Humor me...
Ok.
You have $2K at your disposal. You want to make some preps- just in case. NOT INCLUDING food or firearms, what do you pick up that you may not have access to buy later?
a welder? a grill? tools? Pick 5 things guys (or survival and family-minded ladies lurking...).
BTW- think in terms of practicality, not necessarily survival.
First aid supplies. Things like one emergency backpack per family member ready to go, with an emergency blanket, food rations, water, matches, flashlights, toilet paper, etc. And one big one for the car.
A generator, a stove that doesn't require gas or electricity to work. A wood stove would be great, so you can cook on it and keep your house warm.
That's what I'm talking about...keep it coming.Originally Posted by NewWorldOrder
Here's my list:
Gasoline (you'd need cans to store it in)
Extra Clothing, especially coats, hats, and mittens
AM/FM/Shortwave radio
Batteries
Flashlight
Conceivably, that 2K could get spent quickly when preparing.
Camping Czar
Water purifying items (tablets, pitchers, straws) depending on where you live.
Flint
A couple of good knives with sharpening stones (if your in an area where you can hunt)
A crank radio and one of those shaker flashlights.
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Moist Owlet
Metal Detector.
Lots of Batteries (various sizes). Solar Recharger.
The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.
(Psa 19:1b-2)
We got flashlights and radios that don't need batteries already.
A cook stove fireplace sounds like a good idea.
planning for getting left behind, huh...
just curious...what would you need a metal detector for, hoot?
No way man! I'm thinking more like no access to cash- bank holidays and such. I've got all kinds of stuff for "camping"- we've been campers as long as I've been alive. I'm talking practical items in a pinch, not survival.
Say my trailer cracks, I might need a welder. Maybe we lose power for a week or two- a generator, a good grill, etc. Things like that.
I was going to list a generator but I think that since it will not last any longer than your gas supply it really won't be all that important in the long run for a true end times type disaster.
1 - One of those battery free flashlight radio combos with the LED bulbs that never fail. This would give you the ability to recieve emergency communications if enough of the government is left to transmit them and a never ending source of light. In fact those battery free LED lights are getting cheap enough that I would get several of them in case I broke or lost one.
2 - First aid supplies concentrating on things that could be critical first like a realy good wound disinfectant and some cheap but plentiful bandage material. The list would also include, if possible, several courses of antibiotics. Just think what could save your life and may not be available if a real disaster befals you.
3 - Weapons and ammo. If a true end times level disaster happens there will be people willing to kill you and your family for as little as a half rotten can of cat food. Plus you will eventually need to hunt if the disaster lasts long enough.
4 - Water and water purification chemicals. Fresh water for the short term and the chemicals for long term usage.
5 - survival food. Things like freeze dried meats and vegetables and shelf stable packaged foods. While you may be able to get by for a short time on what is in your fridge and freezer that won't last for long.
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Moist Owlet
Finding buried caches of stuff.
If you wanted to hide something where absolutely no one else could find it, what would you do?
The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.
(Psa 19:1b-2)
I was puzzled too, but now I am crystal clear!
Here in the midwest, I wouldn't know where to go, someone owns every bit of land here it is so fertile. Back in AZ, the possibilities are endless because the vast majority (80%???) of land is public land. I can reflect on places I have been where if one were to not wanting to be found, one could easily accomplish the task. I would imagine the same for NV, ND, SD, ID, WY, etc. and so on. The weather is a bit more manageable in AZ and NV though, in winter.
Fun to imagine.
ok. no guns or food.
How about ammunition...lots and lots of ammunition. lol
But really.
Got to be able to provide for the basic necessities.
1. Water filtration of some type...probably the camping variety water purifier that you can use for lakes, streams, etc.
2. Shelter of some type. Tarps/canvass material/ropes/tents/etc.
3. Heating/cooking. The idea of a wood stove is good. You can heat during the winter and cook year round.
4. Medications/bandages first aid
5. Trade goods. Anything that can be traded/bartered for needed supplies. Large quantities in small packaging.
1) xbox 360 with halo 3
2) decent tv
3) generator
4) 4 controllers
5) gas to fill the gennie
Just a note of warning. It's not safe to store large amounts of gasoline. Especially if you live in a warm climate. The fumes are very volatile. Much easier and safer to store Diesle fuel. So if buying a generator, diesle powered is the way to go.
We have been without power for as long as 2 weeks. We were fine with our generator, but only ran it for a couple of hours a day. Mainly to run the pump on our well, and to have hot water for showers. Ate a lot of canned food and cooked on the grill. Too hot outside to use the wood stove for cooking. We had lots of diesle fuel, as Dh always keeps the tractor and our big dump truck's diesle fuel tanks filled. That's how we store our diesle fuel. In the tanks of the big equipment. The dump truck holds about 60 gallons, I think? It did require siphoning to get it out though. But even with diesle you need a well ventilated area to store it in. LOL! We have a big propane tank now and Dh is looking into buying a generator that could be hooked up to that.
Also, I think we're going to get a hand pump for our well. Just in case, so we won't have to use the generator to pump water the next time.
If I was starting out fresh here is what I would pick.
1. Big Berky for water purification.
2. A very good tent.
3. Means to prepare food without power or gas, be it grill or wood stove.
4. Means to chop wood
5. See below.
You said no food or guns, and both would usually have been in the top 5. I guess I would go with either heirloom garden seeds, maybe some small game traps or gold coins. True I might be able to get the coins later, but with them I can more easily get other needed items.
Moist Owlet
THat is a good point. Deisel (or Kerosene) contains more energy gallon-for-gallon than does Gasoline, and it is far less likely to blow up unexpectedly.Just a note of warning. It's not safe to store large amounts of gasoline. Especially if you live in a warm climate. The fumes are very volatile. Much easier and safer to store Diesle fuel. So if buying a generator, diesle powered is the way to go.
The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.
(Psa 19:1b-2)
Do you own a bicycle? I've been thinking of picking one of those up soon.
I chuckled at this, at first, because I was born and raised in the Phoenix, AZ suburbs and have survived the many 115+ degree days (once it reached 126 at my house) and we never worried about gas storage. We always had it in shade, but that was it. I used to store it in sheds and garages where it would easily surpass 130 degrees. You'd think we would have had problems with spontaneous explosions, but I've never heard of any.
Anyway...this keeps getting back to SURVIVAL instead of PRACTICAL, although sometimes the lines are blurred.
Try this: You know that there will be a period of no access to purchases, no selling at all, everything shuts down for let's say 90 days. Food: most of us can survive 90 days on just what we have in our pantries. We'd emaciate a little, but we'd live. Water is working somehow. You have some weapons just in case. You have some first aid, including old shirts and duct tape.
Here's what I have come up with so far:
Generator
Various tools (mechanic and implements)
A good grill (might need to cook outdoors a lot)
Welder
Cultivator (ground prep)
Firepit (warmth) or wood burner
Does that help? We may have different ideas, I live rural, some live in the city...what practical or convenience items would you want that you don't currently have, that you may not normally buy?
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