on fellow Christians-if you have a problem with something in the Pentecostal church=please, by all means share scripture-but for goodness sake. Pentecostal churches believe in salvation by the shed Blood of Jesus Christ-at least the AoG does.
June 2nd, 2007, 02:20 AM
In lieu of the above post, can someone please give me the appropriate scripture for "being slain in the spirit"? Besides that, can someone tell me how tongues are still appropriate for today and how come they aren't understood by any non-christians (unbelievers), as they're supposed to be an earthly languages as stated in the Book of Acts.
June 2nd, 2007, 02:28 AM
please show me where the Bible gives the complete list of ways God can move through people...
Originally Posted by Christy
and the only time anyone understood what was being said in tongues was Acts 2, the other times it wasn't understood by the crowds (or at least it was never stated as such)... Paul also speaks of tongues and says not to do it in church meetings because the unbelievers will think you are crazy (because they won't understand)...
June 2nd, 2007, 05:55 AM
Being "slain in the spirit" is a human term for being overcome by the power of God-and yes, it happened in scripture. Daniel, Paul, and the priests in the OT-are a few examples-then we have the soldiers who came to arrest Jesus. I believe that some people react this way to His power-it is just our flesh reacting-it is neither good nor bad-not a sign of spirituality. It is real, however.
Originally Posted by Christy
Acts does not state that tongues are "supposed to be an eartly language" although, they sometimes are...but you will find Paul stating that "he who speaks in a tongue, does not speak to man, but to God...INDEED NO ONE UNDERSTANDS.
June 2nd, 2007, 06:59 AM
In the book of Acts "speaking in tongues" seem to be a manifestation of the baptism of the Holy Ghost. All that received this baptism (baptism of fire) spoke in tongues and glorified God. Th the churches Paul cautions the use of the gift of tongues (this is a separate thing from that of Acts) if there is not an interpreter present.
The beginning of this thread, equating Pentecostal churches with Eastern religions, is absurd to say the least.
June 2nd, 2007, 07:33 AM
Yes, there are fringe groups of pentecostalism. My dear friend had to deal with snake charmers and fortune tellers at the penticostal church she grew up in. This is not mainstream, though. I've never seen it in the 15 years I attended penticostal churches.
June 2nd, 2007, 04:31 PM
I disagree. The times that it happened in scripture could have been when they were overcome by awe and fear or by the power of God. Please note that there were no people that caused this falling, there was no laying on of hands so to say that it is the same is stretching it. What you see happening today is not the same and one should run from these types of manifestations.
Originally Posted by firstlove
When Jesus laid hands on people they did not fall. When Jesus breathed on His diciples and said "Recieve the Holy Spirit" they did not fall. Just because these signs are occurring today does not mean that God is behind them. We need to be very discerning nowadays because:
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
June 2nd, 2007, 07:43 PM
Originally Posted by Leialoha