Does anyone here have some information about Watchman Nee? Particularly his book, "The Spiritual Man".. I appreciate any input... I have done a thread search and could not come up with anything.. Thank you
Watchman Nee??
Does anyone here have some information about Watchman Nee? Particularly his book, "The Spiritual Man".. I appreciate any input... I have done a thread search and could not come up with anything.. Thank you
The warm and fuzzy Mod
Search for "The Local Church"Originally Posted by BLESSED BEYOND BELIEF
Does anyone here have some information about Watchman Nee? Particularly his book, "The Spiritual Man".. I appreciate any input... I have done a thread search and could not come up with anything.. Thank you
"Witness Lee" will work too.
This was the "contemplative spirituality/prayer" stuff before it hit the mainstream. I will look for some stuff for you. If you have been invited to a meeting, don't go. It has no leader/teacher. In short it is a chicken with it's head removed. I had friends who were so into it who now no longer walk with Jesus. It's big on hype and a big "zero" on substance.
The warm and fuzzy Mod
Here is a pretty detailed article
http://www.thebereans.net/prof-cor.shtml
Lookin' Up
This link focuses all but the first few sentances on Witness Lee. From everything i have been told Lee is a heretic and his literature is very different from Watchman Nee's. That being said, I haven't read much of Watchman Nee and wouldn't be supprised if there is stuff of his that is off (since the ppl who introduced me to him were also into richard foster and other mystics.)
PreTrib Rapture Czar
Witness Lee is not Watchman Nee
Nee books are not heretical but are misapplied by new agers and mystics
Revelation 22:17a The Spirit and Bride are now saying, "Come!" The ones who hear are now saying, "Come!" The ones who thirst are now saying, "Come!" Come LORD Jesus !
Buzzardhut.net |The Watch Parables | The Rapture | Romans | The Virgin Mary
Never Heard of Jesus? | The Evidence Bible | Tent Meeting
Lookin' Up
I will also add that the Berean Call hasn't posted anything against Watchman Nee yet, but they may not be familiar with what he teaches either.
The warm and fuzzy Mod
From all I have read the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Mentor and pupil same tree.
..hasn't lost his marbles
Don't the terms "Watchman" and "Witness" usually apply to people that belong to Jehovah's Witnesses? Is there some correlation here?
I guess I just don't understand what the significance is of using watchman and witness in front of their names. Maybe it's just a small thing, but it keeps popping into my head every time I hear about them.
PreTrib Rapture Czar
Nees books have been abused by Lee, purpose driven, and charismaniacs
Nee is not alive to defend himself
Watchman Nee became a Christian in mainland China in 1920 at the age of seventeen and began writing in the same year. Throughout the nearly thirty years of his ministry, Watchman Nee was clearly manifested as a unique gift from the Lord to His Body for His move in this age. In 1952 he was imprisoned for his faith; he remained in prison until his death in 1972. His words remain an abundant source of spiritual revelation and supply to Christians throughout the world.
Revelation 22:17a The Spirit and Bride are now saying, "Come!" The ones who hear are now saying, "Come!" The ones who thirst are now saying, "Come!" Come LORD Jesus !
Buzzardhut.net |The Watch Parables | The Rapture | Romans | The Virgin Mary
Never Heard of Jesus? | The Evidence Bible | Tent Meeting
Thank you for the information.. I do appreciate it. I think I might read 'the Spiritual Man'.
PreTrib Rapture Czar
It's a interesting book, just take it as it is.
Nee approaches Christianity from an Eastern perspective which can be good but has mostly been misunderstood by his followers.
Christianity is universal but leans towards western thought (to the Jew first and also to the Greek, (and Romans))
There is a fine line between soulism, soulishness, and mysticism.
I think this phenomenon is where the charismatics are easily misled.
The latent power of the soul is under the curse of sin, as well as the flesh, and cannot be trusted.
Only the Holy Spirit's leading within us can be trusted.
Revelation 22:17a The Spirit and Bride are now saying, "Come!" The ones who hear are now saying, "Come!" The ones who thirst are now saying, "Come!" Come LORD Jesus !
Buzzardhut.net |The Watch Parables | The Rapture | Romans | The Virgin Mary
Never Heard of Jesus? | The Evidence Bible | Tent Meeting
Having spent some time in that Church I can tell you %100 that they have nothing to do with Jehova's Witnesses.Don't the terms "Watchman" and "Witness" usually apply to people that belong to Jehovah's Witnesses? Is there some correlation here?
I guess I just don't understand what the significance is of using watchman and witness in front of their names. Maybe it's just a small thing, but it keeps popping into my head every time I hear about them.
The warm and fuzzy Mod
Thanks for that Buzz, my mistake, I focused more on this current incarnation of the "local church". The people I have known in the movement use lee and nee interchangeably.
PreTrib Rapture Czar
"Witness Lee and the local church" is a cult
Revelation 22:17a The Spirit and Bride are now saying, "Come!" The ones who hear are now saying, "Come!" The ones who thirst are now saying, "Come!" Come LORD Jesus !
Buzzardhut.net |The Watch Parables | The Rapture | Romans | The Virgin Mary
Never Heard of Jesus? | The Evidence Bible | Tent Meeting
The warm and fuzzy Mod
Bless Beyond Belief, If you go to the thread starter there is a article by Pastor Bob Dewaay titled: How pietism deceives Christians. He mentions Watchman Nee in the article. The article was posted by Sing4him. I had a folder on Watchman Nee many years ago and could not locate it to help you. Sorry.
I didn't know that but if that is the case I'm thankful the Lord took me out of there when He did. That's where I began my Chrisitan walk but I only stayed for a short time.
Besides other personal reasons, I left because there was some pretty un-Christian stuff going on at the time over some publications with Living Stream Ministries. It seemed to be about $$$ and it was causing division so I hightailed it out of there. One thing I did find to be kind of cooky was when I went to their church in Ohio for a conference and they had these brother/sister houses for the single people and it seemed that they had no community involvement. I was just a babe in Christ and had absolutely no discernment and still can't quite place my finger on all the things that were off in their teahings but I did have a sense that I wouldn't be able to live up to their way. I thought it was just me
I did gain a lot of understanding of the word studying Nee's Recovery Bible and still refer to my copy today as reference from time to time.
Watchman Nee is one of the greatest disciples of all time. His books contain the MEAT of christianity and contain such clarity when you ask the Holy Spirit to open your eyes.
His books were the first the Holy Spirit led me to read after my salvation.
THERE IS NOTHING HERETICAL ABOUT THE BOOKS. The issue is most Christians dont want to hear some things he mentions eg. about SUFFERING (myself included - I dont like to hear it) but the suffering of the saints is CORE in the gospel (Phil 3:2-10); but when people hear this, they say its heresy.
The defacto official source of Nee books is Christian Fellowship Publishers (google it).
Another example is the concepts he explains in The Spiritual Man and The Normal Christian Life. No man can talk about such things without experience. I also like the way He explained: `in Adam' and `in Christ' in the Normal Christian Life. His books have clear bible back up.
There may be a few errors here and there but i would think > 97-98% of what he preached are true.
Last edited by AngelicHost; October 20th, 2008 at 06:59 AM.
More info from Apologetics Index:
Watchman Nee
Witness Lee
Local Church
I have many of his books, but have not read all of them.
I found his book on The Latent Power of the Soul to be most interesting and instructive.
Like any Christian writer, we must test what is presented by the Word of God, and "Prove all things; hold fast that which is true" (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
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